Idiotic Musings from the West

[Psacha123]

lol AI is out of control. ft. Vivek and Loomer


View: https://x.com/papitrumpo/status/1872386995265351841?s=46

 

[realsumo]

if tomorrow in the name of 'meritocracy', our nation of people, its customs and culture are abolished, then i would oppose this so called drive for merit.

And many times the drive for merit is just an excuse for rootless cosmopolitans who don't have any affinity for the country to just impose a foreign population on your homeland for monetary or political gain. Dont be surprised that people will oppose it.

Yes, people would oppose meritocracy because everyone has been led to believe that all individuals are equal, which I thoroughly disagree with. A person's worth is determined by what they offer to society or the nation. A top scientist's life is far more valuable than that of a group of petty thieves.

Take a look at the Chinese Cultural Revolution—people did oppose it. But didn’t it ultimately lead to a better outcome for China today? If they had continued fighting among the different ethnicities, they would be in the same situation as us. For a nation to perform optimally, it must have a binding factor—common heroes and villains, religion, culture, or even an ideology. Without such factors, the idea of a truly united nation is a pipe dream, and a nation that is not united cannot focus on any goal.

Furthermore, democracy is neither the most efficient nor the most perfect form of governance—it is the most stable form of governance. Democracy works best for developed countries, where stability is the primary requirement. For countries with deep-rooted religious, cultural, and societal problems, democracy can be a curse. These nations require massive changes, reforms, and optimizations, which are often not achievable under a democratic system.

"Every act of creation is first an act of destruction."
– Pablo Picasso

 

[Oldworld]

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Laura is getting lora from all sides now





Indians right now

 

[SKC]

For very first time, a number of minorities in US have spoken up in favor of Indian-Americans. Usually, most hate Indians for their success in US but this time they might be speaking from their own experience of Racism by fellow White-Americans.
A number of EU origin Americans are also talking in favor of Indian community of US.​

 

[Oldworld]

Take a look at the Chinese Cultural Revolution—people did oppose it. But didn’t it ultimately lead to a better outcome for China today?

No

It lead cannibalism of among Chinese


Destruction of priceless Chinese historical cultural artifacts

India getting Sikkim
Btw our agreement to not use lethal weapons was also signed then
Hans were scared on conflict with India would give Soviet's the war excuse they wanted to exterminate Hans

Purge of PLA officers which led to China getting wreaked in Sino-Vietnam war
first 2 days of war 4K PLA soldiers were slaughtered like cattle

Only beneficiary was Mao who got revered as a communist saint after his death.
Whole revolution was done by him was to prevent the fate of Stalin post his death.

Only thing Chinese learnt from it was never to let any Mao descendant continue or they may repeat the cycle.

 

[realsumo]

No

It lead cannibalism of among Chinese
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Destruction of priceless Chinese historical cultural artifacts

India getting Sikkim
Btw our agreement to not use lethal weapons was also signed then
Hans were scared on conflict with India would give Soviet's the war excuse they wanted to exterminate Hans

Purge of PLA officers which led to China getting wreaked in Sino-Vietnam war
first 2 days of war 4K PLA soldiers were slaughtered like cattle

Only beneficiary was Mao who got revered as a communist saint after his death.
Whole revolution was done by him was to prevent the fate of Stalin post his death.

Only thing Chinese learnt from it was never to let any Mao descendant continue or they may repeat the cycle.

Not denying the problems caused by the Cultural Revolution. However, the benefits I was thinking of were entirely different.

What are the problems India is still dealing with? The historical baggage.
We have many outdated systems and past legacies that continue to create issues in our society. To build a new system, the old one must be dismantled; otherwise, remnants of the past will persist in causing problems.

There is an old Chinese saying: "Always pluck the roots of the weeds, or they will regrow in the next rainy season and continue to sap nutrients from other plants."

Another point is that change is constant, but no one wants or likes change. Change always disrupts societal structures, and society itself resists this disruption.

We still grapple with many problems rooted in the past, such as religious conflicts, caste issues, and ethnic divisions. Even today, people fight over differences in religion, caste, and ethnicity.

The first benefit of the Cultural Revolution was thorough destruction. It eradicated the old feudal structures in rural China, the traditional class system (although a new class system quickly emerged), ancient superstitions, and the entrenched social hierarchy. These systems were completely rooted out. It also contributed to forming a collective identity, which is something India significantly lacks.

In addition, the Cultural Revolution promoted a unified identity, goals, culture, and language, all of which are massive advantages for a nation. Traditional gender roles were also dismantled. We still face this issue today, where one gender works far less than the other, which is almost half the population, and represents a significant portion of the workforce.

Once these outdated systems are dismantled, it becomes easier to establish a new system. Resistance to reforms also decreases—a struggle we are still facing today. People resist reforms, and societal and cultural changes occur far too slowly.

 

[Psacha123]

View: https://x.com/asharoraa/status/1872535941103128917?s=46

 

[Vinash]

Musk is demonetizing far-right retards.

 

[Oldworld]

The first benefit of the Cultural Revolution was thorough destruction. It eradicated the old feudal structures in rural China, the traditional class system (although a new class system quickly emerged), ancient superstitions, and the entrenched social hierarchy. These systems were completely rooted out. It also contributed to forming a collective identity, which is something India significantly lacks.

Reading your post seems like I seeking quick solutions

I will address some of your points

feudal structures
Xi's grandpa Xi Zongde was a rural landowner. He lived a life of power.
His son Xi Zhongxun lived a life of power becoming Vice Chairman.
Xi currently lives a life of power.
By the looks of his daughter Xi Mingze and relatives are going to continue living a life of power
As China’s Leader Fights Graft, His Relatives Shed Assets



Ancient superstitions
Very reason we had covid and previous other pandemics from hanland was due to superstitious belief of curing aliments from wildlife animal cuisine.


entrenched social hierarchy
Hans open believe in Sino-Centrism, Han chauvnism even at nation state level and continue to have hukow system

 

[Gurmeet]

Reading your post seems like I seeking quick solutions

I will address some of your points

feudal structures
Xi's grandpa Xi Zongde was a rural landowner. He lived a life of power.
His son Xi Zhongxun lived a life of power becoming Vice Chairman.
Xi currently lives a life of power.
By the looks of his daughter Xi Mingze and relatives are going to continue living a life of power
As China’s Leader Fights Graft, His Relatives Shed Assets



Ancient superstitions
Very reason we had covid and previous other pandemics from hanland was due to superstitious belief of curing aliments from wildlife animal cuisine.


entrenched social hierarchy
Hans open believe in Sino-Centrism, Han chauvnism even at nation state level and continue to have hukow system

People who hasn't read history will bat for something as retarded as "Chinese Culture Revolution".

 

[Vinash]

Elon in complete troll mode.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Elon in complete troll mode.

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This elon nigga sure has grit, he single handley is fighting for what he believes in even if he is getting bodied.

 

[Vinash]

This elon nigga sure has grit, he single Handley is fighting for what he believes in even if he is getting bodied.

Paypal, SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink etc

Guy is a true genius. Typically speaking, such guys tend to lean hard libertarians. He was a Democrat remember. Had the left not gone so extreme, he'd have stuck with Democrats.

He's now realising that right has extremes too.

 

[Oldworld]

People who hasn't read history will bat for something as retarded as "Chinese Culture Revolution".

They fall for commie branding techniques

No one would fall for "cultural revolution" if it called as "cannibal cultural military purge for Mao's Sainthood"

 

[crazywithmath]

My honest reaction:

 

[Blademaster]

Musk is demonetizing far-right retards.

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Basically showing who’s the boss like an alpha. Elon Musk is an alpha male and has no hesitation showing who’s the boss. Some people might say that so is Trump and he doesn’t tolerate others showing him up and will smack down any other challenger or alpha males but Elon Musk isn’t just one of your typical alpha males. He’s a real one and he has the means to retaliate and Trump can’t run for president again anymore and he’s only a couple years away from being senile and he knows that. So as long as Elon don’t directly challenge Trump, Trump will let Elon do what he wants. Even Trump’s kids are wary of Elon Musk and will not cross him.

 

[Cyclops]

Paypal, SpaceX, Tesla, Starlink etc

Guy is a true genius. Typically speaking, such guys tend to lean hard libertarians. He was a Democrat remember. Had the left not gone so extreme, he'd have stuck with Democrats.

He's now realising that right has extremes too.

I suggest not glazing him just yet.

Musk, in all probability, belongs to the Peter Thiel, billionaire weirdo group. These guys, in some form or other have bought into the "muh CEO monarch and we, the nerdy-ubermensch, counter-elite should rule the West" nonsense.

Just because he and his silicon valley buddies need Indians(for now), doesn't mean he won't snap back against Indians and India when it's convenient for them.

The manifest-destiny stuff is still alive and well within them.

 

[sameer]

A message to all those Indians living in the US and Canada




They did not even spare Brown coconuts like Vivek Ramaswamy and Dinesh Dsouza. Therefore, you would be deluding yourself if you think you will be an exception.

Do N's and African immigrants care if they are being accepted? Do Muslimes care if they are being accepted?

No, they just go there and impose themselves on the local cultures and dominate the locals showing them the middle finger every time.

The biggest problem with Indians is the coolie like slave attitude, always yearning for acceptance and validation from someone else.

 

[realsumo]

Sigh. Let’s break this down,

feudal structures
Xi's grandpa Xi Zongde was a rural landowner. He lived a life of power.
His son Xi Zhongxun lived a life of power becoming Vice Chairman.
Xi currently lives a life of power.
By the looks of his daughter Xi Mingze and relatives are going to continue living a life of power

This is typical nepotism and an extension of classism. These issues are never going to disappear. Classism would exist regardless of the power structure, society, or system of governance.
Furthermore, I already mentioned that a new class system quickly replaced the former one. The previous system was just as bad, if not worse. Almost 10% of the population controlled around 70% of the total arable land, and the social order was highly rigid, with landlords and gentry holding significant power.
Xi holds significant power, with the opposition having little to no influence, so this outcome was inevitable due to their political system.

Thus, this doesn’t counter my points. The revolution *did* remove the entrenched feudal system.

Ancient superstitions
Very reason we had covid and previous other pandemics from hanland was due to superstitious belief of curing aliments from wildlife animal cuisine.

Welp, Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM). They have removed many superstitions tied to religion, but they have oddly been promoting TCM extensively. When I was reading about it, I found that some of the materials used in TCM are really bizarre and sometimes disgusting—like bat feces, deer p*nis, and tiger bone.

Maybe they’ve managed better PR, but oddly enough, we get targeted online for strange practices like drinking cow p*ss, etc. But, they are unaware of Chinese medicine.

I’ve been reading about a lot of weird Chinese food and materials used in TCM. Maybe, I’ll compile them and post about it in the China thread later.

entrenched social hierarchy
Hans open believe in Sino-Centrism, Han chauvnism even at nation state level and continue to have hukow system

The hukou system is just a typical method to segregate and control the population. After all, it’s an authoritarian regime.
I was talking to a guy who had lived in Beijing before, and he mentioned that locals harbor very negative sentiments toward migrants and don’t like them very much.

Sino-centrism has also existed for a long time. They have also displayed xenophobia throughout history. While it has incresed recently, it has always been present.
For example, there is a famous quote by Zuo Qiuming (非我族类，其心必异), which literally translates to: “Those who are not of our race must have a different heart.” This was written during the same period as the Lord Buddha.

 

[realsumo]

They fall for commie branding techniques

No one would fall for "cultural revolution" if it called as "cannibal cultural military purge for Mao's Sainthood"

Okay, I don't even know what to say to that.
I liked cultural revolution, because it dismantled the previous system, and I don't like the way India carries the historical baggage with it. To remove it, a thorough Revolution was required just after independence and to give rise to a collective identity.

Do you feel China would have been better without a thorough dismantlement of its old structure? It had gone through a civil war, there were still ROC sympathisers.
Perhaps, it would have been burdened by the massive seperatist movements, like how we continued to suffered through.

Secondly, I don't mind being called a fascist, but communist seems like an insult. As someone who grew up in Bengal, communism is one thing that i hate the most.