Chit Chat

[ezsasa]

View: https://x.com/SirishChandran/status/1911067518225269061

good one, kudos to who ever planned this thing.

 

[rockdog]

Are you sure ? According to @rockdog , other Wumaos , the MSS & propaganda outlets like Global Times , People's Daily etc , the quality of iPhones leave a lot to be desired which is the reason Apple "shifted " production back to China last year in addition to which Indian workers & managers had skill development issues , were very slow to adapt etc.

Is it the case that those Foxconn companies in India assembling these iPhones possibly got all their labour & management staff from China when the GoI & us weren't looking for it seems impossible a backward people like Indians are capable of such feats .

It's only the superior Han race who've these in built tendencies.

It's never about whether India can or can't do, it's about time and efficiency. Like if India could make LCA finished 100pcs in 15 yrs i would say it's good work, but for 45 yrs ...

Too be frank, India spent around 3-5 yrs to master assembly work on mobile industry's lowest profitable part, you guys still long way to go, meanwhile within this 3-5 yrs China created lots of new manufacture section like 6 millions ICE/EV export as whole Indian vehicle manufacture productivity, Drones, robots, Battery ...

The gap on manufactures still getting bigger, it's all about how quicky you done it.

 

[darkflame]

hey guys what happened to our discord server.

 

[Yuyutsu]

was pointing this thing few months back too , could'nt find proper answrer then by chatGPT but grok the boss has answered.

see how few muslims were involved in freedom struggle for us while max of them too either were ruler or prince , and ran away to other countries after slight change in winds. just pathetic , even sikhs outnumber them even being so small in population.

• Mahatma Gandhi - Pioneered non-violent resistance (Satyagraha); led movements like Dandi Salt March and Quit India.
• Jawaharlal Nehru - Key Congress leader; advocated for complete independence; first Prime Minister.
• Subhas Chandra Bose - Formed Indian National Army (INA); led armed struggle against British.
• Bhagat Singh - Revolutionary; bombed Central Legislative Assembly; executed for Lahore Conspiracy Case.
• Chandrashekhar Azad - Led Hindustan Socialist Republican Association (HSRA); died in shootout at Alfred Park.
• Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel - Unified India post-independence; active in Bardoli Satyagraha and Congress.
• Bal Gangadhar Tilak - Promoted Swaraj; founded Home Rule League; "Swaraj is my birthright."
• Lala Lajpat Rai - Punjab Kesari; led protests against Simon Commission; died from lathi charge injuries.
• Bipin Chandra Pal - Part of Lal-Bal-Pal trio; advocated Swadeshi and boycott movements.
• Mangal Pandey - Sparked 1857 Revolt with rebellion at Barrackpore; executed by British.
• Rani Lakshmibai - Queen of Jhansi; led 1857 Revolt in Central India; died in battle.
• Tatya Tope - General in 1857 Revolt; coordinated guerrilla campaigns; executed by British.
• Bahadur Shah Zafar - Last Mughal Emperor; symbolic leader of 1857 Revolt; exiled to Burma. (FORCED TO BE A PART IN STRUGGLE AND FINALLY RAN AWAY)
• Kunwar Singh - Led 1857 Revolt in Bihar; fought at age 80; died from battle wounds.
• Sarojini Naidu - Nightingale of India; poet and Congress leader; joined Non-Cooperation Movement.
• Annie Besant - Founded Home Rule League; supported Indian self-rule; led theosophical movement.
• Maulana Abul Kalam Azad - Congress leader; championed Hindu-Muslim unity; opposed partition.
  (JUST A POLITICIAN , ADDED HIMSELF IN LIST PROBABLY)
• C. Rajagopalachari - Led Vedaranyam Salt March; later Governor-General; active in Congress.
• Rabindranath Tagore - Renounced knighthood post-Jallianwala Bagh; inspired nationalism via literature.
• Dadabhai Naoroji - Grand Old Man of India; founded INC; proposed Drain of Wealth theory.
• Gopal Krishna Gokhale - Moderate INC leader; mentored Gandhi; founded Servants of India Society.
• Surendranath Banerjee - Founded Indian National Association; led anti-partition movement.
• Rash Behari Bose - Organized Ghadar Movement; planned 1915 mutiny; fled to Japan.
• Madan Mohan Malaviya - Founded Banaras Hindu University; promoted education and Swadeshi.
• Chittaranjan Das - Founded Swaraj Party; defended revolutionaries; known as Deshbandhu.
• Alluri Sitarama Raju - Led Rampa Rebellion (1922-24) against British in Andhra; killed in ambush.
• Surya Sen - Masterminded Chittagong Armoury Raid (1930); executed by British.
• Pritilata Waddedar - Revolutionary; joined Chittagong raid; died in suicide attack.
• Rajendra Prasad - Congress leader; active in Champaran Satyagraha; first President of India.
• Ram Prasad Bismil - Kakori Conspiracy leader; wrote revolutionary poetry; executed.
• Ashfaqulla Khan - Kakori Conspiracy participant; HSRA member; executed with Bismil. (DESERVING)
• Sukhdev Thapar - HSRA revolutionary; Lahore Conspiracy Case; executed with Bhagat Singh.
• Shivaram Rajguru - HSRA member; assassinated Saunders; executed with Bhagat Singh.
• Vinayak Damodar Savarkar - Promoted Hindutva; wrote on 1857 Revolt; led revolutionary activities.
• K.M. Munshi - Congress leader; founded Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan; active in Swadeshi.
• J.B. Kripalani - Congress president; led Quit India Movement; founded Kisan Mazdoor Praja Party.
• Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan - Frontier Gandhi; founded Khudai Khidmatgar; promoted non-violence.
  (JUST FOUGHT FOR ISLAM AND PAKHTUNS)
• Usha Mehta - Ran secret Congress Radio during Quit India Movement; jailed for activism.
• Aruna Asaf Ali - Hoisted flag at Gowalia Tank (1942); led underground during Quit India.
  (DESERVING MAYBE)
• Matangini Hazra - Quit India activist; shot dead leading procession in Tamluk at age 72.
• Kasturba Gandhi - Gandhi’s wife; led women in protests; died in detention.
• Kamala Nehru - Organized women’s marches; supported Non-Cooperation Movement.
• Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit - Congress leader; jailed multiple times; led United Nations efforts.
• Bhikaiji Cama - Designed early national flag; revolutionary in exile; spoke at Stuttgart Congress.
• Taraknath Das - Ghadar Movement leader; spread revolutionary ideas in North America.
• Lala Hardayal - Founded Ghadar Movement in US; wrote anti-British propaganda.
• Kartar Singh Sarabha - Ghadar revolutionary; planned 1915 mutiny; executed at 19.
• Sohan Singh Bhakna - Ghadar Movement president; organized Indian workers abroad.
• Anant Laxman Kanhere - Assassinated British official in Nasik Conspiracy; executed.
• V.O. Chidambaram Pillai - Launched Swadeshi Steam Navigation Company; jailed for sedition.
• Sri Aurobindo - Early revolutionary; wrote in Bande Mataram; later spiritual leader.
• Barindra Kumar Ghosh - Sri Aurobindo’s brother; led Alipore Bomb Case; jailed.
• Khudiram Bose - Attempted Muzaffarpur bombing; youngest revolutionary executed at 18.
• Prafulla Chaki - Muzaffarpur bombing accomplice; died by suicide to avoid capture.
• Ullaskar Dutta - Made bombs for Alipore Conspiracy; sentenced to Cellular Jail.
• Hemchandra Kanungo - Trained revolutionaries in bomb-making; jailed in Alipore case.
• Sachindra Nath Sanyal - Founded Anushilan Samiti; wrote Bandi Jeevan; exiled.
• Ganesh Damodar Savarkar - Vinayak’s brother; revolutionary; jailed in Cellular Jail.
• Jatindra Nath Mukherjee - Bagha Jatin; led Indo-German Plot; died in battle.
• Bhavabhushan Mitra - Anushilan Samiti leader; planned attacks on British officials.
• Nana Sahib - Led 1857 Revolt in Kanpur; disappeared after defeat.
• Rao Tula Ram - Ahom leader in 1857 Revolt; fought in Haryana; died in exile.
• Azimullah Khan - Nana Sahib’s advisor; planned 1857 Kanpur uprising.(DESERVING)
• Begum Hazrat Mahal - Led 1857 Revolt in Lucknow; fled to Nepal after defeat.(FLED SEEING WIND CHANGE)
• Firoz Shah - Mughal prince; fought in 1857 Revolt; disappeared after battle.(FORCED TO FIGHT BEING PRINCE ,FLED SEEING WIND CHANGE)
• Hakim Ahsanullah Khan - Bahadur Shah’s physician; supported 1857 Revolt.(LOL DON'T KNOW HIS CONTRIBUTION )
• Dhan Singh Gurjar - Led Meerut rebellion in 1857; fought British forces.
• Rangaji Gaur - 1857 Revolt leader in Bundelkhand; guerrilla fighter.
• Jhalkari Bai - Rani Lakshmibai’s aide; fought in 1857 Jhansi battle; died in combat.
• Baba Ram Singh - Founded Namdhari movement; anti-British activities; exiled.
• Vasudev Balwant Phadke - Led armed rebellion in 1879; deported to Aden.
• Chapekar Brothers - Damodar and Balkrishna; assassinated British officer; executed.
• Shyamji Krishna Varma - Founded India House in London; mentored revolutionaries.
• Madan Lal Dhingra - Assassinated Curzon Wyllie in London; executed.
• Senapati Bapat - Revolutionary; led Mulshi Satyagraha; jailed multiple times.
• Ram Singh Kuka - Led Namdhari anti-British movement; deported to Burma.
• Birsa Munda - Led Munda Rebellion (1899-1900); died in jail; tribal hero.
• Pingali Venkayya - Designed early Indian flag; Congress activist.
• Hemu Kalani - Sabotaged British trains; executed at 19 during Quit India.
• Durgawati Devi - HSRA revolutionary; aided Bhagat Singh’s escape; jailed.
• Bina Das - Attempted assassination of Bengal Governor; jailed for activism.
• Kalpana Dutta - Chittagong Armoury Raid participant; jailed; joined CPI.
• Lakshmi Sahgal - INA’s Rani of Jhansi Regiment leader; worked under Bose.
• Rashmoni Das - Women’s leader in Quit India; organized protests in Bengal.
• Tirot Sing - Khasi leader; fought British in 1828; died in captivity.
• Rani Gaidinliu - Led Naga rebellion in 1930s; jailed for 14 years.
• Siddhu Murmu - Led Santhal Rebellion (1855); executed by British.
• Kanhu Murmu - Co-led Santhal Rebellion; tribal resistance hero.
• Tilka Manjhi - Led Bhagalpur tribal revolt (1784); early anti-British fighter.
• Veer Surendra Sai - Led Sambalpur rebellion (1857); jailed till death.

 

[Azaad]

It's never about whether India can or can't do, it's about time and efficiency. Like if India could make LCA finished 100pcs in 15 yrs i would say it's good work, but for 45 yrs ...

The J-7 derived almost entirely from the MiG-21 & as per international consensus considered to be one of the best derivatives of the MiG-21 took almost 3 decades to perfect from blue prints provided by the USSR to China in the early 1960s.

Since there was a Sino Soviet split , the technical information provided was in incomplete. It took the Chinese more than 3 decades to come up with what I've described earlier as the best derivative of the MiG-21.

Why do you suppose it took so long ? Any idiot will tell you that when you're attempting something for the first time , there's a very steep learning curve to be overcome as you're discovering thru the civilian aerospace industry & the various models you've launched or are launching with > 70% parts coming from the west.

Too be frank, India spent around 3-5 yrs to master assembly work on mobile industry's lowest profitable part, you guys still long way to go, meanwhile within this 3-5 yrs China created lots of new manufacture section like 6 millions ICE/EV export as whole Indian vehicle manufacture productivity, Drones, robots, Battery ...

I've seen enough reports to indicate that China's share of indigenization of mobile phones components is ~ 30% in Apple iPhones & you've been assembling these iPhones since the past 2 decades whereas we've been doing so since the past 5 years & we've already reached ~ 20% indigenization.

Why has China not managed more in terms of indigenization ? After all you're the number 1 industrial economy in the world.

The gap on manufactures still getting bigger, it's all about how quicky you done it.

I've told you innumerable times before that you ought not to see this as a 100 MTR sprint for by your logic , China shouldn't be where it is today technologically speaking as the west has had an amazing headstart over all the other economies of the world since the past 4 centuries which is the reason they colonised the rest of the world .

So how do you explain your success then ? And if you can do it why do you assume nobody can ? After all you weren't the first one to reach so far as to challenge the west . Japan did it a century ago. RoK did it 5 decades ago . So has Taiwan , Singapore etc.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/SirishChandran/status/1911067518225269061

Excellent psy ops. Aisi phati hogi ki Beijing mein awaaz goonja hoga. At last we're learning the way the game is played or at least the way CCP plays it.

 

[Azaad]

was pointing this thing few months back too , could'nt find proper answrer then by chatGPT but grok the boss has answered.

see how few muslims were involved in freedom struggle for us while max of them too either were ruler or prince , and ran away to other countries after slight change in winds. just pathetic , even sikhs outnumber them even being so small in population.

• Mahatma Gandhi - Pioneered non-violent resistance (Satyagraha); led movements like Dandi Salt March and Quit India.
• Jawaharlal Nehru - Key Congress leader; advocated for complete independence; first Prime Minister.
• Subhas Chandra Bose - Formed Indian National Army (INA); led armed struggle against British.
• Bhagat Singh - Revolutionary; bombed Central Legislative Assembly; executed for Lahore Conspiracy Case.
• Chandrashekhar Azad - Led Hindustan Socialist Republican Association (HSRA); died in shootout at Alfred Park.
• Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel - Unified India post-independence; active in Bardoli Satyagraha and Congress.
• Bal Gangadhar Tilak - Promoted Swaraj; founded Home Rule League; "Swaraj is my birthright."
• Lala Lajpat Rai - Punjab Kesari; led protests against Simon Commission; died from lathi charge injuries.
• Bipin Chandra Pal - Part of Lal-Bal-Pal trio; advocated Swadeshi and boycott movements.
• Mangal Pandey - Sparked 1857 Revolt with rebellion at Barrackpore; executed by British.
• Rani Lakshmibai - Queen of Jhansi; led 1857 Revolt in Central India; died in battle.
• Tatya Tope - General in 1857 Revolt; coordinated guerrilla campaigns; executed by British.
• Bahadur Shah Zafar - Last Mughal Emperor; symbolic leader of 1857 Revolt; exiled to Burma. (FORCED TO BE A PART IN STRUGGLE AND FINALLY RAN AWAY)
• Kunwar Singh - Led 1857 Revolt in Bihar; fought at age 80; died from battle wounds.
• Sarojini Naidu - Nightingale of India; poet and Congress leader; joined Non-Cooperation Movement.
• Annie Besant - Founded Home Rule League; supported Indian self-rule; led theosophical movement.
• Maulana Abul Kalam Azad - Congress leader; championed Hindu-Muslim unity; opposed partition.
  (JUST A POLITICIAN , ADDED HIMSELF IN LIST PROBABLY)
• C. Rajagopalachari - Led Vedaranyam Salt March; later Governor-General; active in Congress.
• Rabindranath Tagore - Renounced knighthood post-Jallianwala Bagh; inspired nationalism via literature.
• Dadabhai Naoroji - Grand Old Man of India; founded INC; proposed Drain of Wealth theory.
• Gopal Krishna Gokhale - Moderate INC leader; mentored Gandhi; founded Servants of India Society.
• Surendranath Banerjee - Founded Indian National Association; led anti-partition movement.
• Rash Behari Bose - Organized Ghadar Movement; planned 1915 mutiny; fled to Japan.
• Madan Mohan Malaviya - Founded Banaras Hindu University; promoted education and Swadeshi.
• Chittaranjan Das - Founded Swaraj Party; defended revolutionaries; known as Deshbandhu.
• Alluri Sitarama Raju - Led Rampa Rebellion (1922-24) against British in Andhra; killed in ambush.
• Surya Sen - Masterminded Chittagong Armoury Raid (1930); executed by British.
• Pritilata Waddedar - Revolutionary; joined Chittagong raid; died in suicide attack.
• Rajendra Prasad - Congress leader; active in Champaran Satyagraha; first President of India.
• Ram Prasad Bismil - Kakori Conspiracy leader; wrote revolutionary poetry; executed.
• Ashfaqulla Khan - Kakori Conspiracy participant; HSRA member; executed with Bismil. (DESERVING)
• Sukhdev Thapar - HSRA revolutionary; Lahore Conspiracy Case; executed with Bhagat Singh.
• Shivaram Rajguru - HSRA member; assassinated Saunders; executed with Bhagat Singh.
• Vinayak Damodar Savarkar - Promoted Hindutva; wrote on 1857 Revolt; led revolutionary activities.
• K.M. Munshi - Congress leader; founded Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan; active in Swadeshi.
• J.B. Kripalani - Congress president; led Quit India Movement; founded Kisan Mazdoor Praja Party.
• Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan - Frontier Gandhi; founded Khudai Khidmatgar; promoted non-violence.
  (JUST FOUGHT FOR ISLAM AND PAKHTUNS)
• Usha Mehta - Ran secret Congress Radio during Quit India Movement; jailed for activism.
• Aruna Asaf Ali - Hoisted flag at Gowalia Tank (1942); led underground during Quit India.
  (DESERVING MAYBE)
• Matangini Hazra - Quit India activist; shot dead leading procession in Tamluk at age 72.
• Kasturba Gandhi - Gandhi’s wife; led women in protests; died in detention.
• Kamala Nehru - Organized women’s marches; supported Non-Cooperation Movement.
• Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit - Congress leader; jailed multiple times; led United Nations efforts.
• Bhikaiji Cama - Designed early national flag; revolutionary in exile; spoke at Stuttgart Congress.
• Taraknath Das - Ghadar Movement leader; spread revolutionary ideas in North America.
• Lala Hardayal - Founded Ghadar Movement in US; wrote anti-British propaganda.
• Kartar Singh Sarabha - Ghadar revolutionary; planned 1915 mutiny; executed at 19.
• Sohan Singh Bhakna - Ghadar Movement president; organized Indian workers abroad.
• Anant Laxman Kanhere - Assassinated British official in Nasik Conspiracy; executed.
• V.O. Chidambaram Pillai - Launched Swadeshi Steam Navigation Company; jailed for sedition.
• Sri Aurobindo - Early revolutionary; wrote in Bande Mataram; later spiritual leader.
• Barindra Kumar Ghosh - Sri Aurobindo’s brother; led Alipore Bomb Case; jailed.
• Khudiram Bose - Attempted Muzaffarpur bombing; youngest revolutionary executed at 18.
• Prafulla Chaki - Muzaffarpur bombing accomplice; died by suicide to avoid capture.
• Ullaskar Dutta - Made bombs for Alipore Conspiracy; sentenced to Cellular Jail.
• Hemchandra Kanungo - Trained revolutionaries in bomb-making; jailed in Alipore case.
• Sachindra Nath Sanyal - Founded Anushilan Samiti; wrote Bandi Jeevan; exiled.
• Ganesh Damodar Savarkar - Vinayak’s brother; revolutionary; jailed in Cellular Jail.
• Jatindra Nath Mukherjee - Bagha Jatin; led Indo-German Plot; died in battle.
• Bhavabhushan Mitra - Anushilan Samiti leader; planned attacks on British officials.
• Nana Sahib - Led 1857 Revolt in Kanpur; disappeared after defeat.
• Rao Tula Ram - Ahom leader in 1857 Revolt; fought in Haryana; died in exile.
• Azimullah Khan - Nana Sahib’s advisor; planned 1857 Kanpur uprising.(DESERVING)
• Begum Hazrat Mahal - Led 1857 Revolt in Lucknow; fled to Nepal after defeat.(FLED SEEING WIND CHANGE)
• Firoz Shah - Mughal prince; fought in 1857 Revolt; disappeared after battle.(FORCED TO FIGHT BEING PRINCE ,FLED SEEING WIND CHANGE)
• Hakim Ahsanullah Khan - Bahadur Shah’s physician; supported 1857 Revolt.(LOL DON'T KNOW HIS CONTRIBUTION )
• Dhan Singh Gurjar - Led Meerut rebellion in 1857; fought British forces.
• Rangaji Gaur - 1857 Revolt leader in Bundelkhand; guerrilla fighter.
• Jhalkari Bai - Rani Lakshmibai’s aide; fought in 1857 Jhansi battle; died in combat.
• Baba Ram Singh - Founded Namdhari movement; anti-British activities; exiled.
• Vasudev Balwant Phadke - Led armed rebellion in 1879; deported to Aden.
• Chapekar Brothers - Damodar and Balkrishna; assassinated British officer; executed.
• Shyamji Krishna Varma - Founded India House in London; mentored revolutionaries.
• Madan Lal Dhingra - Assassinated Curzon Wyllie in London; executed.
• Senapati Bapat - Revolutionary; led Mulshi Satyagraha; jailed multiple times.
• Ram Singh Kuka - Led Namdhari anti-British movement; deported to Burma.
• Birsa Munda - Led Munda Rebellion (1899-1900); died in jail; tribal hero.
• Pingali Venkayya - Designed early Indian flag; Congress activist.
• Hemu Kalani - Sabotaged British trains; executed at 19 during Quit India.
• Durgawati Devi - HSRA revolutionary; aided Bhagat Singh’s escape; jailed.
• Bina Das - Attempted assassination of Bengal Governor; jailed for activism.
• Kalpana Dutta - Chittagong Armoury Raid participant; jailed; joined CPI.
• Lakshmi Sahgal - INA’s Rani of Jhansi Regiment leader; worked under Bose.
• Rashmoni Das - Women’s leader in Quit India; organized protests in Bengal.
• Tirot Sing - Khasi leader; fought British in 1828; died in captivity.
• Rani Gaidinliu - Led Naga rebellion in 1930s; jailed for 14 years.
• Siddhu Murmu - Led Santhal Rebellion (1855); executed by British.
• Kanhu Murmu - Co-led Santhal Rebellion; tribal resistance hero.
• Tilka Manjhi - Led Bhagalpur tribal revolt (1784); early anti-British fighter.
• Veer Surendra Sai - Led Sambalpur rebellion (1857); jailed till death.

Just a cursory glance threw up the following observations - Aruna Asaf Ali was a Hindu married to a Muslim Asaf Ali.

Hakim Ahsanullah Khan ultimately betrayed Zafar & his sons to the British.

Rao Tula Ram was an Ahir ( usually mistaken for a Hindu Jat ) who led the 1857 rebellion in Haryana. How on earth can he be identified as an Ahom ?

Ghaffar Khan was a true freedom fighter & social reformer of the Pashtuns . While a devout Muslim he was certainly secular in his world view.

 

[shuturmurg]

Nepali hitler is back


View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DHNhBUlSv-h/

 

[realsumo]

I found a guy on Twitter who was a supporter of the Samajwadi Party. Based on his retweet history, he also seemed to support Hamas and the Houthis (??? Why, even?). He even tweeted something like, "Iran is way ahead of India in military technology." He appeared to be Indian—most likely a Muslim from UP.

The weirdest part was that he seemed to actively promote Chinese propaganda and frequently used the P-word against Indians. Like, where do the loyalties of such people even lie?

 

[sameer]

Why are you so fucking obsessed with the perception of world?
and what fucking shit are you trying to achieve by arguing in a forum that is visiting by more or less 100 people daily?
You don't seem to have much interest in either military or geopolitics.

And if the perception of japanese of Indians is "lazy, unreliable, looking for handouts" etc then yeah that is 100% racism or preduige
Not to mention what the fuck kind of perception is that? That just not the perception people have of countries or it's people, that's not even a stereotype of Indians.

He's a low IQ conspiracy theorist who suffers from extreme self-esteem/perception issues and then projects his insecurities on the rest of the forum. I suspect he probably got bullied/beaten up or brutalized by wignats when he was a teenager which affected his psyche and is leading to such severe inferiority complex.

Told him previously that Twitter or 4chan might be better outlet to air such grievances as he might find more like minded people there , but this Gungadin still comes here on this small ass forum to disburse his coolie musings. God knows why. Every single post of his is just literal cringe.

 

[Nutcracker]

Why are you so fucking obsessed with the perception of world?
and what fucking shit are you trying to achieve by arguing in a forum that is visiting by more or less 100 people daily?
You don't seem to have much interest in either military or geopolitics.

And if the perception of japanese of Indians is "lazy, unreliable, looking for handouts" etc then yeah that is 100% racism or preduige
Not to mention what the fuck kind of perception is that? That just not the perception people have of countries or it's people, that's not even a stereotype of Indians.

Miyan tum bhi kuch aisa hi self depreciating comment Chinese thread pe kar rahe the jis vajah se Azaad miyan ke sath tumhari nokjhok ho gayi thi. Vo thread pe apni fertility kitni hai ye laane ki zarurat nahi thi.

 

[randombully]

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Miyan tum bhi kuch aisa hi self depreciating comment Chinese thread pe kar rahe the jis vajah se Azaad miyan ke sath tumhari nokjhok ho gayi thi. Vo thread pe apni fertility kitni hai ye laane ki zarurat nahi thi.

That was a discussion

I was not going through "we Need to change something etc, let's act blah blah in a threat visited by a dozen people at most", I was talking about the direction we are headed, I never said " how do we prevent it" I'm not expecting solutions.

He here is looking for some sort of idk result/movement that will change the perception/country for better.
In this case a platform with higher reach is where you should go.

And that azaad daddu is just salty due to some stupid points he brought up discussion related to stealth of su57, j20 and f35.
Mf' confidently said rafale is better than su57.
From then on he deemed me "to frustrating" to talk/argue with.

 

[rockdog]

The J-7 derived almost entirely from the MiG-21 & as per international consensus considered to be one of the best derivatives of the MiG-21 took almost 3 decades to perfect from blue prints provided by the USSR to China in the early 1960s.

Since there was a Sino Soviet split , the technical information provided was in incomplete. It took the Chinese more than 3 decades to come up with what I've described earlier as the best derivative of the MiG-21.

Why do you suppose it took so long ? Any idiot will tell you that when you're attempting something for the first time , there's a very steep learning curve to be overcome as you're discovering thru the civilian aerospace industry & the various models you've launched or are launching with > 70% parts coming from the west.


I've seen enough reports to indicate that China's share of indigenization of mobile phones components is ~ 30% in Apple iPhones & you've been assembling these iPhones since the past 2 decades whereas we've been doing so since the past 5 years & we've already reached ~ 20% indigenization.

Why has China not managed more in terms of indigenization ? After all you're the number 1 industrial economy in the world.

I've told you innumerable times before that you ought not to see this as a 100 MTR sprint for by your logic , China shouldn't be where it is today technologically speaking as the west has had an amazing headstart over all the other economies of the world since the past 4 centuries which is the reason they colonised the rest of the world .

So how do you explain your success then ? And if you can do it why do you assume nobody can ? After all you weren't the first one to reach so far as to challenge the west . Japan did it a century ago. RoK did it 5 decades ago . So has Taiwan , Singapore etc.

Since you invited me to this thread, here let me say my true thinking, just thinking, no offence:

There are lots of Chinese business people running manufactures in India, sad to mention that most of them gave negative comments for India's business environment and working culture.

This is a Chinese reditt:
Is India capable of catching up with China in manufacturing?

https://www.zhihu.com/question/445370503?utm_psn=1895435859177738492

One answer impressed me:

Accompanying the CEO to India for the first time in 2011,

The biggest problem in India is the "chaotic and scattered sand". During my travels in India, the most profound experience was that everyone went their own way, sitting and lying down whenever they wanted, and defecating and urinating wherever they wanted; Buildings, roads, and various electrical conduits are like curry in India, spread out in a mess; Various religions, languages, and political factions, it's all a hodgepodge~This is how the country, day and night, insists on competing with China, always thinking that what China can do, it can do it itself;

What is the foundation of industrialization? It must be a powerful element of organizational and management ability; What is industrialization most afraid of? It is most afraid of disorganization, lack of discipline, low efficiency, and internal friction. China's industrial foundation and supply chain have gone through several generations of ups and downs, and have already established a strong foundation that dominates the world. Multiple fields are in a monopolistic position, with profits reaching even the slightest penny, and even the G7 combined cannot surpass us.

Let's not talk about the supply chain of raw materials such as oil and minerals. Let's try to pull up the national water network, power grid, high-speed rail, communication, and highway network first.

I personally agree with this comment: there is a delusion like "If China can, India can".

I remember during 2024 Paris Olympic open ceremony, both India and China look in similar size 200:400, we all dressed good sportswear, we all waving hands and smiling on the boats, like we are in the similar league.

And we all know the final result on medal tally, it like a reflection from the reality: yes we have similar population, we might working to the same direction, but we never be the same league.

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Hope you don't go personal to me, you invited me here, i speak my true POV. thanks.

 

[Azaad]

Since you invited me to this thread, here let me say my true thinking, just thinking, no offence:

There are lots of Chinese business people running manufactures in India, sad to mention that most of them gave negative comments for India's business environment and working culture.

Of course there'd be negative reactions when they cheat , they're caught & prosecuted especially in the case of cell phone manufacturers like Xiaomi who came with the pre conceived plan of tax evasion & to that extent set up shell companies.

Or let's consider gambling apps based out of Nepal & Bangladesh ever since Indian police started cracking down on them .

Or let's consider personal loan apps charging exorbitant interest rates till the Indian courts came down heavily on them.

We trade with 150+ companies & we've never faced such organised criminal behaviour from any nationality except the Han Chinese. But then again given your recent history when you don't even spare each other including your own kin , why would you spare somebody else ?

This is a Chinese reditt:
Is India capable of catching up with China in manufacturing?

https://www.zhihu.com/question/445370503?utm_psn=1895435859177738492

One answer impressed me:

Did you ask that Wumao why's he continuing in India ? Why's it everybody from BYD to Midea to Haier to Bytedance to you name it is so keen on getting into India.

I'm told there's an old Mandarin saying that a Han is the only ethnicity who'd get currency notes lying in the gutter with his teeth in spite of those notes being soiled with faeces , if the Han Chinese is asked to do so. That's how much money matters to a Han. Is it true ?

It does look so from our experiences with the Han & what you have to report. "Black cat or white cat , it doesn't matter as long it catches rats. " Ditto for money irrespective how it is earned.

Besides all that talk of public defecation is usually on account of no such facilities being available. However with the Han it's not a question of facilities it's a question of habit.

The Han shits out in the open because that's how he likes it , public etiquettes be damned.

Didn't you see the various no defecation signs videos , photographs & memes members here shared from across the world including from Japan Taiwan RoK etc of signs in Mandarin asking the Han Chinese to observe public decorum & to shit in the washroom ?

I personally agree with this comment: there is a delusion like "If China can, India can".

Of course , any body can . Look you may think you're the chosen people but so do the Jews . Sorry to break this news to you . But as I keep telling you neither is this a 100 MTR sprint the way you keep trying to portray it nor is there anything innovative in what China's doing except for scale.

Your feats may impress the Paxtanis or the Nepalis or the Bangladeshis or the South East Asian nations , the Africans & the Latin Americans not us.

To us if the yellow man can do it , especially someone as backward as the Chinese who 50-60 years ago was busy eating wood bark or his parents or grand parents during the Great Leap Forward & selling out his siblings to the state in the Great Cultural Revolution , we'd be damned if we didn't.

I remember during 2024 Paris Olympic open ceremony, both India and China look in similar size 200:400, we all dressed good sportswear, we all waving hands and smiling on the boats, like we are in the similar league.

And we all know the final result on medal tally, it like a reflection from the reality: yes we have similar population, we might working to the same direction, but we never be the same league.

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Remind me how many medals the communist bloc used to win during the Cold War especially the USSR or East Germany. Where was the glorious Han Chinese then ? Where's the USSR or East Germany today ? Using any & every opportunity for propaganda especially sports is an old tried & tested method of communists.

Think about where would you & your country be in a decade from now & I don't mean at the latest Olympics.

Hope you don't go personal to me, you invited me here, i speak my true POV. thanks.

I didn't invite anyone here . I only tagged you here as members often do to other members so what if you're a paid propagandist of the CCP.

The CCP can exploit you by paying you the same rate per post they did 2 decades ago but we're a more merciful society than yours even if the CCP claims to work for the workers & peasants & screws both equally.

 

[Hari Sud]

Since you invited me to this thread, here let me say my true thinking, just thinking, no offence:

There are lots of Chinese business people running manufactures in India, sad to mention that most of them gave negative comments for India's business environment and working culture.

This is a Chinese reditt:
Is India capable of catching up with China in manufacturing?

https://www.zhihu.com/question/445370503?utm_psn=1895435859177738492

One answer impressed me:



I personally agree with this comment: there is a delusion like "If China can, India can".

I remember during 2024 Paris Olympic open ceremony, both India and China look in similar size 200:400, we all dressed good sportswear, we all waving hands and smiling on the boats, like we are in the similar league.

And we all know the final result on medal tally, it like a reflection from the reality: yes we have similar population, we might working to the same direction, but we never be the same league.

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Hope you don't go personal to me, you invited me here, i speak my true POV. thanks.

BS…… Corrupt Congress Raj is over. India is making 7 to 8% progress. Yes, it is happening without one trillion dollar FDI pumped into China and offered lowest currency value to help their progress. Then the Americans helped to create a procedure for easy export industry. That is the secret of Chinese success. Now Trump is going to fix all that and take away the benefits then Chinese will look worst than India. If you don’t believe me wait 5 years and see for yourself.

 

[rockdog]

BS…… Corrupt Congress Raj is over. India is making 7 to 8% progress. Yes, it is happening without one trillion dollar FDI pumped into China and offered lowest currency value to help their progress. Then the Americans helped to create a procedure for easy export industry. That is the secret of Chinese success. Now Trump is going to fix all that and take away the benefits then Chinese will look worst than India. If you don’t believe me wait 5 years and see for yourself.

Let me translate for you: "My generation (i guest you are 80 yrs old rite?) who created biggest gap with China, it's not our generation's failure, it's because USA and China worked together. Our generation will have ultimate relief from failure will be USA and China not work together".

Is that accurate to describe your mindset?

 

[SKC]

hey guys what happened to our discord server.

It is still there. It serves as place holder in case of any outage and emergency with the forum.​

 

[crazywithmath]

Let me translate for you: "My generation (i guest you are 80 yrs old rite?) who created biggest gap with China, it's not our generation's failure, it's because USA and China worked together. Our generation will have ultimate relief from failure will be USA and China not work together".

Is that accurate to describe your mindset?

Imagine trying to guilt trip others when, in fact, it was your commie overlords who were bending over backwards and whoring out in front of the white masters from burgerland and even serving as the loyal attack dogs against the Soviets just to remain in the good books of Uncle Sam and grab some investments in the process.

Heck, and I bring this because you brought fucking Olympics into a thread that discussed geopolitics, you afeemchis even boycotted the 1980 Games to keep Uncle Sam happy.

Pussy ass whores!

Either way, the burgerboys were blinded by greed and fucked up big time by seducing chongs, of all. And are now paying the price.


Like I said to that Russian IT cell coolie on this thread the other day, please continue fighting each other to death, my dear wumao. Hurt the burgerboys and get hurt. Wypipos and the bat munchers must battle it out.

 

[shade2]

Like I said to that Russian IT cell coolie on this thread the other day, please continue fighting each other to death, my dear wumao. Hurt the burgerboys and get hurt. Wypipos and the bat munchers must battle it out.

Pic related, Forum memberaans cheering Numba Wan Middle Kingdom vs L*nd of Free and B*nd of the Brave Superpower knife-fight

 

[londonparistokyo]

was pointing this thing few months back too , could'nt find proper answrer then by chatGPT but grok the boss has answered.

see how few muslims were involved in freedom struggle for us while max of them too either were ruler or prince , and ran away to other countries after slight change in winds. just pathetic , even sikhs outnumber them even being so small in population.

• Mahatma Gandhi - Pioneered non-violent resistance (Satyagraha); led movements like Dandi Salt March and Quit India.
• Jawaharlal Nehru - Key Congress leader; advocated for complete independence; first Prime Minister.
• Subhas Chandra Bose - Formed Indian National Army (INA); led armed struggle against British.
• Bhagat Singh - Revolutionary; bombed Central Legislative Assembly; executed for Lahore Conspiracy Case.
• Chandrashekhar Azad - Led Hindustan Socialist Republican Association (HSRA); died in shootout at Alfred Park.
• Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel - Unified India post-independence; active in Bardoli Satyagraha and Congress.
• Bal Gangadhar Tilak - Promoted Swaraj; founded Home Rule League; "Swaraj is my birthright."
• Lala Lajpat Rai - Punjab Kesari; led protests against Simon Commission; died from lathi charge injuries.
• Bipin Chandra Pal - Part of Lal-Bal-Pal trio; advocated Swadeshi and boycott movements.
• Mangal Pandey - Sparked 1857 Revolt with rebellion at Barrackpore; executed by British.
• Rani Lakshmibai - Queen of Jhansi; led 1857 Revolt in Central India; died in battle.
• Tatya Tope - General in 1857 Revolt; coordinated guerrilla campaigns; executed by British.
• Bahadur Shah Zafar - Last Mughal Emperor; symbolic leader of 1857 Revolt; exiled to Burma. (FORCED TO BE A PART IN STRUGGLE AND FINALLY RAN AWAY)
• Kunwar Singh - Led 1857 Revolt in Bihar; fought at age 80; died from battle wounds.
• Sarojini Naidu - Nightingale of India; poet and Congress leader; joined Non-Cooperation Movement.
• Annie Besant - Founded Home Rule League; supported Indian self-rule; led theosophical movement.
• Maulana Abul Kalam Azad - Congress leader; championed Hindu-Muslim unity; opposed partition.
  (JUST A POLITICIAN , ADDED HIMSELF IN LIST PROBABLY)
• C. Rajagopalachari - Led Vedaranyam Salt March; later Governor-General; active in Congress.
• Rabindranath Tagore - Renounced knighthood post-Jallianwala Bagh; inspired nationalism via literature.
• Dadabhai Naoroji - Grand Old Man of India; founded INC; proposed Drain of Wealth theory.
• Gopal Krishna Gokhale - Moderate INC leader; mentored Gandhi; founded Servants of India Society.
• Surendranath Banerjee - Founded Indian National Association; led anti-partition movement.
• Rash Behari Bose - Organized Ghadar Movement; planned 1915 mutiny; fled to Japan.
• Madan Mohan Malaviya - Founded Banaras Hindu University; promoted education and Swadeshi.
• Chittaranjan Das - Founded Swaraj Party; defended revolutionaries; known as Deshbandhu.
• Alluri Sitarama Raju - Led Rampa Rebellion (1922-24) against British in Andhra; killed in ambush.
• Surya Sen - Masterminded Chittagong Armoury Raid (1930); executed by British.
• Pritilata Waddedar - Revolutionary; joined Chittagong raid; died in suicide attack.
• Rajendra Prasad - Congress leader; active in Champaran Satyagraha; first President of India.
• Ram Prasad Bismil - Kakori Conspiracy leader; wrote revolutionary poetry; executed.
• Ashfaqulla Khan - Kakori Conspiracy participant; HSRA member; executed with Bismil. (DESERVING)
• Sukhdev Thapar - HSRA revolutionary; Lahore Conspiracy Case; executed with Bhagat Singh.
• Shivaram Rajguru - HSRA member; assassinated Saunders; executed with Bhagat Singh.
• Vinayak Damodar Savarkar - Promoted Hindutva; wrote on 1857 Revolt; led revolutionary activities.
• K.M. Munshi - Congress leader; founded Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan; active in Swadeshi.
• J.B. Kripalani - Congress president; led Quit India Movement; founded Kisan Mazdoor Praja Party.
• Khan Abdul Ghaffar Khan - Frontier Gandhi; founded Khudai Khidmatgar; promoted non-violence.
  (JUST FOUGHT FOR ISLAM AND PAKHTUNS)
• Usha Mehta - Ran secret Congress Radio during Quit India Movement; jailed for activism.
• Aruna Asaf Ali - Hoisted flag at Gowalia Tank (1942); led underground during Quit India.
  (DESERVING MAYBE)
• Matangini Hazra - Quit India activist; shot dead leading procession in Tamluk at age 72.
• Kasturba Gandhi - Gandhi’s wife; led women in protests; died in detention.
• Kamala Nehru - Organized women’s marches; supported Non-Cooperation Movement.
• Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit - Congress leader; jailed multiple times; led United Nations efforts.
• Bhikaiji Cama - Designed early national flag; revolutionary in exile; spoke at Stuttgart Congress.
• Taraknath Das - Ghadar Movement leader; spread revolutionary ideas in North America.
• Lala Hardayal - Founded Ghadar Movement in US; wrote anti-British propaganda.
• Kartar Singh Sarabha - Ghadar revolutionary; planned 1915 mutiny; executed at 19.
• Sohan Singh Bhakna - Ghadar Movement president; organized Indian workers abroad.
• Anant Laxman Kanhere - Assassinated British official in Nasik Conspiracy; executed.
• V.O. Chidambaram Pillai - Launched Swadeshi Steam Navigation Company; jailed for sedition.
• Sri Aurobindo - Early revolutionary; wrote in Bande Mataram; later spiritual leader.
• Barindra Kumar Ghosh - Sri Aurobindo’s brother; led Alipore Bomb Case; jailed.
• Khudiram Bose - Attempted Muzaffarpur bombing; youngest revolutionary executed at 18.
• Prafulla Chaki - Muzaffarpur bombing accomplice; died by suicide to avoid capture.
• Ullaskar Dutta - Made bombs for Alipore Conspiracy; sentenced to Cellular Jail.
• Hemchandra Kanungo - Trained revolutionaries in bomb-making; jailed in Alipore case.
• Sachindra Nath Sanyal - Founded Anushilan Samiti; wrote Bandi Jeevan; exiled.
• Ganesh Damodar Savarkar - Vinayak’s brother; revolutionary; jailed in Cellular Jail.
• Jatindra Nath Mukherjee - Bagha Jatin; led Indo-German Plot; died in battle.
• Bhavabhushan Mitra - Anushilan Samiti leader; planned attacks on British officials.
• Nana Sahib - Led 1857 Revolt in Kanpur; disappeared after defeat.
• Rao Tula Ram - Ahom leader in 1857 Revolt; fought in Haryana; died in exile.
• Azimullah Khan - Nana Sahib’s advisor; planned 1857 Kanpur uprising.(DESERVING)
• Begum Hazrat Mahal - Led 1857 Revolt in Lucknow; fled to Nepal after defeat.(FLED SEEING WIND CHANGE)
• Firoz Shah - Mughal prince; fought in 1857 Revolt; disappeared after battle.(FORCED TO FIGHT BEING PRINCE ,FLED SEEING WIND CHANGE)
• Hakim Ahsanullah Khan - Bahadur Shah’s physician; supported 1857 Revolt.(LOL DON'T KNOW HIS CONTRIBUTION )
• Dhan Singh Gurjar - Led Meerut rebellion in 1857; fought British forces.
• Rangaji Gaur - 1857 Revolt leader in Bundelkhand; guerrilla fighter.
• Jhalkari Bai - Rani Lakshmibai’s aide; fought in 1857 Jhansi battle; died in combat.
• Baba Ram Singh - Founded Namdhari movement; anti-British activities; exiled.
• Vasudev Balwant Phadke - Led armed rebellion in 1879; deported to Aden.
• Chapekar Brothers - Damodar and Balkrishna; assassinated British officer; executed.
• Shyamji Krishna Varma - Founded India House in London; mentored revolutionaries.
• Madan Lal Dhingra - Assassinated Curzon Wyllie in London; executed.
• Senapati Bapat - Revolutionary; led Mulshi Satyagraha; jailed multiple times.
• Ram Singh Kuka - Led Namdhari anti-British movement; deported to Burma.
• Birsa Munda - Led Munda Rebellion (1899-1900); died in jail; tribal hero.
• Pingali Venkayya - Designed early Indian flag; Congress activist.
• Hemu Kalani - Sabotaged British trains; executed at 19 during Quit India.
• Durgawati Devi - HSRA revolutionary; aided Bhagat Singh’s escape; jailed.
• Bina Das - Attempted assassination of Bengal Governor; jailed for activism.
• Kalpana Dutta - Chittagong Armoury Raid participant; jailed; joined CPI.
• Lakshmi Sahgal - INA’s Rani of Jhansi Regiment leader; worked under Bose.
• Rashmoni Das - Women’s leader in Quit India; organized protests in Bengal.
• Tirot Sing - Khasi leader; fought British in 1828; died in captivity.
• Rani Gaidinliu - Led Naga rebellion in 1930s; jailed for 14 years.
• Siddhu Murmu - Led Santhal Rebellion (1855); executed by British.
• Kanhu Murmu - Co-led Santhal Rebellion; tribal resistance hero.
• Tilka Manjhi - Led Bhagalpur tribal revolt (1784); early anti-British fighter.
• Veer Surendra Sai - Led Sambalpur rebellion (1857); jailed till death.

Go by the list Captain Vadakayil recommends. Gandhi was a british agent (true sepoy), Nehru, we all know. Many unsung and forgotten (intentionally) heroes as well