India Canada Relations

Azaad said:
Wonder why's India waiting ? We should pre empt Canada by targeting their pension funds investing here . Either launch severe curbs on their investments or boot them out.
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Nah! Let it simmer! Let the stupid single-cell-brained do the damage to himself. It will be good exercise and experience for our diplomatic teams, will be useful in future.
 
angryindian said:
Trade and diplomacy should be treated differently. If we target their pension fund,rest assured that FDIs and FIIs will dry up quickly, severely impacting India's economic growth.

China and America's relationship remained tense for almost 80 years, however, this did not impact their trade relationship. Even to this day when the US is working on several anti-Chinese programs, they still are economically heavily dependent on each other.
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There are multiple issues here which need to be addressed. To begin with there's the issue of terrorism & its backers in the west. Initially it was thought to be benign neglect . With Turdeau's party in a minority coalition politics followed a trajectory harmful to our interests.

The issue then was whether we did what we used to in the past & exchange dossiers or pre empt the Khalistanis. Unlike others here I'm not at all sanguine on there being no prospects for Khalistani terrorism being revived in India .

For perspective look at how the movement started. This was essentially a fight between two sects of Sikhi which the morphed into despotism including Hindu hatred & assassinations .

The anti farm laws agitation , that seizing of the Red Fort , Amritpal's election to the LS accompanied by Beant Singh's son being elected , if all these writings on the wall aren't recognised for what it is we risk walking into another trap eyes wide open.

The other issue to be considered is the US's desperation to get us to tow their line on Russia. The Nupur Sharma controversy concocted by Qatar , the activation of Khalistani activists & activities around the same time all point out to deliberate attempts by the US to stoke fires in India.

I'd further argue that the recent coup in BD is part of the same plan since Modi was re elected & the US couldn't get any pliant regime in Delhi . Since Plan A didn't work ,the US is now onto Plan B which is to brow beat India & humiliate the government

Now the issue is how do we respond. I for one thought we shouldn't have gone after Pannu on US soil. Canada is a different case altogether. Our response to Canada ought to be disproportionate for it's not only Canada we would be up against but the entire 5i's & later the G-7. The US will be using Canada like it did Qatar earlier to get back at us.

Speaking of Qatar , the way they held us by the balls in the ex IN personnel spy case & released them only after they got their way with us may be missed by us ordinary folk not by the diplomatic community. If we capitulate before Canada it'd be another nail in our diplomatic coffin. We'd be seen as paper tigers.

Getting at Canada is our way of getting at the US since we can't get to the latter in any case. Hence whatever we do from here on must have a deterrent effect on any nation which can & will attempt such mischief in future.

This is the reason our response MUST be disproportionate. Merely expelling senior diplomats & using tough language doesn't cut it beyond a point.
 
notaname said:
:wtf:

Canada Foreign minister says it will involve 5 eyes & G7 in India case.

View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1846004201882571176?t=3mGqWikLRVPb65WHlpAuFA&s=19
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I mean why the heck Canadian Pappu is exercising all the 'forbidden tools', Does he want his country to be isolated from a major economy? All for some kind of minority extremism movement who are not even loyal to Canada.
Now to ban RSS. How will USA will respond to this stupidity. USA has responsibility to make canadians look serious. All that fake pannu case is created to make Canadian Pappu look less pathetic.
 
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"These dirty Indians should be kept on a short leash. How dare these third world rats dictate what's right and what's wrong. How dare these inferior subhumans take action against us."

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"Aiding terrorists and separatists against a "friendly" state is our right".


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Apparently we Indians are coping over the deaths of a few terrorists :lol:
 
The Juggernaut said:
I mean why the heck Canadian Pappu is exercising all the 'forbidden tools', Does he want his country to be isolated from a major economy? All for some kind of minority extremism movement who are not even loyal to Canada.
Now to ban RSS. How will USA will respond to this stupidity. USA has responsibility to make canadians look serious. All that fake pannu case is created to make Canadian Pappu look less pathetic.
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How do they think India will respond?
That will result in a total ban on the foreign missionaries here in India, and more.
 
Corvus Splendens said:
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"These dirty Indians should be kept on a short leash. How dare these third world rats dictate what's right and what's wrong. How dare these inferior subhumans take action against us."

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"Aiding terrorists and separatists against a "friendly" state is our right".


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Apparently we Indians are coping over the deaths of a few terrorists :lol:
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I said they will feel like this. "As the king, so are the people."
All this might give them a little bit dopamine brusts, in that way Trudeau's deflection is working as expected.

It will be great if Trudeau open gates for immigrants people being prosequeted in India, 10-20 million immigrants will be great for Canada.
 
Look what I am thinking is extreme but can happen in case of a downward spiral... Millions of Indians in the west especially US & CANADA whom the GOI & people here in India consider as assets will be turned into liabilities(hostages of the west)... they can be denied civil rights or may not be allowed to leave or state backed violence can happen against them. There is a possibility.
 
Azaad said:
There are multiple issues here which need to be addressed. To begin with there's the issue of terrorism & its backers in the west. Initially it was thought to be benign neglect . With Turdeau's party in a minority coalition politics followed a trajectory harmful to our interests.

The issue then was whether we did what we used to in the past & exchange dossiers or pre empt the Khalistanis. Unlike others here I'm not at all sanguine on there being no prospects for Khalistani terrorism being revived in India .

For perspective look at how the movement started. This was essentially a fight between two sects of Sikhi which the morphed into despotism including Hindu hatred & assassinations .

The anti farm laws agitation , that seizing of the Red Fort , Amritpal's election to the LS accompanied by Beant Singh's son being elected , if all these writings on the wall aren't recognised for what it is we risk walking into another trap eyes wide open.

The other issue to be considered is the US's desperation to get us to tow their line on Russia. The Nupur Sharma controversy concocted by Qatar , the activation of Khalistani activists & activities around the same time all point out to deliberate attempts by the US to stoke fires in India.

I'd further argue that the recent coup in BD is part of the same plan since Modi was re elected & the US couldn't get any pliant regime in Delhi . Since Plan A didn't work ,the US is now onto Plan B which is to brow beat India & humiliate the government

Now the issue is how do we respond. I for one thought we shouldn't have gone after Pannu on US soil. Canada is a different case altogether. Our response to Canada ought to be disproportionate for it's not only Canada we would be up against but the entire 5i's & later the G-7. The US will be using Canada like it did Qatar earlier to get back at us.

Speaking of Qatar , the way they held us by the balls in the ex IN personnel spy case & released them only after they got their way with us may be missed by us ordinary folk not by the diplomatic community. If we capitulate before Canada it'd be another nail in our diplomatic coffin. We'd be seen as paper tigers.

Getting at Canada is our way of getting at the US since we can't get to the latter in any case. Hence whatever we do from here on must have a deterrent effect on any nation which can & will attempt such mischief in future.

This is the reason our response MUST be disproportionate. Merely expelling senior diplomats & using tough language doesn't cut it beyond a point.
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to be able to see an outcome, we have to start seeing canada and trudeau govt as different entities. just because trudeau(political entity) is hiding behind canada(sovereign country), does not mean GoI has to give trudeau what he wants. there are three separate entities, trudeau, candian govt, and canada.

from trudeau's perspective, what is he trying to get out of all this?
- win next election
- preventing downslide in his political capital
- create an impression of being saviour of canada, protecting it from big bad nationalist regime in India.
- to continue his party's policy of turning a blind eye on empty space gangs
- to continue canada's lax immigration policy

what is trudeau willing to sacrifice to get what he wants?
- safety of canadian citizens, by turning a blind eye towards internal gang activities.
- relationship with India now and china earlier(huawei case).
- canada's economy

what is working in trudeau's favour ?
- pliant canadian media who don't ask him any tough questions
- libtard/congi journos in U.S and India, who will help anyone that takes on BJP and modi.
- no geographical threat to canadian sovereignty.
- political backing from dominant ideology in U.S.A
- being a protectorate of U.S security establishment.

what are empty spaces getting out of it?
- prolong their activities by using canadian and murican govt as a shield
- prolonging their political movement
- prolonging their control over gurudwaras in canada
- conflating empty spaces with sikhs
- conflating empty spaces with canada
- preventing scrutiny/action against their gangland and human trafficking activities, both in India and canada.
- sustaining pakiland's support for their movement.


what is GoI's official stand?
- trudeau is doing all this for votebank politics
- canadian security establishment has been lax in bringing down gang activities
- canada has become safe haven for empty space activities.

what does GoI's want?
- canada not become a safe haven for empty space activities
- canadian security establishment control their gang activities, which are impacting India as well.

why is all this happening in the first place?
- colonial era policy/games of "divide and rule" refuse to die
- canadian bureaucracy refusing to investigate 1984 kanishka bombing and bring it to a logical conclusion


ultimately this is a country of 3.5 crore people, it's politics will be that of an Indian state. things must be so bad within canada that the trudeau fellow felt it is ok to sacrifice govt to govt relationship.
 
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The Juggernaut said:
I mean why the heck Canadian Pappu is exercising all the 'forbidden tools', Does he want his country to be isolated from a major economy? All for some kind of minority extremism movement who are not even loyal to Canada.
Now to ban RSS. How will USA will respond to this stupidity. USA has responsibility to make canadians look serious. All that fake pannu case is created to make Canadian Pappu look less pathetic.
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You are forgetting that the US in 2018 classified RSS as a political pressure group and VHP and Bajrangdal as religious extremist groups.
 
We are in world war,
Ukraine vs Russia,
Isreal vs Palestine,
Bangaldesh Coup etc

India Vs Canada is latest addition in this.
 
iNorthernerOn9 said:
Look what I am thinking is extreme but can happen in case of a downward spiral... Millions of Indians in the west especially US & CANADA whom the GOI & people here in India consider as assets will be turned into liabilities(hostages of the west)... they can be denied civil rights or may not be allowed to leave or state backed violence can happen against them. There is a possibility.
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They (NRI) only fear deportation.
 
www.indiatoday.in

Who is protecting Lawrence Bishnoi? Trinamool MP to Centre on Canada's charge

Saket Gokhale questioned how Lawrence Bishnoi was able to allegedly carry out murders and extortion in India and abroad from jail.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in

A brown coolie who earlier worked at a cia front.

Saket Gokhale is an Indian Member of Parliament, RTI activist and politician, and the National Spokesperson of Trinamool Congress. He joined TMC in 2021. He had also worked as a foreign correspondent at the Financial Times and at National Public Radio. Now he is the member of India's Upper House of Parliament ..Wikipedia
 
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