Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[concard]

That's 10 year old after that they bribed retired NATO pilots and were trained by them.
Invested heavily in LRAAM, AESA Radars , AWACS and EW systems.
Forget 10 years 5 years ago American EW(FA-18) toyed with a Chinese Destroyer using their extensive EW capability,PLAN destroyers failed to get a lock on Hornets and exactly a year ago Chinese showed exceptional networking Capability and got a lock on those FA-18 using Co-operative engagement in a EW heavy Environment.

Interesting. Do you have a source to back it up? What do you think J-20 in general? For me it looks too huge for a frontline fighter. At the same time I can understand what the designers were grappling with, they wanted a fighter big enough to cover their entire air space. It looks stealthy from the front but not sure from other angles. I don't think J-20 engines are powerful enough to exploit it's potential. What about it's AESA radar, EW capabilities?

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Ur argument that the F35 MDF serves as conspiratorial purpose is literally baseless..

MDF is not some mysterious nd conspiratorial element instead it's role is grounded in operational necessity...not speculative or nefarious purposes...lol as u seems to making it to be..It is developed in the USAF mission data load development nd Integration laboratory nd it is tailored for each operator’s needs.. as seen with countries like Israel, Japan, and South Korea..

Strawman Argument. I never said that MDF serve only a conspiratorial purpose and no tactical and operational purposes. Go read my comments again. And focus of my concern being with the fact that the "tailoring" you mention is an ongoing process throughout the product lifecycle and that this tailoring process being carried out in USA is the point I highlight as a problem.

Now coming on to isreali F35 adir contrary to ur claim..Israel has secured significant customization rights for its F-35I Adir..including partial access to the avionics architecture nd MDF to suit it's needs.. it negotiated the ability to integrate it's own electronic warfare systems.. guided bombs etc.. Israel also added a plug-nd-play feature to the F-35’s main computer..allowing the integration of it's indigenous electronics and external jamming pods... This customization effectively grants Israel enough operational autonomy as it's F-35I can use tailored threat libraries nd EW systems independent of the standard US provided MDF channel.. It has also secured enough control to adapt the F-35I to its needs..including modifying MDFs to address regional threats like Iranian nd Syrian air defenses..

The example of how isreal employed F35 to defeat Iran's layered ADS is below.

Israel’s F-35I Adir Took Down Iran’s Air Defenses from 100 Miles Away

Israel’s F-35I Adir demonstrated its advanced capabilities by neutralizing Iranian air defenses from over 100 miles away.

nationalsecurityjournal.org

F-35I Adir: The Isreali Fighter That Destroyed Iran’s Air Defenses

Israel’s customized F-35I Adir stealth fighter has proven highly effective, notably demonstrated by a significant strike in Iran following Iranian missile attacks in October.

www.19fortyfive.com

F35 is offered to india now the onus is on IAF nd GOI to negotiate on the same level like isreal did for their F35ADIR specially when the framework already exist for such modifications.

I for one only advocate for F35 Adir like capability nd no less. If govt fails to negotiate on the same level then obviously it won't go ahead with purchase. So we all can keep assuming while cooking rhetorics but as i hv said already we hv competent authorities in IAF nd GOI to take care of their core interest.

The links you gave make no mention of your claims that Israelis can avoid the MDF being sent back to USA, so please do provide a source. If you remember, our conversation started with me asking you whether or not the backend of the MDF processing is in Israeli hands. I asked you the question because I don't know and because I was hoping you'd have the answer. Because I know for a fact that other nations do not get to do the backend of MDF on their own.

Even if we can integrate our own avionics on the F35 just like the Israelis, but if the Americans still demand the data from our sensors on the pretext of optimizing libraries and targeting algorithms, that's still a major negative, a dealbreaker. But if the Israelis somehow get a pass at this, then its a good thing because then there is at least a snowball's chance in hell that we can buy the F35 on the same terms that the Israelis did.

Finally I'd like to reiterate that you please not take this personally. I'm not giving a blanket statement that "F-35 bad." I'm giving you my reasons of exactly why I'm apprehensive about it. If you can address those concerns by providing sources that point to the contrary, well and good. If you can't, let us just agree to disagree. Instead of keeping up this pingpong match of posting the same damn arguments back and forth and needlessly increasing the size of this thread for no reason at all. That's all.

 

[Gyyaan]

Interesting. Do you have a source to back it up? What do you think J-20 in general? For me it looks too huge for a frontline fighter. At the same time I can understand what the designers were grappling with, they wanted a fighter big enough to cover their entire air space. It looks stealthy from the front but not sure from other angles. I don't think J-20 engines are powerful enough to exploit it's potential. What about it's AESA radar, EW capabilities?

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk03RJCTWq8
(I can't find the original source, but M7 made a video on it)
About J20, it's a decent LO Air superiority fighter, IG.
Size is Inconsequential if you can mask your radar return to the required extent, so is manoeuvrability.
In the case of a J20, it was designed to be a long-range sniper, and that's what it is. (Lack of Gun goes to show what Chinkis had in mind when creating it)
Canards of J20 make such an angle that it reflects the radar waves away, its belly is smoother than F-35, one could call its belly underwhelming compared to F-35.
Engines' nozzles are serrated to minimise radar returns, Canards are serrated(IIRC, not sure about canard serration)
Modern fighters can control the angle of their canards to reduce radar return
Though not as stealthy, it has the same order of RCS return as the F-35 at least in frontal aspect and has a larger(about 1800+ T/R module antenna) 3rd gen AESA(claimed by the Chinese) and should have a decent EW capability(there is no way that huge ass plane got no Integrated(Internal) EW suite/Active stealth capability

F-35 vs J-20 vs Su-57 Summary

Introduction Previously, we have done HFSS simulation to evaluate the mean and median radar cross section as well as the radar scattering pattern of the four common stealth fighters namely F-35A, S…

basicsaboutaerodynamicsandavionics.wordpress.com

Also note that the median RCS is without RAM and all around, and not just frontal.
And the Newer J20 are coming in with WS-15 engines, can carry 6 PL-15 in IWB( Don't remember if it's with newer PL-15E missiles, if no, then this could go higher to 8 and goated side bay capable of carrying a total of 2WVR missiles

 

[Gyyaan]

I had read somewhere that Americans were using F117 for mimicking J 20 not F 35

Americans use F-35 for aggressor squadrons even for Russians, forget the Chinese.

 

[MarDePopins]

As far as i know iranian air defence isn't properly integrated and they certainly doesn't have anything same to our akashteer they do have decent air defence system which may or may not be more dense than indian one but it is certainly not better than ours there are alot of other things to it which makes an air defence system effective
I believe non of the air defence system is often 100% effective but even 5 gen aircraft will have hard time attacking net centric dense multi layered air defence system just for example india have deployed multiple radars to track launch of pakistani BM

Lol As far as i know?? Source of ur so called information??

U only have uninformed guess.. i hv already listed numerous SAM systems iran operates provide me the indian equivalent of their Bavar 373 sam.. we only hv akash nd Akash Ng now nd kusha will be only available in 28-29..

Nd dude akashteer is only a system of system it's not a magic system it connects various radars nd other sources to indian army for related firing solutios.. mind u Akashteer is only for army .. IAF has it's IACCS which distributes the info flow to army.

 

[FIELD MARSHAL SAHWNSTEIN]

Adding a foreign fifth gen fighter to our already Rainbow looking ragtag airforce fleet would be a monetary disaster.

Integrated indigenous weapon systems, as we literally just saw, is the way to go.

A stop gap, limited series foreign fifth gen fighter atop having just 36 rafales, is just retarded. Imagine the logistical nightmare and the number of foreign boots we would have to polish in case of a full scale war some of you guys are imagining.

The inbreds' air force didnt fly after the first day. Them getting a J35 would be a massive upgrade, but in ANY future situation they have to use it against us, we would have every right to make their forward bases look like the south pole of the moon.

We simply have to do jugaad to keep them at bay for the next 8-9 years. Tell me, are they gonna get the J-35 in large numbers before we get our brahmos NG mk1As to pummel their air bases? Project Kusha is also right around the corner. Also when do you think we would receive the first fifth gen fighters? We havent even started negotiating yet. We dont have a choice but to customize the hell out of whatever we will get to match our IACCS. How much time do you think that would take? Literally more than the development time of the AMCA. Rafales should be the only future import. EVER. Nothing else makes sense. We literally walked out of the su 57. If we werent impressed then, we would be even less impressed now given our radar, avionics industries. After the US bullshittery after OP sindoor, who TF in their right minds will trust those guys. We will be lucky if we get the F414s at this point. If we buy the f35, we will literally be handing them out entire air force on a platter. ALL our engines, MOST of our budget and future capability planning to a backstabbing, verrryyyy untrustworthy "ally". Might as well stop kanging about muh independapnt foreign policy at that point. Become the gora sahebs toy along with the pakis and fight and stop according to massah's wishes (imagine the embarrasment to our ancestors).

In case of a war with china, they are not gonna give two shits about 30-50 fifth gen fighters on our end. Only indigenous mass produced capability will deter them.

So in summary:

What we would gain by a stop gap 5th gen purchase:
1. Temporary parity for a period of 6-7 years IF the jets get delivered in 3 years (literally Impossible)
2. Closer ties to OEM country
3. Small chance of deterring jihadis or chinks (they dont get deterred by supposed wunderwaffles - their aim is political - even a loss will result in a field martial being born)

What we would lose:
1. Massive chunk of Spending on indigenous platform development
2. Logistical independence and simplicity
3. Sovereignty and self respect
4. The BIG picture in favor of a temporary window of deterrence (fingers crossed)

AGAIN, All of this is contingent on the jets being delivered in the next 3-4 years - which would be a bigger miracle than the 72 sexy transparent hoors being real.

 

[armyofhind]

Lol As far as i know?? Source of ur so called information??

U only have uninformed guess.. i hv already listed numerous SAM systems iran operates provide me the indian equivalent of their Bavar 373 sam.. we only hv akash nd Akash Ng now nd kusha will be only available in 28-29..

Nd dude akashteer is only a system of system it's not a magic system it connects various radars nd other sources to indian army for related firing solutios.. mind u Akashteer is only for army .. IAF has it's IACCS which distributes the info flow to army.

Akashteer is integrated into the IACCS btw.

 

[MarDePopins]

Strawman Argument. I never said that MDF serve only a conspiratorial purpose and no tactical and operational purposes. Go read my comments again. And focus of my concern being with the fact that the "tailoring" you mention is an ongoing process throughout the product lifecycle and that this tailoring process being carried out in USA is the point I highlight as a problem.



The links you gave make no mention of your claims that Israelis can avoid the MDF being sent back to USA, so please do provide a source. If you remember, our conversation started with me asking you whether or not the backend of the MDF processing is in Israeli hands. I asked you the question because I don't know and because I was hoping you'd have the answer. Because I know for a fact that other nations do not get to do the backend of MDF on their own.

Even if we can integrate our own avionics on the F35 just like the Israelis, but if the Americans still demand the data from our sensors on the pretext of optimizing libraries and targeting algorithms, that's still a major negative, a dealbreaker. But if the Israelis somehow get a pass at this, then its a good thing because then there is at least a snowball's chance in hell that we can buy the F35 on the same terms that the Israelis did.

Finally I'd like to reiterate that you please not take this personally. I'm not giving a blanket statement that "F-35 bad." I'm giving you my reasons of exactly why I'm apprehensive about it. If you can address those concerns by providing sources that point to the contrary, well and good. If you can't, let us just agree to disagree. Instead of keeping up this pingpong match of posting the same damn arguments back and forth and needlessly increasing the size of this thread for no reason at all. That's all.

Oki i get it ur whole argument is based on rhetorics mirred with semantics of murica bad. When ur whole reading of geopolitics is perposterous than its bound to reflect in empty rhetorics nd stratagems.

See the murica bad jargons will sell high among defence nerds because Nationalist flavour is high but the realpolitiks is a different reality when compared to the ecochambers.

Like it or laothe it GOI is cooperating nd partnering with Murica more nd more nd u being apprehensive of any weapon sale of Murica to india because of some stratagem (like Murica demanding data from sensors will be deal breaker lol) won't mean anything in real world.

Instead regular MDF updation during exercise with USAF will massively help IAF with corresponding with respect to ever-changing dynamic threat it faces from PLAAF nd PAF for example -

What Do The Rapid Updates The U.S. Provided To Israel’s F-35s Entail?

On Wednesday, a Pentagon official confirmed that the U.S. scrambled to provide new capabilities to Israel’s F-35Is after the Hamas attacks. What might they be?

www.forbes.com

From the article above -
"While the IAF (Isreali air force) regularly updates its own threat libraries, it does not have access to some of the more exquisite intelligence gathered by American space, aerial, and terrestrial platforms and human intelligence".


So if GOI had to function at the whims of some random defence nerd coping on murica bad then it wouldn't hv signed 10 yr defence partnership framework with same america. Read below links nd update urself to come to a rationale instead of coping on some rhetorics.

New 10-yr partnership framework to F-35s to Javelin missiles: Major boost to India-US defence ties

India is one of the largest exercise partners for the US.

indianexpress.com

"With their strategic cooperation straddling sectors from defence to high-tech, US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi launched a new initiative, the ‘US-India COMPACT (Catalyzing Opportunities for Military Partnership, Accelerated Commerce & Technology) for the 21st Century’, to “drive transformative change across key pillars of cooperation”.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/amp/story/nation/2025/Feb/14/f-35-jets-to-undersea-systems-key-details-of-india-us-defense-pact-unveiled-after-modi-trump-meet.

"The U.S. is further reviewing its policy on the release of fifth-generation fighter jets, such as the F-35, and advanced undersea systems to India—potentially deepening strategic defence ties."

Army Chief lauds '10-year plan' for India-US defence deals, says will boost defence production

Army Chief General Upendra Dwivedi commended India-US defence deals, highlighting their benefits for India's defence production and self-reliance. Following PM Modi's US visit, a new 10-year defence framework aims to strengthen ties. Plans include joint production initiatives, procurement of...

m.economictimes.com

"This review is expected to facilitate smoother defence trade, technology sharing, and the maintenance and repair of US-provided defence systems in India, as India's status as a 'Strategic Trade Authorization-1 (STA-1)' as well as a QUAD partner further solidified its position for defence cooperation with the US.

The two countries also agreed to initiate negotiations for a 'Reciprocal Defence Procurement' (RDP) agreement, which would align their defence procurement systems and allow the reciprocal supply of defence goods and services."

So as things stands F35 is indeed coming.. nd as i said it earlier ur apprehension or coping would mean zilch to GOI nd IAF. we have competent authorities out there to take care of our interests while dealing with USA.

 

[MarDePopins]

Akashteer is integrated into the IACCS btw.

I know very well.. " IAF has it's IACCS which distributes the info flow to army"
Read carefully

 

[armyofhind]

I know very well.. " IAF has it's IACCS which distributes the info flow to army"
Read carefully

Akashteer is integrated into the IACCS.
The information flows both ways.

Radar assets of IAF and Army share the info to create a full picture of the airspace is what I meant. Then, based on what offensive assets are available, targeting solutions are automatically decided and delegated to the nearest available unit for engagement with some manual input on the final authority.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Oki i get it ur whole argument is based on rhetorics mirred with semantics of murica bad. When ur whole reading of geopolitics is perposterous than its bound to reflect in empty rhetorics nd stratagems.

See the murica bad jargons will sell high among defence nerds because Nationalist flavour is high but the realpolitiks is a different reality when compared to the ecochambers.

Like it or laothe it GOI is cooperating nd partnering with Murica more nd more nd u being apprehensive of any weapon sale of Murica to india because of some stratagem (like Murica demanding data from sensors will be deal breaker lol) won't mean anything in real world.

Instead regular MDF updation during exercise with USAF will massively help IAF with corresponding threat it faces with respect to ever-changing dynamic threat it faces from PLAAF nd PAF for example -

What Do The Rapid Updates The U.S. Provided To Israel’s F-35s Entail?

On Wednesday, a Pentagon official confirmed that the U.S. scrambled to provide new capabilities to Israel’s F-35Is after the Hamas attacks. What might they be?

www.forbes.com

From the article above -
"While the IAF (Isreali air force) regularly updates its own threat libraries, it does not have access to some of the more exquisite intelligence gathered by American space, aerial, and terrestrial platforms and human intelligence".


So if GOI had to function at the whims of some random defence nerd coping on murica bad then it wouldn't hv signed 10 yr defence partnership framework with same america. Read below links nd update urself to come to a rationale instead of coping on some rhetorics.

New 10-yr partnership framework to F-35s to Javelin missiles: Major boost to India-US defence ties

India is one of the largest exercise partners for the US.

indianexpress.com

"With their strategic cooperation straddling sectors from defence to high-tech, US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi launched a new initiative, the ‘US-India COMPACT (Catalyzing Opportunities for Military Partnership, Accelerated Commerce & Technology) for the 21st Century’, to “drive transformative change across key pillars of cooperation”.

https://www.newindianexpress.com/amp/story/nation/2025/Feb/14/f-35-jets-to-undersea-systems-key-details-of-india-us-defense-pact-unveiled-after-modi-trump-meet.

"The U.S. is further reviewing its policy on the release of fifth-generation fighter jets, such as the F-35, and advanced undersea systems to India—potentially deepening strategic defence ties."

Army Chief lauds '10-year plan' for India-US defence deals, says will boost defence production

Army Chief General Upendra Dwivedi commended India-US defence deals, highlighting their benefits for India's defence production and self-reliance. Following PM Modi's US visit, a new 10-year defence framework aims to strengthen ties. Plans include joint production initiatives, procurement of...

m.economictimes.com

"This review is expected to facilitate smoother defence trade, technology sharing, and the maintenance and repair of US-provided defence systems in India, as India's status as a 'Strategic Trade Authorization-1 (STA-1)' as well as a QUAD partner further solidified its position for defence cooperation with the US.

The two countries also agreed to initiate negotiations for a 'Reciprocal Defence Procurement' (RDP) agreement, which would align their defence procurement systems and allow the reciprocal supply of defence goods and services."

So as things stands F35 is indeed coming.. nd as i said it earlier ur apprehension or coping would mean zilch to GOI nd IAF. we have competent authorities out there to take care of our interests while dealing with USA.

So you agree that if India buys the F35, we will have to share our data with the Americans. Now you have moved on to proving that it's not a bad thing and that I am evil for suggesting otherwise.

Okay, then.

Finally we are on the same page regarding F35.
Alas we aren't on the same page regarding the prudence of automatic sharing of our electronic signatures with the Americans. That's fine. This disagreement, unlike the one on F35, stems not from something objective like a technical point, but rather from something subjective. Since its subjective, its not resolvable. So I think I'll just agree to disagree on this point.

One last time though, buddy. You seem to be taking this very personaly. Chill out a bit. You are seeing things in binary. Just because I don't want us to buy F35 in its current form doesn't mean I'm "coping on murica bad." Don't let your confirmation bias make a mockery out of your intellect. I've seen your comments on many threads, you're an intelligent guy, act like it.

Akashteer is integrated into the IACCS.
The information flows both ways.

Radar assets of IAF and Army share the info to create a full picture of the airspace is what I meant. Then, based on what offensive assets are available, targeting solutions are automatically decided and delegated to the nearest available unit for engagement with some manual input on the final authority.

Wonder if Akashteer allows for cooperative engagement between IA assets and IAF ones.

 

[MarDePopins]

Akashteer is integrated into the IACCS.
The information flows both ways.

Radar assets of IAF and Army share the info to create a full picture of the airspace is what I meant. Then, based on what offensive assets are available, targeting solutions are automatically decided and delegated to the nearest available unit for engagement with some manual input on the final authority.

Again that's well known but ur understanding is wrong IACCS is more comprehensive nd at large scale then akashteer.. IACCS utilise all the datas collected from Radars(IAF has more radars including BMD radars), Sams, fighter aircrafts, Awacs.. it covers pan India situational awareness nd is a strategic system.

While Akashteer is meant for indian army AD units deployed in border region to enhance response time wrt to target.. thus it's a tactical level system which is not even delivered in full no yet.

 

[armyofhind]

Again that's well known but ur understanding is wrong IACCS is more comprehensive nd at large scale then akashteer.. IACCS utilise all the datas collected from Radars(IAF has more radars including BMD radars), Sams, fighter aircrafts, Awacs.. it covers pan India situational awareness nd is a strategic system.

While Akashteer is meant for indian army AD units deployed in border region to enhance response time wrt to target.. thus it's a tactical level system which is not even delivered in full no yet.

It's well known but you wrote something else, which is why I wrote my post in the first place.

The entire system is integrated. Data on everything flows both ways. Not from IACCS to Akashteer as you had originally written.

IAF has sensors more calibrated towards detection of strategic level threats, while Army has sensors for tactical ones.
Data on both is shared between systems to make a complete picture of the battlespace.

It's a decentralised system, which makes it high survivable as well, this is especially true for Akashteer. Taking out a few command nodes by the enemy has no tangible detrimental effect on the system as a whole.

 

[armyofhind]

So you agree that if India buys the F35, we will have to share our data with the Americans. Now you have moved on to proving that it's not a bad thing and that I am evil for suggesting otherwise.

Okay, then.

Finally we are on the same page regarding F35.
Alas we aren't on the same page regarding the prudence of automatic sharing of our electronic signatures with the Americans. That's fine. This disagreement, unlike the one on F35, stems not from something objective like a technical point, but rather from something subjective. Since its subjective, its not resolvable. So I think I'll just agree to disagree on this point.

One last time though, buddy. You seem to be taking this very personaly. Chill out a bit. You are seeing things in binary. Just because I don't want us to buy F35 in its current form doesn't mean I'm "coping on murica bad." Don't let your confirmation bias make a mockery out of your intellect. I've seen your comments on many threads, you're an intelligent guy, act like it.



Wonder if Akashteer allows for cooperative engagement between IA assets and IAF ones.

Details on cooperative engagement are not fully known yet I think.

But, as a concept, it's very viable and I'm sure the system would allow for it as well, since MRSAM and Akash are two common SAM platforms operated by both Army and AF.

How IAF, Army are moving towards jointness with integration of air defence systems

Army’s Akashteer air defence system has been integrated with Integrated Air Command & Control System (IACCS) for one site, it is learnt. For other sites, integration is in progress.

theprint.in

 

[MarDePopins]

So you agree that if India buys the F35, we will have to share our data with the Americans. Now you have moved on to proving that it's not a bad thing and that I am evil for suggesting otherwise.

Okay, then.

Finally we are on the same page regarding F35.
Alas we aren't on the same page regarding the prudence of automatic sharing of our electronic signatures with the Americans. That's fine. This disagreement, unlike the one on F35, stems not from something objective like a technical point, but rather from something subjective. Since its subjective, its not resolvable. So I think I'll just agree to disagree on this point.

One last time though, buddy. You seem to be taking this very personaly. Chill out a bit. You are seeing things in binary. Just because I don't want us to buy F35 in its current form doesn't mean I'm "coping on murica bad." Don't let your confirmation bias make a mockery out of your intellect. I've seen your comments on many threads, you're an intelligent guy, act like it.



Wonder if Akashteer allows for cooperative engagement between IA assets and IAF ones.

Sure no offense intended ..i won't resort to clubbing u among emotional peeps who jump high with jargon mirred with nationalistic fervor.

There are only few peeps here who analyze the situation based on rationale instead of resorting to rhetorics.

Now my only point is with ever changing geopolitics nd threat dynamic india currently faces from China as well as it's lackey Paxtan.. where china is providing it with real time satellite intelligence to harm india as witnessesd during ops Sindoor..it's a really vicious scenario.

Thus peeps who are missing woods for the trees don't realise the real enemy is China not Paxtan.. china has already opened a pandora box while assisting terrorist state paxtan nd providing it with their state of the art tech including 5th gen fighters. Every step china takes to harm india directly or indirectly will make india more so nervous with it's relationship (based on trade) with the CCP.

Thus going further it will naturally make india to align more so with USA cause USA is also a major party to contain china expansionist design to change world order..however this doesn't mean india will not act in it's interest when dealing with USA nd will offer it's sovereignty for just few pieces of F35..

GOI will act on it's interest while dealing with anyone be it USA, france or Russia.

But interesting times ahead.. with two clear blocks forming where one side is lead by China nd other being USA nd in between india finds itself trying to balance the relationship with both but for how long?

 

[MarDePopins]

It's well known but you wrote something else, which is why I wrote my post in the first place.

The entire system is integrated. Data on everything flows both ways. Not from IACCS to Akashteer as you had originally written.

IAF has sensors more calibrated towards detection of strategic level threats, while Army has sensors for tactical ones.
Data on both is shared between systems to make a complete picture of the battlespace.

It's a decentralised system, which makes it high survivable as well, this is especially true for Akashteer. Taking out a few command nodes by the enemy has no tangible detrimental effect on the system as a whole.

My understanding for entire AD battle space is based on the DGMO briefing where IACCS is the main node while information flowing to different nodes under it including Akashteer.. however i don't deny that information can't flow both ways.. but my moot point was that IACCS is the main node distributing information across.

Here check for urself.

 

[Ajatshatru]

View: https://youtu.be/pzlU9X8lu8I?si=AHDpoC9T0brJKcZx

 

[Drwho]

Any one heard of this new news ?
Asli teja kaun hai ? Mark kidhar hai.

what is this new drama? Of india and Japan development and Jv of sixth gen fighter?
Many porki channels are shitting their pants. About it .

I don’t know what we should support. Naye naye dhol baj rahe hai . Abhi f35 vs su57 vs lca hua nahi tha ab ye naya drama. F xx
Ab hum kis topic pe lade yaha forum per?

All of sudden so many fighter options and none at the same time .

 

[silentassassin265]

Any one heard of this new news ?
Asli teja kaun hai ? Mark kidhar hai.

what is this new drama? Of india and Japan development and Jv of sixth gen fighter?
Many porki channels are shitting their pants. About it .

I don’t know what we should support. Naye naye dhol baj rahe hai . Abhi f35 vs su57 vs lca hua nahi tha ab ye naya drama. F xx
Ab hum kis topic pe lade yaha forum per?

All of sudden so many fighter options and none at the same time .

Japan literally has written in their constitution that they can't sell weapons, they were unwilling to sell millitary transport aircraft too

 

[username unkown]

Lol As far as i know?? Source of ur so called information??

U only have uninformed guess.. i hv already

How Come Iran’s Air Defences Succumbed on 26 Oct 2024? A Brief Analysis – CENJOWS

cenjows.in

You said iran had integrated ADS why don't you give me sauce

Lol As far as i know?? Source of ur so called information??

U only have uninformed guess.. i hv already listed numerous SAM systems iran operates provide me the indian equivalent of their Bavar 373 sam.. we only hv akash nd Akash Ng now nd kusha will be only available in 28-29..

Nd dude akashteer is only a system of system it's not a magic system it connects various radars nd other sources to indian army for related firing solutios.. mind u Akashteer is only for army .. IAF has it's IACCS which distributes the info flow to army.

" we only have Kash and aksh ng "
Zu23,l 70, shilka, soft kill system<igla < samar ADS<osa AK< pechora<spyder<akash<mrsam<s400
"Indian equivalent to bavar 373 "
S 400 and kusha incoming
Numerous sam operating doesn't equal to better air situation picture
Info flows through akashteer and iaccs in both ways
Iran is ultimate cuck everyone strike them