Chinese Air Force

[randombully]

west pilot in china : do you really imagine they give all their knowledge? Don't you think some of them were trained to give wrong datas by secret services ?

That's a nice conspiracy, but na.
Retired western pilots are first hired by a aviation agency in south africa then that agency assigns them countries which happens to be just china,
It was a major humiliation for uk, when a pic came out of pilot landing after ejecting from a trainer jet in china and that pilot was retired RAF.

 

[Blademaster]

You forget 1991, against irak. USA (and some weak allies as France, with the sole exception of GB) smashed iraki forces in 48 hours, 10.000 km away of US mainland....
See the difference between the US mastery in 1991 and how russia is engulfed in ukraine...

China last "serious" fight was against the brother USSR.... so many time ag. They lack of real practice.

west pilot in china : do you really imagine they give all their knowledge? Don't you think some of them were trained to give wrong datas by secret services ?

Ha ha please. Ukraine was heavily supported by western nations and Russia did smash all the way to Kiev and overran 1/4 of Ukrainian territory, which was like 3 or 4 times the size of Kuwait. Iraq never received the level of support that Ukraine got or the real time intel that allowed Ukrainian troops to escape traps or lay down ambushes that would stall Russian advances.

Apples to oranges.

 

[BON PLAN]

Iraq was laughable state, their military was shit, their training was shit, their motivation was, majority surrendered to save their ass after few weeks of pounding.
While Russia did fuck up in ukraine in the start, but again for 3+years ukraine is constantly getting weapons from west, for example Russia destroys a air defense of ukraine, boom west provides another, ukraine would have also caved in few months if they didn't get constant resupply by west.
Along with having outdated but strong base doctrine and tactics and the use to asymmetric warfare all of which iraqi military lacked.
Ukraine war is much more comparable to Vietnam than to Iraq.

the russian fight a well known ennemy, fitted mainly with their own weapons, and just have to cross their border !
The easier war case scenario.

 

[BON PLAN]

Ha ha please. Ukraine was heavily supported by western nations and Russia did smash all the way to Kiev and overran 1/4 of Ukrainian territory, which was like 3 or 4 times the size of Kuwait. Iraq never received the level of support that Ukraine got or the real time intel that allowed Ukrainian troops to escape traps or lay down ambushes that would stall Russian advances.

Apples to oranges.

You may say what you want, but regarding China they have absolutely no war training.
They didn't knwo if their tactics are well, if their communication systmes are potent in high electronical jamming etc...
See the north korean soldiers in Ukraine : probably among the best troups they have to impress Putin (and USA) and see the result : stampede.

 

[randombully]

the russian fight a well known ennemy, fitted mainly with their own weapons, and just have to cross their border !
The easier war case scenario.

That has more to do with the capability US has of fighting halfway around the world.
But again if russia had Iraq under saddam on its border without any external support, even with initial shitty tactics they had they will still win in few months, tho the problem will arise after that with militants popping up.

 

[randombully]

You may say what you want, but regarding China they have absolutely no war training.
They didn't knwo if their tactics are well, if their communication systmes are potent in high electronical jamming etc...
See the north korean soldiers in Ukraine : probably among the best troups they have to impress Putin (and USA) and see the result : stampede.

if their communication systmes are potent in high electronical jamming etc...

About their communication system

View: https://youtu.be/wk03RJCTWq8?si=qxY7k2cTh7sHygHG

You may say what you want, but regarding China they have absolutely no war training.

They have been training and evolving for decades for Taiwan against US.
As for the experience, as said before US also does not have any experience in the type of war that will fought in South China Sea.

 

[Blademaster]

You may say what you want, but regarding China they have absolutely no war training.
They didn't knwo if their tactics are well, if their communication systmes are potent in high electronical jamming etc...
See the north korean soldiers in Ukraine : probably among the best troups they have to impress Putin (and USA) and see the result : stampede.

So do you. You say what you want to say with no basis in reality.

 

[rockdog]

Articles say the J36 canopy with 3.5m long.

 

[rockdog]

View: https://x.com/SinoTalk/status/1889022580990070785?t=hUiGJM2y-nGRS_EW9Os1Zg&s=19


View: https://x.com/Hurin92/status/1889178186941931805?t=-aDBtn7gxcPA3d8XYkpptg&s=19

 

[rockdog]

CGs of SAC J50

 

[randombully]

CGs of SAC J50

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Prototype airframe or TD?
Also what future tech you guys are planning to put in it for future 6th gen classification ?

 

[rockdog]

Prototype airframe or TD?
Also what future tech you guys are planning to put in it for future 6th gen classification ?

Just CGs by fans, some said the wings are foldable for navy, since SAC produced J15 and J35 for ACs.


View: https://x.com/Mack8miltech/status/1880644123746820239?t=pBy3aBc7CEC5AdO06aHp0w&s=19

 

[randombully]

Just CGs by fans, some said the wings are foldable for navy, since SAC produced J15 and J35 for ACs.


View: https://x.com/Mack8miltech/status/1880644123746820239?t=pBy3aBc7CEC5AdO06aHp0w&s=19

Observation:- It does have relatively large and horizontally spread out wings outwards compared to j20, j36, j35.
Instead of going for less spread out more delta wing design.
And the outer part of wing is getting more narrower( Good for folding wing machism?), x-47B made for carrier operations also had somewhat similar extended wings tips for folding wing mechism
Compare it do french neuron with has more swept back and wing extending more towards back

 

[randombully]

Observation:- It does have relatively large and horizontally spread out wings outwards compared to j20, j36, j35.
Instead of going for less spread out more delta wing design.
And the outer part of wing is getting more narrower( Good for folding wing machism?), x-47B made for carrier operations also had somewhat similar extended wings tips for folding wing mechism
Compare it do french neuron with has more swept back and wing extending more towards back

Another thing, more spread out wings helps much better in low speed handling
Which is good for landing on carrier
Having moving tilting wingtips are good for slow speed handling as they act as flaprons

 

[randombully]

Another thing, more spread out wings helps much better in low speed handling
Which is good for landing on carrier
Having moving tilting wingtips are good for slow speed handling as they act as flaprons

Design does seem good for carrier based fighter.
Landing gear is widely spaced and looks robust, back view also shows how much outwards it's wings extend.
And moving wing tip

@Bhartiya Sainik

 

[randombully]

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Design does seem good for carrier based fighter.
Landing gear is widely spaced and looks robust, back view also shows how much outwards it's wings extend.
And moving wing tip

@Bhartiya Sainik

What we haven't seen so far is folding wings and tail hook, tho if either one were shown it confirm it to a naval jet.
But right now it's a speculation because of its wing design and moving wing tips suggest some attempt has been made for better low speed handling.
Tho they still kept main wing closer to fuselage thicker front to back
Possibly to increase lift and fuel carrying