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INB4 it gets rejected again. Theexcuseissue this time will probably be lower firing range.
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Army is likely focused on mobility here. They are used to handle Dhanus/FH77 towed guns, and are probably confident of repositioning a lighter gun in time. We give the army a lot of flak here, but they don't screw around with logistics. The heavier 25 liter gun has it's merits, and it'd be ideal if both variants were inducted. They'd shave off a lot of weight with a titanium barrel. I suspect the MGS will carry the heavier gun, and the lighter gun will be towed only.Mobility is low but as you shoot way farther, the options of counter battery fire decreases and you get more time to scoot.
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Mobility is high but you now shoot at a shorter range, the options of counter battery fire increases and you get less time to scoot.
A pretty funny conundrum...with the end result being more or less the same.
Army is likely focused on mobility here. They are used to handle Dhanus/FH77 towed guns, and are probably confident of repositioning a lighter gun in time. We give the army a lot of flak here, but they don't screw around with logistics. The heavier 25 liter gun has it's merits, and it'd be ideal if both variants were inducted. They'd shave off a lot of weight with a titanium barrel. I suspect the MGS will carry the heavier gun, and the lighter gun will be towed only.
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INB4 it gets rejected again. Theexcuseissue this time will probably be lower firing range.
View: https://x.com/8r02s125558/status/1855475198457213197
Naaah my Man...titanium is a big no no for gun barrels.titanium barrel
Titanium will make the system way too costly, though.
Only so many ways to make it light and maintaining chamber capacity. Regardless, I don't think the Army would induct Titanium barrels in bulk. Electrochemical Machining cost alone would take a big bite from the budget. I don't know exactly what they are doing to shave off 3 tons from the gun, but it may come at a cost of reduced barrel life. It'd Be interesting to see the barrel life comparison between an FH77 and the 15 ton ATAGS.Yeah, it can also be a reason.
But then again a more elegant way of solving this could have been a single modular platform (either Dhanush or ATAGS) and the options to swap between a 39 cal small and 52 cal large chamber barrel based on the deployment sector like people do with 5.56/300BLK guns.
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Naaah my Man...titanium is a big no no for gun barrels.
The biggest reason is thermal conductivity; for steel it's 45W/(mK) and that for titanium it's just 11.5W/(mK). This slows down the conduction of heat form the bore surface to the other surface of barrel where it can dissipated in the atmosphere. The resulting accumulation of heat causes uneven stress zones in the barrel with even chances of catastrophic rupture.
Another factor is wearing properties of titanium. And not just that but titanium is also more prone to suffers from a problem unique to it called galling.
Arrrrrreee...you just can't use titanium in a gun barrel; at least with the current available technology. Period.Only so many ways to make it light and maintaining chamber capacity. Regardless, I don't think the Army would induct Titanium barrels in bulk. Electrochemical Machining cost alone would take a big bite from the budget. I don't know exactly what they are doing to shave off 3 tons from the gun, but it may come at a cost of reduced barrel life. It'd Be interesting to see the barrel life comparison between an FH77 and the 15 ton ATAGS.
INB4 it gets rejected again. Theexcuseissue this time will probably be lower firing range.
View: https://x.com/8r02s125558/status/1855475198457213197
So that they can later import K9A3s from 'good' Korea.Why reduce chamber? Thats what gave range advantage. Why not have Marg155 self propelled developed instead of having reduced chamber in ATAGS?
So that they can later import K9A3s from 'good' Korea.
Yes thats what came to my mind : that this way it could be a way of allowing multiple guns to complete.So that they can later import K9A3s from 'good' Korea.
We need the SPAAG one of K9 like 300 more units.
Pakeez have burger-made SPAAGs for a total of 500 units
Agni-P with its MaRV should be the most probable oneIs this some known project or it's some top secret DRDO missile we haven't seen/heard about?