Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[RDXChauhan]

FOC Tejas Locked on to JF-17 forcing JF-17 Pilot to run back . BVR Lock was Secured but not fired due to Rules of engagement (ROE) on First night.

View: https://t.me/goreunit/18464

 

[silentassassin265]

There goes out mk2 program

https://idrw.org/indias-jet-engine-dilemma-hal-ge-f414-talks-stall-safrans-m88-4-eco-emerges-as-contender-for-tejas-mkii/

 

[BON PLAN]

There goes out mk2 program

https://idrw.org/indias-jet-engine-dilemma-hal-ge-f414-talks-stall-safrans-m88-4-eco-emerges-as-contender-for-tejas-mkii/

M88 was studied as a familly :

M88-2 : serially produced for Rafale.
M88-3 9Tons variant. Built and tested as prototyps (for UAE in a time, 2011, were they wanted a kind of super Rafale.
M88-4 : 10.5 Tons. Only a paper project.... except if it is this engine that is expected to power the SCAF prototyp. But between 2 prototyps to manually built for SCAF proto and a production line, SAFRAN need time. Not sure it is possible to meet Tejas 2 agenda.

There is also T-Rex M88 for Rafale F5.... no news so far, except that it is more and more evident that F5 will keep the actual Rafale frame, ie the T-Rex will ave the same overall dimensions than M88-2. Sure that new technologies will make T-Rex more powerfull than Legacy M88-2, but at what extent ? Not in the 98 KN league for sure.

 

[silentassassin265]

M88 was studied as a familly :

M88-2 : serially produced for Rafale.
M88-3 9Tons variant. Built and tested as prototyps (for UAE in a time, 2011, were they wanted a kind of super Rafale.
M88-4 : 10.5 Tons. Only a paper project.... except if it is this engine that is expected to power the SCAF prototyp. But between 2 prototyps to manually built for SCAF proto and a production line, SAFRAN need time. Not sure it is possible to meet Tejas 2 agenda.

There is also T-Rex M88 for Rafale F5.... no news so far, except that it is more and more evident that F5 will keep the actual Rafale frame, ie the T-Rex will ave the same overall dimensions than M88-2. Sure that new technologies will make T-Rex more powerfull than Legacy M88-2, but at what extent ? Not in the 98 KN league for sure.

Rd 33mk of mig29k can produce upto 90kn, it is enough for MK1A.
Mk2 will still need 10kn more, not sure if the thrust can be increased without russian help but at least it can help mk1a as chances of receiving f404 are slim to none.

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

What are BARCAPS?

View: https://x.com/hellfire_81/status/1930135166938120513

 

[FalconSlayers]

What are BARCAPS?

View: https://x.com/hellfire_81/status/1930135166938120513

Barrier combat air patrol

 

[BON PLAN]

Rd 33mk of mig29k can produce upto 90kn, it is enough for MK1A.
Mk2 will still need 10kn more, not sure if the thrust can be increased without russian help but at least it can help mk1a as chances of receiving f404 are slim to none.

What is the weight of RD33 ?
What dimensions ? does it fit the Tejas 2 frame?
life span is known to be shorter than western design.

=> Not a good option. Leave that to pak....

 

[redpanda]

What is the weight of RD33 ?
What dimensions ? does it fit the Tejas 2 frame?
life span is known to be shorter than western design.

=> Not a good option. Leave that to pak....

Yeah RD33 is the worst choice for an engine for Tejas. It's a smoke chimney with horrible fuel efficiency.

 

[silentassassin265]

Yeah RD33 is the worst choice for an engine for Tejas. It's a smoke chimney with horrible fuel efficiency.

Yes it's for worst case scenario if burgericans fails to deliver engine again.
EUrojet engine uses several us component so they can influence it too.
So only french option is left which is heavily underpowered

 

[silentassassin265]

What is the weight of RD33 ?
What dimensions ? does it fit the Tejas 2 frame?
life span is known to be shorter than western design.

=> Not a good option. Leave that to pak....

Weight is around 150kg higher and yes we will need to modify the airframes to accommodate that engine.
Burgericans had prevented china from getting any Western jet engine they might do same to us unless we buy their jets

 

[redpanda]

Yes it's for worst case scenario if burgericans fails to deliver engine again.
EUrojet engine uses several us component so they can influence it too.
So only french option is left which is heavily underpowered

If burgericans refused to sell us anything maybe we can go with AL-31FP for Mk2. But that too will require significant modification to airframe.

 

[ArjunMK1A]

HAL Officially rebute the IDRW article.


View: https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/1930228703570866345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1930228703570866345%7Ctwgr%5E4641d8b4bff9f7e64c2d88241feeb1aaf50b176a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.strategicfront.org%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Fgtre-kaveri-engine.93%2Fpage-67

 

[sameer]

HAL Officially rebute the IDRW article.


View: https://x.com/HALHQBLR/status/1930228703570866345?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1930228703570866345%7Ctwgr%5E4641d8b4bff9f7e64c2d88241feeb1aaf50b176a%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.strategicfront.org%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2Fgtre-kaveri-engine.93%2Fpage-67

A day without humiliation is a day wasted for Idrw.

 

[LastMythin]

A day without humiliation is a day wasted for Idrw.

is idrw ever correct?

 

[jaijaganath]

A day without humiliation is a day wasted for Idrw.

This news was planned my Moneycontrol
Idrw as usual added their own masala

 

[LastMythin]

This news was planned my Moneycontrol
Idrw as usual added their own masala

why? What is moneycontrol's angle here?

 

[Anants]

This news has defence implicati9n too as DS gets unfettered access to real time data of any part in India without Indian checks and balances(if there were any to begin wi5h in this domain)


View: https://x.com/MeghUpdates/status/1930310587155964022

 

[jaijaganath]

why? What is moneycontrol's angle here?

Don't know
Maybe lobbying

 

[silentassassin265]

If burgericans refused to sell us anything maybe we can go with AL-31FP for Mk2. But that too will require significant modification to airframe.

They won't refuse, they will just take our money and never delivere the product just like they are doing with f404.

Not sure if modifying russian engines will be easier for us than working on new kaveri

 

[maximus777]

They won't refuse, they will just take our money and never delivere the product just like they are doing with f404.

Not sure if modifying russian engines will be easier for us than working on new kaveri

Can it not be challenged in an American court based on the contract and punitive measures imposed for the delays? US judiciary is very efficient and with the right attorneys India can push the envelope if they have the balls to do it.