Chinese Economy Watch

[helin]

Mostly in China, but in Mexico and Brazil Mercedes benz has much higher sales, first for one reason they produce in mexico and Brazil and second the buses from China are imported so they have now tariffs
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On the other hand, Doctor Aideé Orozco Hernández, deputy director of Technological Development, Linkage and Innovation of the Conahcyt, commented that the Taruk bus “was designed with the support of two technology-based Mexican companies, Megaflux and Grupo DINA, in collaboration with the Center of Advanced Technology (CIATEQ)”. It is interesting that this Public Center that is boosting sustainable mobility is coordinated by Conahcyt, as well as by the UNAM and UAM Engineering Institute, specifically the unit located in Iztapalapa.

Taruk, like Olinia, is expected to boost electromobility, and which will begin to be increasingly present in Mexico, especially on public transport.

Taruk: El autobús eléctrico hecho en México que quiere competir con las marcas chinas

La movilidad eléctrica toma fuerza en México. Un ejemplo es este autobús cero emisiones hecho en México. Se llama Taruk y podría ser competencia de fabricantes chinos.

www.deceroacien.com.mx

Roberto Gottfried, CEO and founder of Megaflux, the company in charge of the manufacture of the electric drive train, explains that at the moment, he is counting on 68% of Regional Content Value, a figure that will increase to 75% in the middle of the year, since Some of its components are already being developed in the country.

Chinese vehicles have been placed as the ideal option to count on greener mobility in the country, but Taruk has the objective of reversing this trend, while also appearing as an alternative to reduce the use of private vehicles and reduce congestion.

Taruk, el primer autobús eléctrico diseñado en México que desafía a China

El plan es que este vehículo, que se produce entre Iztapalapa en CDMX y Ciudad Sahagún, Hidalgo, llegue a todo el país.

expansion.mx

Roberto Gottfried, co-founder of Megaflux, explained that '70% of Taruk's manufacturing is national', and noted that the only components that matter are lithium cells and power electronics. 'Even though we designed it here, we have to send it to make fire', he clarified. Dina manufactures the bodywork and chassis, while Megaflux is responsible for producing the engine. According to Gottfried, with current production capacity, 'it is possible to manufacture between 3,000 and 4,000 units of Taruk per year', which positions Mexico as a key player in the development of electric vehicles.

Taruk, el primer autobús eléctrico 100% mexicano, inicia pruebas en CDMX

Taruk, el primer autobús eléctrico diseñado en México, inicia pruebas en la CDMX. Fabricado en un 70% con componentes nacionales, puede recorrer 200 km con una carga. Con una inversión de 16 millones de pesos.

www.clusterindustrial.com.mx

Remember nations are unwilling to let China destroy their industries
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Done right,

hard work pays off

 

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Mexicans prefer German trucks

https://www.anpact.com.mx/documentos/reportes/Reporte_INEGI_ultimo_mes.pdf

 

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Mexicans prefer German trucks

https://www.anpact.com.mx/documentos/reportes/Reporte_INEGI_ultimo_mes.pdf

It would be better if Mexicans preferred Mexican products

 

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It would be better if Mexicans preferred Mexican products

No body is nationalistic when you buy, people buy by price and quality, DINA is listed and is a Mexican company, but people buy based upon what their pocket allows them.

However when companies do not give jobs then imports are not good for your pockets since for any economic movement it needs to be a circle and that means if you sell you buy, if not tariffs appear.

When you understand that is very likely you will understand if you are really our trade partner


“Mexico has to do its own review, because we buy 119 billion dollars a year from China and we sell 11 billion to China and they don’t buy from us (sic). And that is not reciprocal trade,” said the official, considering the statistics of the Ministry of Economy, which differ from those of the General Administration of Customs of China.

México duplica su déficit comercial de mercancías con China en cinco años

Rogelio Ramírez de la O, secretario de Hacienda, dijo el fin de semana que México planea hacer un cambio en la política de inversiones y de atención a la inversión extranjera, para así producir más y depender menos de otros países, incluyendo la potencia asiática.

www.eleconomista.com.mx

That is why our president will follow Trump

 

[Nutcracker]

It would be better if Mexicans preferred Mexican products

When will Xi leave American Boeing and prefer to fly in Chinese Comac C919. Or it's only for common people as guinea pigs.

 

[Azaad]

Typical Indians claim to know more about Chinese cases than Chinese.

Why don't you address the points I raised then ? Show me proof ordinary Chinese can invest in foreign stock markets & can buy property outside China.

 

[rockdog]

Why don't you address the points I raised then ? Show me proof ordinary Chinese can invest in foreign stock markets & can buy property outside China.

So many ways, like this kind of instruction.

内地居民炒美股方式有哪些_中国人炒美股-CSDN博客

文章浏览阅读716次，点赞5次，收藏8次。如果你是经常往返港澳的朋友，可以选择这种方式。先开立一张香港银行卡，再通过银行工作人员帮忙开立港美股证券账户。这种方式的好处是可以享受港股的低息交易政策。这是一种门槛较低的开户方式，无需开设海外银行账户，即可进行交易。不过，差价合约属于场外衍生金融产品，存在一定的风险。炒美股可不是闹着玩的，它需要你具备一定的投资知识和风险承受能力。互联网券商开户方便快捷，但目前一些主流券商已经暂停了新用户的开户，仅支持存量用户的交易。只有对自身情况有清晰的认知，才能制定适合自己的投资策略，避免盲目跟风，落入陷阱。_中国人炒美股

blog.csdn.net

And this lisenced company:

产品股票交易 | Interactive Brokers Hong Kong Limited（盈透证券香港有限公司）

盈透证券,股票,投资产品

www.ibtws.com

Plus, the whole Hong Kong is for this kind of business, all you need is to open accounts in Hong Kong

 

[rockdog]

It would be better if Mexicans preferred Mexican products

Will China Take Over the Global Auto Industry?​

Will China Take Over the Global Auto Industry?

China’s electric vehicle capacity will soon match total Chinese domestic auto demand, and total Chinese auto production capacity is already over half of total global auto demand.

www.cfr.org

 

[helin]

No body is nationalistic when you buy, people buy by price and quality, DINA is listed and is a Mexican company, but people buy based upon what their pocket allows them.

Buying domestic products is not only nationalism, but also pragmatism, environmentalism, cultural protectionism

Domestic products typically have lower carbon emissions during transport, helping to reduce environmental damage.
It is also a support for one's own culture and traditions

 

[Azaad]

So many ways, like this kind of instruction.

内地居民炒美股方式有哪些_中国人炒美股-CSDN博客

文章浏览阅读716次，点赞5次，收藏8次。如果你是经常往返港澳的朋友，可以选择这种方式。先开立一张香港银行卡，再通过银行工作人员帮忙开立港美股证券账户。这种方式的好处是可以享受港股的低息交易政策。这是一种门槛较低的开户方式，无需开设海外银行账户，即可进行交易。不过，差价合约属于场外衍生金融产品，存在一定的风险。炒美股可不是闹着玩的，它需要你具备一定的投资知识和风险承受能力。互联网券商开户方便快捷，但目前一些主流券商已经暂停了新用户的开户，仅支持存量用户的交易。只有对自身情况有清晰的认知，才能制定适合自己的投资策略，避免盲目跟风，落入陷阱。_中国人炒美股

blog.csdn.net

And this lisenced company:

产品股票交易 | Interactive Brokers Hong Kong Limited（盈透证券香港有限公司）

盈透证券,股票,投资产品

www.ibtws.com

Plus, the whole Hong Kong is for this kind of business, all you need is to open accounts in Hong Kong

To begin with I've told you before I don't understand the barbarian Han language & secondly I also wrote before saying ordinary mainland Chinese aren't permitted to invest in foreign stock markets or buy properties abroad.

 

[helin]

So many ways, like this kind of instruction.

内地居民炒美股方式有哪些_中国人炒美股-CSDN博客

文章浏览阅读716次，点赞5次，收藏8次。如果你是经常往返港澳的朋友，可以选择这种方式。先开立一张香港银行卡，再通过银行工作人员帮忙开立港美股证券账户。这种方式的好处是可以享受港股的低息交易政策。这是一种门槛较低的开户方式，无需开设海外银行账户，即可进行交易。不过，差价合约属于场外衍生金融产品，存在一定的风险。炒美股可不是闹着玩的，它需要你具备一定的投资知识和风险承受能力。互联网券商开户方便快捷，但目前一些主流券商已经暂停了新用户的开户，仅支持存量用户的交易。只有对自身情况有清晰的认知，才能制定适合自己的投资策略，避免盲目跟风，落入陷阱。_中国人炒美股

blog.csdn.net

And this lisenced company:

产品股票交易 | Interactive Brokers Hong Kong Limited（盈透证券香港有限公司）

盈透证券,股票,投资产品

www.ibtws.com

Plus, the whole Hong Kong is for this kind of business, all you need is to open accounts in Hong Kong

Chinese top buyers of US property for 11th year, but Canadians dominate volume

Demand for US homes from Chinese buyers affected by a strong dollar and higher prices, which caused investments to slump by over 40 per cent year on year, according to US real estate association.

www.scmp.com

 

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Chinese top buyers of US property for 11th year, but Canadians dominate volume

Demand for US homes from Chinese buyers affected by a strong dollar and higher prices, which caused investments to slump by over 40 per cent year on year, according to US real estate association.

www.scmp.com

Voting with Their Feet: Children of High-Level CCP Officials Choose to Live Abroad

Recent article by outspoken Chinese sociologist has gone viral on Beijing’s tightly-controlled social media, sparking debates about children of country’s privileged class who choose to live overseas

www.voanews.com

 

[rockdog]

To begin with I've told you before I don't understand the barbarian Han language & secondly I also wrote before saying ordinary mainland Chinese aren't permitted to invest in foreign stock markets or buy properties abroad.

"barbarian Han language" - No need to use offensive language, won't help the disscuion here.

From my personal experiences, ordinary people who don't have enough financial knowledge base and oversea sight on tech or energy sectors, shouldn't have access to invest forgein capital/stock market, it's too risky.

So our regulatoin is like filter, stop unexpericned perosnal investor away from high risky market from stage one like opening account.

Capable people would have enough skill to open personal account or via financial entities to invest from HK or Singapore. Mature capital markets like Nasdaq or NYS are 95% with institutional investors not perosnal.

Chinese policy makers made right choice: personal corss border investment need to be high regulated, and HK would be safe house for institutional investors.

If you don't have enough financial background, you still have lots of to learn.

 

[helin]

Xinhua News Agency, London, December 9 (Reporter Guo Shuang) The British "Nature" website released a list of the top 10 people who will promote science in 2024. Among them, two Chinese scientists were selected.

Compiled by Nature editors, the list aims to document the year's important scientific advances, events and some of the key people involved. Among them, two Chinese researchers named as the top 10 are Xu Huji, a "fearless doctor" rheumatologist at the PLA Navy Medical University, and Li Chunlai, deputy chief designer of the "Moon Rock Guardian" Chang 'e-6 mission and a researcher at the National Astronomical Observatory of the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Dr. Xu Huji bravely tried to treat autoimmune diseases with CAR T cell therapy, which brought hope for the mass production of CAR T cell therapy. Li was a key player in the decision on the lunar landing site for the Chang 'e-6 probe and was one of the first scientists to begin analyzing the returned samples.

Other names on the list include: The "father of time", physicist Eckhard Peck of the National Institute of Metrology in Germany, whose key discoveries could lead to nuclear clocks that go beyond existing atomic clocks; "Cosmic rover" - University of Chicago astronomer Wendy Friedman, whose work may put to rest a historical puzzle about the expansion rate of the universe; "Virus hunter" -- Prasid M 'Bala, an epidemiologist at the National Institute of Biomedical Research in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, sounding the alarm on a deadly monkeypox outbreak; And "AI weather forecaster" - Remi Ram, a researcher at Google's "Deep Mind" company.

Nature’s 10: the people who helped shape science in 2024

A fraud buster, a nuclear-clock maker and a virus hunter. These are just a few of the remarkable people chosen for this year’s Nature’s 10.

www.nature.com

 

[Azaad]

"barbarian Han language" - No need to use offensive language, won't help the disscuion here.

the Han language to us is barbarous just as anything other than Mandarin is barbaric to you.

From my personal experiences, ordinary people who don't have enough financial knowledge base and overseas sight on tech or energy sectors, shouldn't have access to invest in capital/stock market, it's too risky.

Your personal opinion or experiences don't matter . It's what your masters the CCP decrees which counts. CCP law prevents or makes it extremely difficult for the ordinary mainland Chinese to invest in foreign stock markets and properties.

So our regulatoin is like filter, stop unexpericted perosnal investors away from high risky market from stage one like opening account.

However the same CCP right down to its most junior cadre has relatives well settled in foreign lands to launder ill gained wealth from China in those very foreign lands.

Capable people would have enough skill to open personal account or via financial entities to invest from HK or Singapore. Mature capital markets like Nasdaq or NYS are 95% with institutional investors not perosnal.

Why's it China doesn't allow full convertibility of its currency in capital accounts? It's a must if the yuan is to replace the USD as the reserve currency of the world. It should also be easy more so since you're holding trillions of USD in bonds.

Chinese policy makers made right choice: personal corss border investment need to be highly regulated, and HK would be safe house for institutional investors.

If you don't have enough financial background, you still have lots of to learn.

Why's it then , every senior CCP leader has their near & extended families in the west apart from huge investments there. After all Great Helmsman 2.0 only child & daughter is settled in the west after pursuing further education there. All such news is always censored in China. Do you see discussion of this on Weibo ? No you don't.

Why would the CCP & all your top businessmen invest heavily in western stock exchanges & property whenever you're singing the praises of Chinese advancement & the prospect of China becoming a developed nation in your own lifetime.

I mean this isn't true of only China . It's true of Russia , Iran & all those countries imimical to the west. All this is known to western intelligence agencies . Hence the gradual reveal.

 

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Buying domestic products is not only nationalism, but also pragmatism, environmentalism, cultural protectionism

Domestic products typically have lower carbon emissions during transport, helping to reduce environmental damage.
It is also a support for one's own culture and traditions

look well what you said


Ford manufactures in Mexico, BYD does not so what is better a product made in Mexico or made in China?

Now Dina, Ayco or Bekkar make Buses in Mexico. tell me what are they going to buy?
In Mexico we have a capitalist system so the consumer buys what they want, we have many car brands. we allow you to enter even but you do not reciprocate thus we need to put tariffs

Dina or Bekkar do not force tech transfers.

They sell upon market rules in China most of your car brands are not profitable.
You need to export to pay for your subsidies, but now we are closing the doors because you do not buy.

The west simply is not going to allow you to sell the tech transfers you got and a dumping price.
Specially Germany or the USA

 

[helin]

look well what you said


Ford manufactures in Mexico, BYD does not so what is better a product made in Mexico or made in China?

Now Dina, Ayco or Bekkar make Buses in Mexico. tell me what are they going to buy?
In Mexico we have a capitalist system so the consumer buys what they want, we have many car brands. we allow you to enter even but you do not reciprocate thus we need to put tariffs

Dina or Bekkar do not force tech transfers.

They sell upon market rules in China most of your car brands are not profitable.
You need to export to pay for your subsidies, but now we are closing the doors because you do not buy.

The west simply is not going to allow you to sell the tech transfers you got and a dumping price.
Specially Germany or the USA

What is your estimate of Mexico's trade with China next year

 

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What is your estimate of Mexico's trade with China next year

Mexico is divided upon Pro-chinese and anti-Chinese factions.

Some people want commerce because the Chinese model is make products in Mexico only aseembling for example




Italika Assembles Chinese motorcycles in Mexico but is a Mexican brand (it is just lending its name)


SEV is the same, assembles Chinese cars E-wan (when Trump says China is building car factories he is partially right), so Those companies get some Money same is Giant Motors.

It will depend in the USA, If Trump radicalize some sectors in Mexico is probable the commerce will continue but with some tariffs.

If the USA makes a customs Union we are going to have the same tariffs you have in the USA.

To be Honest is not China`s fault trying to sell, but is a mistake for Mexico to do not put tariffs to Chinese product until we have some goods we can export to China to balance the trade. deficits.

I do not know the future, In Mexico they will not close the doors to China but they will limit the policies that opens the doors to China without China reciprocating, but the USA will be the major factor depending how they treat us, it is possible Mexico starts looking more to Europe and Asia.

 

[rockdog]

the Han language to us is barbarous just as anything other than Mandarin is barbaric to you.

Your personal opinion or experiences don't matter . It's what your masters the CCP decrees which counts. CCP law prevents or makes it extremely difficult for the ordinary mainland Chinese to invest in foreign stock markets and properties.



However the same CCP right down to its most junior cadre has relatives well settled in foreign lands to launder ill gained wealth from China in those very foreign lands.




Why's it China doesn't allow full convertibility of its currency in capital accounts? It's a must if the yuan is to replace the USD as the reserve currency of the world. It should also be easy more so since you're holding trillions of USD in bonds.



Why's it then , every senior CCP leader has their near & extended families in the west apart from huge investments there. After all Great Helmsman 2.0 only child & daughter is settled in the west after pursuing further education there. All such news is always censored in China. Do you see discussion of this on Weibo ? No you don't.

Why would the CCP & all your top businessmen invest heavily in western stock exchanges & property whenever you're singing the praises of Chinese advancement & the prospect of China becoming a developed nation in your own lifetime.

I mean this isn't true of only China . It's true of Russia , Iran & all those countries imimical to the west. All this is known to western intelligence agencies . Hence the gradual reveal.

1. For any developing nations, capital restriction is compulsary to the initial stage of development. East Asian nations have highest saving rate, this is the key how Japan, S.Korea, China, their small business took off and grew big, all nations at very first stage, kept the money inside nation, not investing overseas.

2. Finance is also a product, and WASP（USA & UK）nations are good at it. According to Comparative advantage theory, if you are weak on it, you should use Industry Policy to protect your industry till get stronger. Capital regulation is like tariff. Look at Argentina and other ASEAN nations, how they failed in 1997 and 2008, they were weak and they were too free on financial sector.

3. China has Hong Kong, a fire wall and safe house, it provides best financial products in the world to wealth and capable people from mainland, but still CCP has power to keep the money of common people investing local business. I see this is systematic advantage, not weakpoint.

4. I still hold my POV and personal experience, common people shouldn't invest on stock market to one or two company, it's too risky, let alone oversea stock market.

Plus, you can't talk about freedom regardless the ground reality, theoratically Indian people have freemdom to invest any stock makret, but this is the fact from 10 yrs ago till now:

Why So Few Indians Have Bank Accounts​

https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-IRTB-17110

In India,8o% ofwomen don't have bank accounts: UNDPreport

In India, 80% of women don’t have bank accounts: UNDP report | India News - Times of India

India News: As per the report released by the UNDP on Monday, the Human Development Index (HDI) rank of Bangladesh and Pakistan was 142 and 147, respectively.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

India still among countries with poor access to banking: Report​

India still among countries with poor access to banking: Report

India is among seven countries home to half the world’s 1.4 billion adults without access to formal banking, a recent World Bank report has flagged. The report

www.downtoearth.org.in

It's like rewarding a $500 coupon to each Chinese or Indian, tell them they are free to buy and fly a Boeing 737 and here is discount ...

 

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