DRDO and PSUs

[chnvipgz]

I believe DRDO is also developing one.

With these, we will have the capablity to hit Islamabad/Rawalpindi using 155mm. Not sure about the accuracy though?
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One difference is that earlier drdo said it was 150+km but now they are saying 85km whereas other countries testing it with 150-200km range with increased caliber like 58 whereas we are using 52.

If they can get 150-200 km range it will be better than brahmos strike at 30kusd per target it will be mildly accurate with guided kit.

 

[randombully]

I believe DRDO is also developing one.

With these, we will have the capablity to hit Islamabad/Rawalpindi using 155mm. Not sure about the accuracy though?
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We ain't hitting civilian cites using artillary shells, any attempt will be blocked by military leaders.
High value targets will be taken out by expensive missiles with precision strike.

 

[snakeeyes07]

One difference is that earlier drdo said it was 150+km but now they are saying 85km whereas other countries testing it with 150-200km range with increased caliber like 58 whereas we are using 52.

If they can get 150-200 km range it will be better than brahmos strike at 30kusd per target it will be mildly accurate with guided kit.

For mk1 85km isn't bad, it opens up depth targets in Shakargarh bulge and around that area. Entire Lahore metropolitan area including Muridke from safe areas in India.

 

[snakeeyes07]

We ain't hitting civilian cites using artillary shells, any attempt will be blocked by military leaders.
High value targets will be taken out by expensive missiles with precision strike.

It is supposed to be GNSS and INS guided, should be fairly accurate. Unguided over that distance and with ramjet propulsion doesn't make sense. If there is GNSS jamming over target then it can be inaccurate.

 

[username unkown]

Dont know where to share but must read this

View: https://x.com/LSaillans/status/1930956957042565552

There are more posts but this where the most important ones



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And if you consider ukr had natural vegetation and building as barriers against drone in conflict btw india china we or chinease won't have same liberty there will be no barriers to escape from fpv no vegetation and in name of building mostly military installation
So its mostly open and terrain is best suited for fpv btw India-China if conflict arises it would be blood bath on a way diff level then Ukraine

 

[randombully]

One difference is that earlier drdo said it was 150+km but now they are saying 85km whereas other countries testing it with 150-200km range with increased caliber like 58 whereas we are using 52.

If they can get 150-200 km range it will be better than brahmos strike at 30kusd per target it will be mildly accurate with guided kit.

View: https://x.com/ToughSf/status/1926594091896443096

This thing with 150km range while 155mm in diameter is 1.5+m long.
A normal 155mm artillery shell is about 0.6m long.
It's more than 2.5 times longer than your typical artillary shell


Plus also see the fins and extensive guidance kit, it's not a artillary shell anymore, It's a realtively cheaper ramjet powered land attack missile, that uses howitzers as boosters( to propel it to speeds to activate It's ramjet).

Oh yeah, I can fucking guarantee you, this won't be 52k dollars a peice, i will be surprised if they buy this thing for less than 200k a peice.


As for us, much better to just get a 150km range guided rocket( as bonus bigger warhead) than working on this shit.

 

[snakeeyes07]

View: https://x.com/ToughSf/status/1926594091896443096

This thing with 150km range while 155mm in diameter is 1.5+m long.
A normal 155mm artillery shell is about 0.6m long.
It's more than 2.5 times longer than your typical artillary shell


Plus also see the fins and extensive guidance kit, it's not a artillary shell anymore, It's a realtively cheaper ramjet powered land attack missile, that uses howitzers as boosters( to propel it to speeds to activate It's ramjet).

Oh yeah, I can fucking guarantee you, this won't be 52k dollars a peice, i will be surprised if they buy this thing for less than 200k a peice.


As for us, much better to just get a 150km range guided rocket( as bonus bigger warhead) than working on this shit.

Correct, this thing costs more than guided Pinaka even at $100k. Maybe locally produced ones will be cheaper.

 

[randombully]

Correct, this thing costs more than guided Pinaka. Maybe locally produced ones will be cheaper.
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Even cheaper would be just make a 150km max range guided pinaka than creating this 150km ramjet powered shell.

But after 120km range guided pinaka, we are directly moving to 300km range cheap tactical ballistic missile.

So it seems army Has no desire for rocket artillary( mass use) with more than 120km range for now.

 

[snakeeyes07]

Even cheaper would be just make a 150km max range guided pinaka than creating this 150km ramjet powered shell.

But after 120km range guided pinaka, we are directly moving to 300km range cheap tactical ballistic missile.

So it seems army Has no desire for rocket artillary( mass use) with more than 120km range for now.

Agree, re 300km range munition it might still be a rocket to be fired off same Pinaka launcher like the Israeli MLRS:

 

[randombully]

Agree, re 300km range munition it might still be a rocket to be fired off same Pinaka launcher like the Israeli MLRS:
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I know it will fired from same launcher.

What I'm saying is at those ranges I Don't consider those be "rockets/ guided rockets" anymore.

 

[Nibbler]

And if you consider ukr had natural vegetation and building as barriers against drone in conflict btw india china we or chinease won't have same liberty there will be no barriers to escape from fpv no vegetation and in name of building mostly military installation
So its mostly open and terrain is best suited for fpv btw India-China if conflict arises it would be blood bath on a way diff level then Ukraine

Mountains should make it more difficult for fpv surely?

 

[username unkown]

Mountains should make it more difficult for fpv surely?

Not really mountains would make it more difficult for conventional aircraft or bigger drones not for fpv
I can't find it right now but someone in past in this forum explained why fpv would have much problem in moutain

 

[silentassassin265]

I believe DRDO is also developing one.

With these, we will have the capablity to hit Islamabad/Rawalpindi using 155mm. Not sure about the accuracy though?
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Due to ramjet accuracy will slightly improve

 

[swesh]

Point to be noted it's 1000+ seconds

View: https://twitter.com/SpokespersonMoD/status/1915790485492314431

 

[swesh]

 

[snakeeyes07]

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So is this to support anti-satellite kill chain?

 

[Rai89]

Correct, this thing costs more than guided Pinaka even at $100k. Maybe locally produced ones will be cheaper.
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Would a ramjet artillery round be not difficult to intercept than a guided rocket?

Anyway Pakistan is a very narrow country with most of their population and military infrastructure located within a few hundred kilometres of the border. India should be investing in thousands of rocket and gun artillery. It's much cheaper to hit military targets with artillery than with expensive cruise missiles.

 

[chnvipgz]

Agree, re 300km range munition it might still be a rocket to be fired off same Pinaka launcher like the Israeli MLRS:
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Israel even made these long range extra Rockets into rampage missiles for airforce and sold it to india now drdo going to make guided pinaka to be used as an aerial weapon from hawki,Tejas and and ucav.

DRDO Explores Air-to-Surface Variants of Pinaka for Indian Air Force - Indian Defence Research Wing

SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / IDRW.ORG In a significant expansion of its Pinaka rocket program, the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is now exploring the development of an air-to-air variant of the long-range Guided Pinaka, in addition to its ongoing efforts to create an...

idrw.org

 

[swesh]

So is this to support anti-satellite kill chain?

Ssa is not only use to kill satellite it can also be used to fool enemy satellite by placing decoy before they pass

 

[Blood+]

While mlrs are a better option.

But even with small few kg warheads damaged caused by getting hit by 100 artillary shells, especially if fired on key areas( towers, biuldings, radars, runways) is pretty significant.

Yeah, but why would you want to lob 155mm shells at them when guided rockets can cause far higher destruction at pretty much the same cost??!! Heck, it'd probably cost you even less as you will require fewer numbers of rockets to do the same job.