Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (33 Viewers)

[randombully]

Turks make a portion of the fuselage, if we're buying this, it may be a problem if the Turks have a veto on the sale.



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they won't.
Second, we will be the ones making that portion of the fuselage and entirety of the fuselage if the deal happens.
Turks operate 10 A400m and decided to buy them when development was happening, hence got manufacturing of rear fuselage.
We will be buying 60-80 a400ms.
It's not like airbus lacks any technology or industrial capablity if turks refuses to supply the part.

 

[liberalredditor]

chini s400 is capped at 290 km due to mtcr, we can very well even use rudram 2 from aircrafts other than su30 mki to strike s400 of chowmeinpuram.

 

[redpanda]

Turks make a portion of the fuselage, if we're buying this, it may be a problem if the Turks have a veto on the sale.



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Good opportunity to get into the supply chain of A400M for some our dhando folks. We already have companies with experience of making fuselage.

 

[redpanda]

View: https://x.com/Parthu_Potluri/status/1939577122487701608

That reminds me Adani delivered Rudram-II to DRDL recently.

 

[Interested]

The recent news of the lack of Meteor missiles in the IAF is shocking .

Sad seeing that a country with an economy 10 times smaller than us and a comparative smaller sized military budget continues to have A2A missiles with longer ranges than the IAF. This was exactly what happened in 2019 and still remains the same in 2025. They also have more AWEC's for good measure .

Also the answer can't be what the IAF did after May 6th night when they activated th S400 radars to keep the PAF grounded and far away from the border . The more electronic signature from radars is sent out the easier it's to evade them the next time . This will not work the next time and also make the S400 a target for jamming and attack .

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/Platypuss_10/status/1939585128638128352


View: https://x.com/Platypuss_10/status/1939621438010597627

One Q, is it dangerous to have more than 2 planes refuelling at the same time like this?

 

[Interested]

They lost 3 awacs, ( 2 to India, 2 to militants, 1 damaged by militants was repaired) out of their fleet of 9 saab awacs in service.
So 6 awacs remaining.

They also have 4 zdk-03 awacs from China, which were Reassigned to secondary ESM, ECM role from AEW&C role in 2024, though how many are flying or if they are flying at all is unknown.

I read somewhere that the Chinese AWEC have been retired and the airframes are used for transport purposes ... something to do with the Mirages and F16's could not be integrated plus general bad performance.

 

[Interested]

View: https://x.com/Platypuss_10/status/1939585128638128352


View: https://x.com/Platypuss_10/status/1939621438010597627

One Q, is it dangerous to have more than 2 planes refuelling at the same time like this?

Not anymore dangerous that one plane being refueled . The refueling probe is set to break loose with the fuel flow stopping immediately incase there is a problem with the any of the planes losing altitude or speed .

 

[Interested]

it would be much better to buy the blueprints from antonov and give it to pvt firms for production and let drdo do experiments on it with awacs or refueller or anything.

but in reality it would be better to acquire c390 in medium transporter category, they are in need of money and would even offer local manufacturing, but c17 class cargo plane is difficult, illusion aircrafts have spares and availability issues, and c17 is out of production, iaf can check out il476 but those wouldnt be much of a next level upgrade to il76, there isnt any competitor to c17, or maybe we should request dolund to restart c17 production as jiziya

summary - our procurement is in ram naam satya hai condition

We are 30 years too late . Antonov would have sold the blueprints in the 90's when Russia was in dire straits . The Chinese bought a lot of stuff then including engine tech and even hired ex Soviet scientists to help their own programs . They are now reaping the benefits of it .

But as usual , we didn't take the opportunity . I heard the local 'govt talent ' was hell bent against hiring the Russian technical staff back then .

 

[liberalredditor]

i am never believing that tu160 has same rcs as su30 mki and b1 lancer has rcs less than rafale, these burgerscums manipulate the social media so much

 

[Interested]

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i am never believing that tu160 has same rcs as su30 mki and b1 lancer has rcs less than rafale, these burgerscums manipulate the social media so much

You know, they make these tall claims but the Americans have never flown their 5th Gen planes against any half decent AD .

Even against 3rd class militaries, they do a complete SEAD using cruise missiles by the hundreds and stand off missiles before their planes even enter contested airspace . You can claim anything but how will a F35 or B2 do against a S400 battery ... no one knows .

 

[liberalredditor]

You know, they make these tall claims but the Americans have never flown their 5th Gen planes against any half decent AD .

Even against 3rd class militaries, they do a complete SEAD using cruise missiles by the hundreds and stand off missiles before their planes even enter contested airspace . You can claim anything but how will a F35 or B2 do against a S400 battery ... no one knows .

obviously that will never happen till burgerica will use its proxies to fight vodkanagar. only when they have a direct clash, maybe they will use f15 or f18 to get an idea, you saw f22 is retiring without a single kill, if you leave aside the brave balloon shot aside. f35 will see the ad and 4.5 gen aircrafts because soon iran would get s400 and su35 to tackle israel.
lets see what happens in future, but i aint getting in the trap that f22 is the most advanced fighter, 1990 made fighter it is, it wont stand against rafale f3r and f4, its just its stealth shaped, its avionics and 5th gen subsytems and ew would get cooked by any decent 4.5 gen aircraft.

 

[randombully]

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i am never believing that tu160 has same rcs as su30 mki and b1 lancer has rcs less than rafale, these burgerscums manipulate the social media so much

the newer russian tu160m2 swan/blackjack has rcs below 3m2 from frontal aspect( with spikes in rcs from certain angles like any other aircraft).
Original tu160 had rcs of 10-15 m2 from frontal aspects.


The American b1b lancer have rcs of 1-2m2 from frontal aspect.

 

[randombully]

I read somewhere that the Chinese AWEC have been retired and the airframes are used for transport purposes ... something to do with the Mirages and F16's could not be integrated plus general bad performance.

They would need to replace all the internal systems to use them for transport purpose, and also remove that radom as it will be a dead weight.
From the news coming out of pakistan, they are moving them to use them in EW role.

 

[shade2]

the newer russian tu160m2 swan/blackjack has rcs below 3m2 from frontal aspect( with spikes in rcs from certain angles like any other aircraft).
Original tu160 had rcs of 10-15 m2 from frontal aspects.


The American b1b lancer have rcs of 1-2m2 from frontal aspect.

On the topic of bombers, do we have a need for Russian Tu160 or Tu22.

I was thinking if we had to for reals hit Paki nuclear storage sites to disable them, in that context

Also against China would these be useful? the Tu160 apparently carries cruise missiles

 

[randombully]

On the topic of bombers, do we have a need for Russian Tu160 or Tu22.

I was thinking if we had to for reals hit Paki nuclear storage sites to disable them, in that context

Also against China would these be useful? the Tu160 apparently carries cruise missiles

A nice addition to our capabilities, but not a necessary need.
Can think about them when we have bigger economy in 2030s.
Right now If we have the money to buy the bombers, then there are more important capabilities we can & should invest that money into instead.

 

[Interested]

On the topic of bombers, do we have a need for Russian Tu160 or Tu22.

I was thinking if we had to for reals hit Paki nuclear storage sites to disable them, in that context

Also against China would these be useful? the Tu160 apparently carries cruise missiles

We don't need dedicated bombers against Pakistani . The country is so shallow that we can reach every bit of it with stand off missiles from jets as proven during OP Sindoor. And we don't have any missiles or bombs which the SU 30 can't carry

Against China ..,, it depends on what we are preparing for . Are we going to fight a full blown war with them . I don't think so.

 

[Brood Father]

We don't need dedicated bombers against Pakistani . The country is so shallow that we can reach every bit of it with stand off missiles from jets as proven during OP Sindoor. And we don't have any missiles or bombs which the SU 30 can't carry

Against China ..,, it depends on what we are preparing for . Are we going to fight a full blown war with them . I don't think so.

You don't need bomber for Pak but you need bombers to protect your naval assets and if you are planning to a have a blue water Navy you need bombers at least for Navy.

 

[Interested]

You don't need bomber for Pak but you need bombers to protect your naval assets and if you are planning to a have a blue water Navy you need bombers at least for Navy.

Not against Pakistan , the only PN asset which will leave harbor are their submarines in an active war situation as anything else will be a crap shoot for the IN

 

[shade2]

You don't need bomber for Pak but you need bombers to protect your naval assets and if you are planning to a have a blue water Navy you need bombers at least for Navy.

Not against Pakistan , the only PN asset which will leave harbor are their submarines in an active war situation as anything else will be a crap shoot for the IN

He means Chongs i guess.

Chongs use their H-6 as hypersonic/ALBM carriers to use against US aircraft carriers