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[karn]

Oh, yes, now I remember. But as far as I can remember, his arguments for Arjun being a subpar tank were quite on point.

I got banned on DFI for pointing out that Arjun is pretty shit .. mind you this was OG Arjun without the blowout panels and that meme level apfsds it had at the time.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Oh, yes, now I remember. But as far as I can remember, his arguments for Arjun being a subpar tank were quite on point.

In my memory, i think he consider it failed nd below subpar level....but after some beefs in his last joint video. he accept its a decent tank, which main problem is its weight. other problems isnt that big, that u consider it deal breaker. alpha defense many old videos get deleted (i think due to copyright or other reason)...so i cant show u their joint video.

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

I got banned on DFI for pointing out that Arjun is pretty shit .. mind you this was of Arjun without the blowout panels and that meme level apfsds it had at the time.

arjun:-

 

[karn]

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Unfortunately yes .. the argument at that time devolved into leopard 2 vs t90 cause everyone there thought of Arjun as a leopard 2 clone . I was presented with leopard 2 diagrams as argument points

 

[Ayan Barat]

BSF needs to buy this from Turkiye as soon as possible. Would be a game changer on the eastern border.

 

[shade2]

BSF needs to buy this from Turkiye as soon as possible. Would be a game changer on the eastern border.
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Kangal Jammer

 

[Vishnugupt]

(((Dog lovers))) lafda

View: https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1849752158448632308?t=1IBmmlwB-VW-2Ouy6Qt_VA&s=19

The culture of Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-sickulars and their Offspring.

These people are diseases in society

 

[Blood+]

Unfortunately yes .. the argument at that time devolved into leopard 2 vs t90 cause everyone there thought of Arjun as a leopard 2 clone . I was presented with leopard 2 diagrams as argument points
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Yeah, but in reality, Arjun was infinitely shittier than even the Leopard 2A4.

 

[Blood+]

I got banned on DFI for pointing out that Arjun is pretty shit .. mind you this was OG Arjun without the blowout panels and that meme level apfsds it had at the time.

Yeah, same here as well. In fact, I got banned multiple times for saying that.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

I got banned on DFI for pointing out that Arjun is pretty shit .. mind you this was OG Arjun without the blowout panels and that meme level apfsds it had at the time.

You do know your GOD LEVEL Challenger 2 tank that is winning war in Ukraine too don't have blow out panels and there are pill boxes on the sides of Hitomaru tank turret too, another God level tank that you guys will love.

 

[Blood+]

oh fuck. an ultrasmurf.

It's a more recent thing, really. Originally, I was a Blood Angels fan (still am) but once Sir Roundabout Ceiling-fan, Mr. Blueberry himself came back to life, it's been the Smurfs for me ever since.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

Only if you're LazerPig, LMAO. And guess what?? Arjun has far FAR worse armor protection than even the Challenger 2 as well.

That's another diarrhea product of too much listening to western so called channels whose tanks are getting ass-kicked in Ukraine and not reading from beginning the DFI thread on Arjun.

And I can again report you too to admins for Aaj ka Clown meme but I know I am dealing with KID.

 

[Blood+]

That's another diarrhea product of too much listening to western so called channels whose tanks are getting ass-kicked in Ukraine and not reading from beginning the DFI thread on Arjun.

Sigh... At least try to make some sense when you decide to reply to someone.

 

[karn]

You do know your GOD LEVEL Challenger 2 tank that is winning war in Ukraine too don't have blow out panels and there are pill boxes on the sides of Hitomaru tank turret too, another God level tank that you guys will love.

GOD LEVEL Challenger 2 was also used as justification for the rifled gun on the arjun lol.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

GOD LEVEL Challenger 2 was also used as justification for the rifled gun on the arjun lol.

Okay!

It is there that I had the good fortune to meet Gen Israel Tal (the famous Israel Armor Commander). It was during this meeting he gave me some advice which became my strategic for the ARJUN Project development. Let me quote this conversation verbatim as under: –

“Gen I am informed that you are handling the Tank project for India if so, let me give you some advice from my experience of making our MARKAVA Tank. Never attempt to make a PERFECT TANK."

From here, do read it, and if read in past, read it again and try to understand.

THE ARJUN TANK SAGA | Salute

The first and the only MBT that India has ventured to produce and operationalise-The Arjun tanks- have a long and eventful history behind it.

salute.co.in

 

[Blood+]

GOD LEVEL Challenger 2 was also used as justification for the rifled gun on the arjun lol.

It was their experience with the Centurions, that prompted the IA to opt for a rifled gun but yeah, it's pretty moot in the grand scheme of things. Just thought I should mention it for the record.

 

[karn]

It was their experience with the Centurions, that prompted the IA to opt for a rifled gun but yeah, it's pretty moot in the grand scheme of things. Just thought I should mention it for the record.

I meant the forum walas.. Whos line of argument boiled down to "This tank is good and has X this and arjun has the same so it must be good.
I am uninterested in re hashing these almost decade old points. Right now the germans don't have the engine for the arjun so even that token number of mk2s are not getting built. So arguing anything is moot.

 

[Blood+]

I meant the forum walas.. Whos line of argument boiled down to "This tank is good and has X this and arjun has the same so it must be good.
I am uninterested in re hashing these almost decade old points. Right now the germans don't have the engine for the arjun so even that token number of mk2s are not getting built. So arguing anything is moot.

Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. In that case, you were 40000 percent on point.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

There are some guys out here who think they have learned about Arjun more than even the Liason officers who were with Arjun tank development when it development started.

And please don't come with "just because he is in Army and high ranking officer doesn't mean a thing", yeah, your thinking is important.
His points in his article which is written after a long time when Arjun tank project was finally over per se is not important, right? Atleast for History read it.

For those lots, please do again read this.

THE ARJUN TANK SAGA | Salute

The first and the only MBT that India has ventured to produce and operationalise-The Arjun tanks- have a long and eventful history behind it.

salute.co.in

 

[Bleh]

I got banned on DFI for pointing out that Arjun is pretty shit .. mind you this was of Arjun without the blowout panels and that meme level apfsds it had at the time.

Arjun Mark 1 was pretty oversized & crudely designed... but so was Merkava Mk1.
There was no need for so much extra shit to be hurled. All will were banned were banned for how they were making their points, not what the points were.