Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (12 Viewers)

[shade2]

Gone are the days we are going to send foot soldiers to fight on behalf of others last we did was before independence under British Raj. One thing Nehru did right is non alignment policy which may hindered our growth back then but absolutely gold right now. We are rising power now no need to behave like a lap dog of west for some candies . We can take on China on our own if situation arise and pak we already fucked them. We have to grow and became self reliant in defence which is the only constraint now.

I know it's not possible just writing out their angle.

As some guy said above they see other countries as only tools/assets/condoms to be used and thrown and numberless warm bodies for both dying in war and producing arms in factories is our utility for the Americunts

 

[Gandaberunda]

I know it's not possible just writing out their angle.

As some guy said above they see other countries as only tools/assets/condoms to be used and thrown and numberless warm bodies for both dying in war and producing arms in factories is our utility for the Americunts

Americunts know we ain’t Pakistanis so they’re desperately meddling in Myanmar and kangladesh to make them their next bitches like porkies to use against Wumaos and that also helps to keep us in check. They don’t want another China like situation with us in next 30 years

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

This means that lca mk1a deliveries will go on till 2033-34.
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Even if its tentative, its worrying

thats why i m saying these additional order of 97 tejas mark 1a will also slide tejas 2 delivery in air force. now dont expect tejas mark 2 will come before 2033 in air force.
expect AMCA nd TEDBF (if its program carry on) in between 2035 nd 2040 (if nothing bad happen).

 

[Gandaberunda]

When Putin is offering local manufacturing why this guy speculating off the shelf?

View: https://x.com/idrwalerts/status/1932760878006612068?s=46

 

[liberalredditor]

thats why i m saying these additional order of 97 tejas mark 1a will also slide tejas 2 delivery in air force. now dont expect tejas mark 2 will come before 2033 in air force.
expect AMCA nd TEDBF (if its program carry on) in between 2035 nd 2040 (if nothing bad happen).

If MoD babus and rajnath give proper belt treatment to hal, then mk2 deliveries cab even start from 2031-32 with 30 units per year, but the thing is they wont.

Let hal build the prototypes but give a portion to pvt sector, it would be much easier for them and then they will be able to go with amca production too

Need of the decade is 400+ tejas mk2 with iteration wise upgrades like mk2 and mk2a

 

[snakeeyes07]

thats why i m saying these additional order of 97 tejas mark 1a will also slide tejas 2 delivery in air force. now dont expect tejas mark 2 will come before 2033 in air force.
expect AMCA nd TEDBF (if its program carry on) in between 2035 nd 2040 (if nothing bad happen).

There are 3 HAL production lines (2 in Bangalore & 1 in Nashik) for LCA mk1a, so by 2029, one of these lines could be rejigged for mk2. Existing lines could be expanded to maintain mk1a production rate or new lines can come up by then.

 

[randombully]

There are 3 HAL production lines (2 in Bangalore & 1 in Nashik) for LCA mk1a, so by 2029, one of these lines could be rejigged for mk2. Existing lines could be expanded to maintain mk1a production rate or new lines can come up by then.

All good.
Just hope ge can maintain engine production rate to match the order.

 

[liberalredditor]

There are 3 HAL production lines (2 in Bangalore & 1 in Nashik) for LCA mk1a, so by 2029, one of these lines could be rejigged for mk2. Existing lines could be expanded to maintain mk1a production rate or new lines can come up by then.

Maybe hal can make a completely new production facility but we shouldnt support it, first hal should make the existing facilities ie bangalore, nashik, koraput, tumkuru and kanpur world class

Pvt sector should get a big chunk of mk2 work

 

[Cereal Killer]

When Putin is offering local manufacturing why this guy speculating off the shelf?

View: https://x.com/idrwalerts/status/1932760878006612068?s=46

Idrw is unreliable

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

There are 3 HAL production lines (2 in Bangalore & 1 in Nashik) for LCA mk1a, so by 2029, one of these lines could be rejigged for mk2. Existing lines could be expanded to maintain mk1a production rate or new lines can come up by then.

bro we hv 16 aircraft per year production unit capabilities since 2018 (approx). but in our 83 tejas mark 1a order in 2021, we gave them order to bring 8 aircrafts per year in starting delivery from 2024. if we hv capabilities to deliver 16 aircraft per year, then why dont they order to deliver 16 aircrafts from 2024? coz air force hv to pay even more for faster delivery. so dont think if we will hv 30-32 aircraft production capability, without huge orders number they will deliver it. it depend on air force order also..when they want, in which cost nd how much they want per year.

thats why i dont care about low aircraft squad number etc...our air force nd government isnt in hurry. otherwise they can increase capacity to deliver more fighters per year, by paying more. but they didnt. they r taking their sweet time in decisions etc.

 

[redpanda]

Maybe hal can make a completely new production facility but we shouldnt support it, first hal should make the existing facilities ie bangalore, nashik, koraput, tumkuru and kanpur world class

Pvt sector should get a big chunk of mk2 work

Could always bring a private player while the production happens as co-integrator.

 

[Anonymous Bharata]

Anons, a purely theoretical question, is possible to redesign Tejas-Mk2 rear fuselage to accomodate two Uprated HTFE-25 Afterburner variant engines?

Twin Uprated HTFE-25s with 32KN dry & 50KN wet can easily power Tejas-Mk2

As of now HTFE-25's TET is 1450K, it can be increased to 1700-1800K using indigenous DMS4 , this will uprate HTFE-25's dry thrust to 32KN, without changing its dia, Adding an AB will take it's wet thrust to 50KN easily

 

[randombully]

bro we hv 16 aircraft per year production unit capabilities since 2018 (approx). but in our 83 tejas mark 1a order in 2021, we gave them order to bring 8 aircrafts per year in starting delivery from 2024. if we hv capabilities to deliver 16 aircraft per year, then why dont they order to deliver 16 aircrafts from 2024? coz air force hv to pay even more for faster delivery. so dont think if we will hv 30-32 aircraft production capability, without huge orders number they will deliver it. it depend on air force order also..when they want, in which cost nd how much they want per year.

No.
It's engine issue.
Ge said it will take time to scale up production rate to 24 engines per year.

They promised 12 engines this year.

 

[randombully]

Anons, a purely theoretical question, is possible to redesign Tejas-Mk2 rear fuselage to accomodate two Uprated HTFE-25 Afterburner variant engines?

Twin Uprated HTFE-25s with 32KN dry & 50KN wet can easily power Tejas-Mk2

As of now HTFE-25's TET is 1450K, it can be increased to 1700-1800K using indigenous DMS4 , this will uprate HTFE-25's dry thrust to 32KN, without changing its dia, Adding an AB will take it's wet thrust to 50KN easily

Bc, kya fuuk ra hai?

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

No.
It's engine issue.
Ge said it will take time to scale up production rate to 24 engines per year.

They promised 12 engines this year.

i m talking about 83 tejas mark 1a order in 2021...air force were ready to get delivery of 8 aircrafts from HAL in 2024. later years they increase their aircraft delivery.
so if GE promised to deliver 12 engine during deal in 2021 from 2024. why HAL nd airforce ready to deliver only 8 aircrafts in 2024? although we hv capability to produce 16 aircraft per year. atleast HAL should deliver 12 tejas mark 1a from 2024.
engine issue surfaced on news from 2023, not during 2021 deal.

 

[RedPhantom]

When Putin is offering local manufacturing why this guy speculating off the shelf?

View: https://x.com/idrwalerts/status/1932760878006612068?s=46

Don't the Russians already have backlogs of the Su-57?

What is the "haal" of their HAL(KnAAZ)? Are they facing any engine unavailability issues?

 

[randombully]

i m talking about 83 tejas mark 1a order in 2021...air force were ready to get delivery of 8 aircrafts from HAL in 2024. later years they increase their aircraft delivery.
so if GE promised to deliver 12 engine during deal in 2021 from 2024. why HAL nd airforce ready to deliver only 8 aircrafts in 2024? although we hv capability to produce 16 aircraft per year. atleast HAL should deliver 12 tejas mark 1a from 2024.
engine issue surfaced on news from 2023, not during 2021 deal.

Ge promised to provide 12 engines this year.
First engine for 83 tejasmk1a order in 2021, just got delivered previous month in 2025.

 

[silentassassin265]

There are 3 HAL production lines (2 in Bangalore & 1 in Nashik) for LCA mk1a, so by 2029, one of these lines could be rejigged for mk2. Existing lines could be expanded to maintain mk1a production rate or new lines can come up by then.

If we buy su57 all 3 lines will be open as we won't we getting any burgerican jet engine anymore.

Even without new engine we can just use older engines from protocol and upgrade existing mk1 to mk1a which will get us 31+15 aircrafts, enough to replace mig 21

 

[randombully]

If we buy su57 all 3 lines will be open as we won't we getting any burgerican jet engine anymore.

Even without new engine we can just use older engines from protocol and upgrade existing mk1 to mk1a which will get us 31+15 aircrafts, enough to replace mig 21

If some was given for kaveri, we can atleast replace f404 domestically, dry thrust is already there.

For tejas mk2 and amca mk1 100kn varient of m88.

 

[silentassassin265]

If some was given for kaveri, we can atleast replace f404 domestically, dry thrust is already there.

For tejas mk2 and amca mk1 100kn varient of m88.

More funding wouldn't have helped as we don't possess the knowledge and technology for metallurgy in after burning turbofan engine.

Instead of directly making Kaveri we should have made smaller turbofan engines and dry variants to gain experience