Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (48 Viewers)

[DancingPeacock]

Note that every batmunchers talking point is about few jets shot down and not Pakis bases being gangbanged Or their HQ-9 being a dud or how their PL-15s were found intact. If we for example assume 10 Rafales are shot down, only jaahils and batmunchers think that's a victory compared to blasting Kirana Hills.

If Russia shoots down F-22 but America bombs all Russian Bases whom the world thinks won?

If India shoots down J-20 but China bombs Indian Air Bases, not even the most jingoistic Indian thinks its a victory.

 

[Drwho]

Note that every batmunchers talking point is about few jets shot down and not Pakis bases being gangbanged Or their HQ-9 being a dud or how their PL-15s were found intact. If we for example assume 10 Rafales are shot down, only jaahils and batmunchers think that's a victory compared to blasting Kirana Hills.

If Russia shoots down F-22 but America bombs all Russian Bases whom the world thinks won?

If India shoots down J-20 but China bombs Indian Air Bases, not even the most jingoistic Indian thinks its a victory.

India didn’t bomb gangbang their airbases . We did hit with precision. Small hits just to make them aware. All the damage on airbases is almost repaired. And if we did cause big damage : neither india nor porky claimed about it. These suaar should have paid specially when whole nation wanted this.

Stop this jingoistic nonsense. We had the chance to damage porky to their hell. But we let it go thanks to big papa trump or chacha Modi. We might never find Pakistan in such situation politically economic diplomatic or social level. They are fighting 3 front war. We had them by neck and just loosen the grip.

They will learn from it and will prepare accordingly. As for what world thinks just leave your city and go out and see what world thinks who won the war.
IAF WA’s found over confident. They got played.

Porkistan have won this narrative war with their propaganda. They have gained more than india. Countries came for their help . USA china turkey oic Ajarbaijan Bangladesh.
And don’t start these poor arse lame nations we don’t care. India Is poorer than most of these nation just google gdp per capita. And remember we have 90% wealth with 10 % people.
while we are sending people around globe requesting them to hear us. Just a few 50 people do u think it will matter? Media WA’s bought by them and their friends they had longer reach.

 

[BON PLAN]

Radars are Russia's strong point. Yet, it doesn't boast a AESA radar.

???
The lack of AESA is really a celar weakness. And now the GaN... That mean nearly 2 generation short.
The Su27, 30, 35, 57 radars are only interesting by their big size. In the same size US or Japan or Euope would have a so better radar....

 

[concard]

The F-22 is an outdated aircraft, sure it has a fantastic RCS and radar but it has no DIRCM, no MAWS, no IRST, no HMDS, no L-band radar, limited situational awareness with one radar, no loyal wingman function and no real long range air to ground standoff munitions. On the other hand the SU-57 has all those features.

The SU-57 was also never mass produced because the Russian MOD is waiting for the improved SU-57M1 which has been in development since 2019 and should be ready in 2025. The new engine also has significantly less parts, for instance 5 less compression stages, less parts, less maintenance and more reliability. It’s also much more efficient, so no matter how you spin it the AL-51F1 is a far superior engine, lighter, more thrust, less parts, more reliability, ect.

As for Chinese electronics. Chinese chips are some of the best in the world. A lot of their chips outperform western counterparts. Russia also still gets a lot of western chips, Japanese chips and domestic chips. Chips alone also won’t guarantee great avionics if the programmer’s do a poor job.

Russia also never “gave up” on the SU-57, that is just an ignorant thing to say. Indians pulling out of the SU-57 also means little as the Indian MOD are known to have absurd expectations, plus India wanted equal development (aka wanting to redesign a lot of the aircraft) which was problematic because it would have caused the price to skyrocket plus India lacked and still lacks knowledge on modern jet engines that is why the Kavari failed and India uses old F404 engines. So what exactly would India provide that would justify 50/50? Again the Indian MOD had unrealistic expectations of HAL.

Thanks for falling into my trap. You have unleashed the cracken. Your post reeks of simping for China. Let me disect your BS propaganda.

F-22 is an outdated aircraft? Who said so? You? So we have to take your word on F-22? F-22 first flight was in 1997 and it's production line ran from 2005-2011. No shit, it won't be having all the modern technological advancements. But since then Lockheed Martin is planning to upgrade the aircraft to include some of the subsystems you have listed. This is the recent news about F-22 upgrades from LM.

F-22 getting IRST

New F-22 Upgrade Package To Keep The Jets Viable Laid Out

The Air Force's latest budget request has new details about the cocktail of enhancements that aim to keep the F-22 relevant.

www.twz.com

F-22 getting IRDS/DIRCM

USAF F-22 Raptors to feature new sensors

Lockheed Martin has a $270m contract from the USAF to upgrade its fifth-generation F-22 Raptor, with infrared threat-detection sensors.

www.airforce-technology.com

More contracts awarded for upgrades last year

U.S. Air Force Awards RTX $1 Billion Contract to Upgrade F-22 Sensors

The contract follows the recent news about the tests of new advanced sensors on the F-22 Raptor, which the U.S. Air Force is planning to field quickly as

theaviationist.com

Engine upgrades for F-22

Pratt Gets $1.5 Billion to Sustain F-22 Engine

Pratt & Whitney will sustain the F119 engine on the F-22 for three more years under a $1.5 billion contract and look at improvements.

www.airandspaceforces.com

Headup display upgrade of F-22

F-22 Raptor's head-up display upgrades to digital - Military Embedded Systems

ARLINGTON, Va. U.S. Lockheed Martin officials selected BAE Systems to modernize the U.S. Air Force F-22 Raptor's head-up display (HUD) by upgrading it to a full digital version.

militaryembedded.com

F-22 was ahead of it's time. So it did not have the cool gadgets you listed. Slowly, USAF is equipping F-22 to have the technological edge. Now that F-35 is online, the role of F-22 might slightly differ. It's major role will always be SEAD and DEAD during first day of conflict. After that F-35 or F-15/F-16/F-18 jets will take over. Neither F-22 or F-35 will be flying sorties all through the conflict.

With respect to India's participation in SU-57, you are uttering pure balderdash. We invested $300 million in 2009/10 for prototype development of SU-57. The prototype was not satisfactory for IAF. Yet, they wanted in on the program hoping future iterations will improve. However, Russians wanted to screw us just like the way they screwed us with INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier where they jacked up the price from $900 million to $2.3 billion. They played the same trick with SU-57 asking us to invest whopping $30 billion in R & D and to deliver around 150 aircrafts. This is basically India investing in Russian military industrial complex and getting nothing in return as they did not want to give any workshare for our industry.

India Pulls out of Joint Stealth Fighter Project With Russia

India has reportedly withdrawn from a 11-year joint program to develop a 5th generation fighter jet with Russia.

thediplomat.com

Failed Indo-Russian Fifth Generation Fight Aircraft - FGFA project – RuAviation

These events became landmarks for the world military aviation and were closely followed both in China itself and in the USA, the countries of South-East Asia

ruavia.su

When we are bringing the money and you are using our money for R &D, then you obviously have to part with technology. You can't fucking say "Sorry, we only want your money. No parting with our secrets." Unless they induct SU-57 in good numbers in their air force no amount of cheerleading will help convince anyone that SU-57 is better than F-22.


We learnt a lesson not to rely on strategic weapons on other countries that is why we are developing our own even if it takes longer time. If according to you F404 is old then all the engines powered by RD-33 and RD-93 is what? Ancient flying wheels?

 

[sunnyv]

Its absolutely clear. Pakis wanted to just hit few IAF jets in air while they were Targeting Bahawalpur. That was the only tactic they had wargamed in last 5 years. They were not prepared for any more escalatory exchange. They were outsmarted and caught wondering in shock what SCALP, LM like warmate and PGM like Hammer achieved. Whole world saw those visuals. Even Saboot Gang was slapped by the visuals from On board sensors and on-ground videos. Then pressure mounted on Porkis to respond. Indian media and Gov silence made the things worse for Pokis because losses of Air Assets even if 1 or 2 was not disclosed. Armed Forces, Media managers, Gov machinery and even Forum members did not give any PR material to ISPR to claim victory like Balakot. Great work done by gov and CDS to keep them in dark. That forced PAF to launch a unsuccessful attempt to get some face saving Trophy which never happened. This was precisely what Armed Forces were waiting and salivating for 3 decades. It was absolutely flawless laid trap "Picture Abhi Baki Hai" by Gen Narwane. Armed forces were crystal clear what they had planned and were making Porkis to walk into that trap. Rest is history written by Aerospace on 9/10 May with SU30 Rambhas flying from Pune and releasing payloads from skies above Gujrat while Katrina Rafale armed with Mica escorted them and Sasha S400 Moscowa giving a envelope of safety to keep PAF jets scared and operating way behind. Op Sindoor has redrawn the lines of deterrence and will go down in history how one Nuclear Superpower taught another Nuclear Armed Rogue state a lesson in Militay planning/Doctrine/Execution and a masterclass how Diplomacy works when given responsibility to work in coherence with Armed Forces.
People might abuse the Gov but Political will and intent of present establishment is an absolutely 180 degrees turnaround from Streets of Mumbai to Scenic Pahlgam Pir Panjal range. India was ready to step up escalatory ladder while holding all the cards to itself. Middle East, SouthEast Asia, Europe and United States saw what this Sleeping Elephant is capable of. India is Jason Bourne and not Israel aka John wick. We will always be 1 step ahead of the world. Brain >>> Biceps. Perhaps the soft image and projecting our fractured society is the biggest disguise the country has, to keep the enemies at toe always. Indus water is the Avanguard missile that will keep this Operation Going on and keep reminding the world there is only Gangaster in this region. Salom and Jai Hind.

 

[snakeeyes07]

I am going to run a IAF-PAF simulation across Punjab, Jammu and some part of Rajasthan area.
PAF
20x J-10C
25x JF-17 blk3 with PL15E loadout
18x JF-17 blk3 with PL12 loadout
12x JF-17 blk3 with CM400AKG loadout
8x F16 blk52
2x HQ16 [Lahore & Sialkot]
2x Spada 2000 [Mianwali, Murid]
1x HQ9B [Nur Khan] - Does anybody know the location of other HQ9B from open source, maybe Sargodha?
1x Babur SSM regiment
1x DF11 SSM regiment
2x Saab 2000 AEW&C
1x JY27A radar

IAF
40x SU30MKI Astra mk1 loadout
10x SU30MKI loadout
30x MIG29UPG
12x Rafale Meteor loadout
12x Tejas MK1 DCA
12x Mirage 2000 MICA loadout DCA
4x Rafale Scalp loadout
1x SSM regiment
1x Agni 1 SSM regiment (roleplaying as Pralay)
1x EMB-145
1x Phalcon
1x S400 [Adampur]
1x IAF Akash [Adampur, Halwara]
1x MRSAM [Bathinda, Sirsa]
2x SA-3 [Bathinda, Sirsa]
1x IA Akash [Jalandhar]
4x Spyder [Amritsar, Jammu, Pathankot, Halwara]
1x P8I

Will give 8 airbases to India (no fighter ops from Amritsar, Jammu, Pathankot). Will give 6 airbases to Pakistan, Rafiqui, Sargodha, Nur Khan, Mianwali (no fighter ops from Lahore and Murid)

In this scenarios air-to-air and air-to-surface engagements will happen simultaneously. In later round, cruise missile (SSM regmts) will open up and followed by BM if losses are very skewed on one side.

Any suggestions?
@randombully
@mist_consecutive
@vampyrbladez

Setting up IAF right now - I might lower fighter numbers on both both sides proportionately as it is getting chaotic. Still need to add more SU30MKI and MIG29UPG for AA. Also few of LCA FOC (I can add mk1a as well) and Mirage 2000 for DCA.

Currently, I have 8x SU30MKI protecting AEW&CS and LAC. 12 Rafale with 4x meteor each in 6 flights of 2 each

The scenario is that IAF is starting the campaign by conducting strikes on Nur Khan, Sargodha, Shorkot airbases and GHQ. IAF Bases are all on alert with AD network established and active.

PAF J-10s, JF17s and F-16s will be in the air in significant numbers to try and deter Indian strike packages and score kills.

In subsequent simulations, I can see how addition of R-37M and LORA (roleplaying as Rudram) changes things.


IAF Strike package is:
6x Rafale with 2x Scalp EG each
12x SU30MKI with 1x each

There are 2 IA regiments, one in Punjab and other in Udhampur, but they will not open in the first round.

 

[rockdog]

Setting up IAF right now - I might lower fighter numbers on both both sides proportionately as it is getting chaotic. Still need to add more SU30MKI and MIG29UPG for AA. Also few of LCA FOC (I can add mk1a as well) and Mirage 2000 for DCA.

Currently, I have 8x SU30MKI protecting AEW&CS and LAC. 12 Rafale with 4x meteor each in 6 flights of 2 each

The scenario is that IAF is starting the campaign by conducting strikes on Nur Khan, Sargodha, Shorkot airbases and GHQ. IAF Bases are all on alert with AD network established and active.

PAF J-10s, JF17s and F-16s will be in the air in significant numbers to try and deter Indian strike packages and score kills.

In subsequent simulations, I can see how addition of R-37M and LORA (roleplaying as Rudram) changes things.


IAF Strike package is:
6x Rafale with 2x Scalp EG each
12x SU30MKI with 1x each

There are 2 IA regiments, one in Punjab and other in Udhampur, but they will not open in the first round.
View attachment 42170

We also simulated the battle days after 7th May, between PAF ans IAF

 

[concard]

The F-22 is an outdated aircraft, sure it has a fantastic RCS and radar but it has no DIRCM, no MAWS, no IRST, no HMDS, no L-band radar, limited situational awareness with one radar, no loyal wingman function and no real long range air to ground standoff munitions. On the other hand the SU-57 has all those features.

The SU-57 was also never mass produced because the Russian MOD is waiting for the improved SU-57M1 which has been in development since 2019 and should be ready in 2025. The new engine also has significantly less parts, for instance 5 less compression stages, less parts, less maintenance and more reliability. It’s also much more efficient, so no matter how you spin it the AL-51F1 is a far superior engine, lighter, more thrust, less parts, more reliability, ect.

As for Chinese electronics. Chinese chips are some of the best in the world. A lot of their chips outperform western counterparts. Russia also still gets a lot of western chips, Japanese chips and domestic chips. Chips alone also won’t guarantee great avionics if the programmer’s do a poor job.

Russia also never “gave up” on the SU-57, that is just an ignorant thing to say. Indians pulling out of the SU-57 also means little as the Indian MOD are known to have absurd expectations, plus India wanted equal development (aka wanting to redesign a lot of the aircraft) which was problematic because it would have caused the price to skyrocket plus India lacked and still lacks knowledge on modern jet engines that is why the Kavari failed and India uses old F404 engines. So what exactly would India provide that would justify 50/50? Again the Indian MOD had unrealistic expectations of HAL.

Now with respect to claims of Chinese chips being superior. I call BS without hesitation. I work with semiconductor industry and have contacts in Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and Texas Instruments. When you are talking about chips, be specific. Are you talking about X86 chips, ARM chips, FPGA, Microcontrollers? Where exactly Chinese chips outperform Western counterparts?

As far as I know in the X86 space Intel and AMD dominate. There is no rival to either of them. Intel has X86 license and AMD has X64 license. Both companies have cross licensing agreements. In the ARM space, Qualcomm and Apple dominate with respect to Smart phone chips and chips used in personal computers. Both have top design tech talent I have never seen. In fact, I can confidently say US has top chip design talent in ARM space at this point. Ever heard of Nuvia and Ampere computing? Check it out and let me know what are their Chinese equivalents.

I don't even want to go into your BS of saying Huawei making 1nm chip in another post. This is like saying I traveled to another planet without a rocket. You don't even have EUV machine let alone the new one NA-EUV machine and you are claiming you made a 1nm chip? Enlighten us how were you able to come up with a 1nm chip without the tools required to make it?

If you are talking about 2D materials like graphene, then you are popping the champagne too early.

 

[rockdog]

Now with respect to claims of Chinese chips being superior. I call BS without hesitation. I work with semiconductor industry and have contacts in Intel, AMD, Nvidia, and Texas Instruments. When you are talking about chips, be specific. Are you talking about X86 chips, ARM chips, FPGA, Microcontrollers? Where exactly Chinese chips outperform Western counterparts?

As far as I know in the X86 space Intel and AMD dominate. There is no rival to either of them. Intel has X86 license and AMD has X64 license. Both companies have cross licensing agreements. In the ARM space, Qualcomm and Apple dominate with respect to Smart phone chips and chips used in personal computers. Both have top design tech talent I have never seen. In fact, I can confidently say US has top chip design talent in ARM space at this point. Ever heard of Nuvia and Ampere computing? Check it out and let me know what are their Chinese equivalents.

I don't even want to go into your BS of saying Huawei making 1nm chip in another post. This is like saying I traveled to another planet without a rocket. You don't even have EUV machine let alone the new one NA-EUV machine and you are claiming you made a 1nm chip? Enlighten us how were you able to come up with a 1nm chip without the tools required to make it?

If you are talking about 2D materials like graphene, then you are popping the champagne too early.

There are also IGBT, Ram, server chip, AI chips. Not all based on x86 or arm, but on RISC-V, and our own loongarch.

Some areas chinese chip industry already in leading position, and some are 2-3 yrs behind.

By then, China will be only nation with full domestic chip supply chain alone.


View: https://x.com/NuryVittachi/status/1917034102404034786?t=l64BuIk1vDmkIfFdSw1tQw&s=19


And the local EUV is on internal evaluation phase, might be on trial production in 2 yrs.


View: https://x.com/jenzhuscott/status/1902026109333762225?t=H-2DsANrSVGouTqIkih-pw&s=19

 

[redpanda]

My viewpoint is different. There was a time for psyops, and most of you will remember I was very active during Op Sindoor. Same for Balakot, same for Galwan.

Post Ops, dust has settled, satellite pictures are out, BDA has been done, ceasefire has been called (and it has been 1+ month). This is the time for us to analyse what went well and what didn't.

For those weapons which worked well, great, we should look into why it worked well, and improve it. But moreover, we must look into what didn't work well, and either fix it, or create contingency plans for it.

Regarding arguing with Wumaos / Jihadis, you are wasting your bandwidth and effort. You cannot convince someone who won't accept satellite pictures and videos taken from the ground. They know the truth, they are lying, and trying to troll you. Pakistan has been defeated and PAF disabled within 48 hours, and they know it.

Leave them to Moderators. Ignore the trolls, move on.

I believe this forum should upheld its standards high-quality knowledge and informed technical debates instead of becoming a GoI IT-cell echo chamber.

I have informed this before, in case this is not something this forum yearns for, moderators please delete this and my above post.

Well I mostly agree with your view point. I think the administration needs to be a bit more active against the CCP trolls. While I'm certainly pro free speech and believes there could be rationale exchange of dialogues and knowledge. Over these years from my multiple interactions with Chinese users on this forum, it's predecessor, and other places, I have come to conclusion that most of them don't argue in good faith and they often have a very condescending tone, pretty much like a troll. Criticising a system based on technical specifications is fine or events in the development process associated with it. But those guys come and make a very crude remark like "Yeah indian may try to think they are achieving something these days. But perhaps crude craftsmanship of India can never match our sophistry." Or some other bs. Constantly deriding any Indian project and telling them to no do. "Why are you focusing on making jets? Why are you making HGVs? Just work on poverty reduction or building better health infrastructure." etc. When you rationale counter their argument, they resort to shifting goalpost and start over their gaslighting from another point. Some other forums I shall not name have taken rather strict action against their resident Wumaos after multiple infringement of these kinds of bad behaviour.

 

[Azaad]

There are also IGBT, Ram, server chip, AI chips. Not all based on x86 or arm, but on RISC-V, and our own loongarch.

Some areas chinese chip industry already in leading position, and some are 2-3 yrs behind.

By then, China will be only nation with full domestic chip supply chain alone.


View: https://x.com/NuryVittachi/status/1917034102404034786?t=l64BuIk1vDmkIfFdSw1tQw&s=19


And the local EUV is on internal evaluation phase, might be on trial production in 2 yrs.


View: https://x.com/jenzhuscott/status/1902026109333762225?t=H-2DsANrSVGouTqIkih-pw&s=19

In other words Wumao Number two here is confirming what Wumao Number one declared that being Huawei having already developed the 1 nm SMC is now developing the 0.5 nm SMC.

On behalf of the MSS , I hereby promote you & fix your pay scale as 75 cents / post plus 500 social credit points .

Congratulations !

Happy posting !!

 

[redpanda]

In other words Wumao Number two here is confirming what Wumao Number one declared that being Huawei having already developed the 1 nm SMC is now developing the 0.5 nm SMC.

On behalf of the MSS , I hereby promote you & fix your pay scale as 75 cents / post plus 500 social credit points .

Congratulations !

Happy posting !!

Wumaos don't understand the difference between the term 7nm, 5nm and 3nm. What does these terms even mean in technical terms. They just read some ccp rag like smcp or bilibili hyping some laboratory experiments. But when you get into the minute details of those things and see the reality from the hype , then you realise these things have been tried multiple times already by many countries already in the past to varied success. But wumaos market it like they are numba wan in it (just like their iron brother paxtan), and somehow they are going to mass manufacture it tomorrow.

 

[shade2]

I guessed this shitshow when i read "Chinese chips best in teh wurld" in that guy's post

Earlier i was wondering whether he was a real Ruskal shilling his nation's wares, but "besht in wurld" was all the confirmation i needed

 

[concard]

There are also IGBT, Ram, server chip, AI chips. Not all based on x86 or arm, but on RISC-V, and our own loongarch.

Some areas chinese chip industry already in leading position, and some are 2-3 yrs behind.

By then, China will be only nation with full domestic chip supply chain alone.


View: https://x.com/NuryVittachi/status/1917034102404034786?t=l64BuIk1vDmkIfFdSw1tQw&s=19


And the local EUV is on internal evaluation phase, might be on trial production in 2 yrs.


View: https://x.com/jenzhuscott/status/1902026109333762225?t=H-2DsANrSVGouTqIkih-pw&s=19

You have no basic idea about semiconductors. Why are you clubbing IGBT, RAM in the same group as servers, chip, AI? IGBT is a transistor mainly used in Power Electronics. What does RAM modules have anything to do with chip architecture?

Server chips are based on X86 and ARM architectures, mainly the former. AI chips are nothing but GPU's. Stop calling them by fansy names. RISC V is a open source instruction set architecture designed in University of California, Berkely. It is now held by Swiss non-profit. You are betting on it because it is royalty free.

What are the areas of semiconductor industry China is leading? Please enlighten us mortals. As far as your attempts at making EUV, it is laughable. EUV is a natural evolution from DUV. Does China have DUV machine along the same lines as ASML's DUV? If you say "Yes", then I wonder what are you buying from ASML these days.

ASML Raises China Sales Forecast on Robust Demand

www.yicaiglobal.com

ASML is allowed to sell DUV but not EUV machines.

 

[Brood Father]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

Look , We all can speculate what happened or not , Some of us may have inside knowhow about the loses we have suffered but until it is public and confirmed by Government we should be bit careful of the statements
Being mod you have added responsibilities . I agree we are not porky and should be able to separate fact from fiction and analyze but until we have official data on what happened on 6th there is no point of analyzing
Kindly refrain from such posts if they are against national interest.

 

[Anants]

I am really sorry for breaking everyone's heart.

Spoiler: Don't open if you are weak hearted

1 Rafale did crash in Bhatinda.

engine looked like 53 not 88

 

[DancingPeacock]

India didn’t bomb gangbang their airbases . We did hit with precision. Small hits just to make them aware. All the damage on airbases is almost repaired. And if we did cause big damage : neither india nor porky claimed about it. These suaar should have paid specially when whole nation wanted this.

Stop this jingoistic nonsense. We had the chance to damage porky to their hell. But we let it go thanks to big papa trump or chacha Modi. We might never find Pakistan in such situation politically economic diplomatic or social level. They are fighting 3 front war. We had them by neck and just loosen the grip.

They will learn from it and will prepare accordingly. As for what world thinks just leave your city and go out and see what world thinks who won the war.
IAF WA’s found over confident. They got played.

Porkistan have won this narrative war with their propaganda. They have gained more than india. Countries came for their help . USA china turkey oic Ajarbaijan Bangladesh.
And don’t start these poor arse lame nations we don’t care. India Is poorer than most of these nation just google gdp per capita. And remember we have 90% wealth with 10 % people.
while we are sending people around globe requesting them to hear us. Just a few 50 people do u think it will matter? Media WA’s bought by them and their friends they had longer reach.

View: https://x.com/detresfa_/status/1941044886821917268. Yeah, Repaired right? Will you delete your comment or will froth again like street dog?

 

[Ajatshatru]

Fighter Jet​	Max Payload Capacity​
Rafale	9,500 kg
Su-30MKI	8,000 kg
J-10C	6,000 kg
Tejas MK1A	5,300 kg

 

[randombully]

Fighter Jet​	Max Payload Capacity​
Rafale	9,500 kg
Su-30MKI	8,000 kg
J-10C	6,000 kg
Tejas MK1A	5,300 kg

Highly misleading.
Su30mki, theoretically has 10+ ton payload lifting capacity, it's 8 ton max in practice, for safety margin.

Rafale has 9.5 tons theoretically.
It's 6-7 tons max in practice.

Tejas mk1a
5.3 theory.
4ton in practice.

J10c.
Max theoretical payload is 7 tons.
In practice it's about 5.5 tons( relatively somewhat smaller wings).

Tejas mk2 will have similar.
5.5 max in practice.

Now, all these max in "practice" payload also assumes full internal fuel.

 

[Azaad]

Since this is air force related thread, it recalled me just 6 months ago, if i say two 6th gen like fighters on debut at same day by PLAAF, everyone would laugh at me.






Because talking semicomductors, you can't avoid those areas, not just cpu, arm or X86.



Serve chip by own Loonarch not x86 not arm already in datacenter use.

New homegrown China server chips unveiled with impressive specs — Loongson's 3C6000 CPU comes armed with 64 cores, 128 threads, and performance to rival Xeon 8380

New homegrown China server chips unveiled with impressive specs — Loongson's 3C6000 CPU comes armed with 64 cores, 128 threads, and performance to rival Xeon 8380

The new 64-core Chinese CPU is over 6 months late, but finally here.

www.tomshardware.com

Samsung signs to use YMTC NAND flash technology

Samsung signs to use YMTC NAND flash technology

Samsung Electronics is set to use bonding technology from China's YMTC for the production of 400-layer NAND flash memory.

www.eenewseurope.com

Huawei AI chips are eating shares of Nvida.



View: https://x.com/Jackie_D_Hansen/status/1936605057748733978?t=oTNgeFL56mZWt8MNNOMGQQ&s=19




The are thee parallel projects ongoing, like J50/J36 fighters by different makers.

The DUV and immerse DUV on production trial, and EUV will be out of lab this yr

14/28nm factory from SMIC

5/7 nm factory from Huawei
View attachment 42197

Satellite images reveal Huawei’s advanced chip production line in China

Rapid expansion of Shenzhen facilities designed to break dependence on foreign technologies

www.ft.com

I'd let @concard answer that for that's his area of expertise. Kindly take your response to the China Economy thread.

This thread has already been de railed by many off topic posts courtesy noodles with bat soup out here . Their numbers seem to grow daily like termites.

I personally think deepseek moment is coming to EUV, of course you would alway believe in only ASML would do it. humble faces like this?



View: https://x.com/Kanthan2030/status/1884405270379364739?t=DDn2MklNAlpKGvwky1lA4w&s=19

Humble faces like this ? You get an MSS stooge to comment the way he did & post views of what you want to project as the truth here thinking we'd blindly accept it ?

Had plenty of urine eggs for lunch deep fried in gutter oil , Chang ?

India set to build its own ChatGPT: Sarvam AI, Soket AI, Gan.ai, Gnani.ai lead the charge under ₹10,000 cr MeitY mission

India is launching its own ChatGPT-like AI technologies with companies like Sarvam AI, Soket AI, Gan.ai, and Gnani.ai spearheading the ₹10,000 crore initiative. Discover how these AI startups are transforming India's digital landscape and the future of artificial intelligence.

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This is the reason I think you continue to earn 50 cents / post even after 20 years & haven't still received a promotion stuck as you're with DFI / DFB . It's the same reason you failed your Gaokao examination.

Do you think a Sam Altman guides our policy decisions or some pimp who eats Chinese shit like Kanthan ?

Satellite images reveal Huawei’s advanced chip production line in China

Satellite images reveal Huawei's advanced chip production line ?? You seem to have had more urine eggs than you can handle with bat soup I guess.