Indian Army Artillery Programme

[Pundit Pikachu]

you are talking about an era where parliamentary defence committee meetings used to end early because MPs had flight to catch,
you are talking about an era where russians would deny permission to add a cooling system to T-90,
you are talking about an era, where services to return tens of thousands of crores of unspent capex each year,
you are talking about an era, where defence minister in parliament said there is no money to buy new jets.
you are talking about an era, when IAF chief had to run a secret op to open a forward airfield in ladakh because gormint of the day won't allow it.

You don't need me to tell me about this list, I already know about all that,
In an ideal scenario when the political situation changed for the army, they should have introspected and made-up for that lost time, which they have (army in particular) not
You know why ?
because It was the same era when Navy admirals used to sell their Imaan for some Russian poosy,
It was the same era when DRDO was forced to put additional security on Arjun prototype because it could have gotten sabotaged inside a Army base.

In the era you are talking about both military and Political leadership were in cahoots however even though now political leadership has changed but army has not and I am merely calling them out

It's true that we can't go back in time but we can atleast makeup for that lost time by doing things more swiftly and at a break neck speed in the present,
which we are not cause if we were then there wouldn't have been such lack luster attitude towards this whole fiasco and no one would have been making such outlandish claims as you
nobody would have been waiting for gold plated wunderwaffe by saying "technology is fast changing" nobody would have been giving excuses like "Trials going on" or will be ordered soon" or "RFI released" even though we are yet to see a firm order

don't drag me into shouting matches, i try my best to be a neutral and factual in my posts. i have no interest in these point scoring games

I am not dragging you into shouting matches I am merely reminding you that you are being hopelessly optimistic even against you better judgement because even you know orders of most of the items you mentioned in your last post are going to take atleast a decade to materialize.

 

[Blood+]

Dhanush and Sarang are fucking ancient, they were good in 2005 not 2015, it's based on ToT from a 90s gun in essence it's a 30 year old technology.

Lemme ask you a rather personal question - how old are you actually?? Ever heard of a little something called a cost-benefit analysis??
A single Sharang gun would cost about 7 million INR, which was like 5 to 7 times cheaper than what a new towed howitzer would cost. And while they are not as capable, they are dirt cheap and can be produced in great numbers relatively quickly!! Which means, it won't be that big of a blow if we lose a few.

Besides, the Indian Army has about 1200 pieces of M-46 field guns in its inventory and don't you think it'd be a huge waste to just decommission them when we have such an effective upgrade program??!!
Plus, they are fairly light weight and therefore, can be quickly deployed by helicopters in remote locations.
Plus, they have significantly longer range than the M 777s, that's another thing to consider.

Ordering nearly 4 decades old technology of Dhanush and Sharang is something only Indian Army can do

An artillery is an artillery is an artillery!! The vast majority of PLA units that we'd be facing are predominantly equipped with D-30 copies mounted on trucks, which by the way, was first introduced by the Soviets in 1960!! And the Chinese are not only using them in numbers but are still producing their newer variants (automatic loaders, network centricity etc.).
Sharang and Dhanush are space-age tech in comparison!! So, for once, get out of your teenage angst and ruse critical thinking instead, or at least try.

but the enemy won't be this forgiving and I am sorry but did these harmkhor generals not learn anything from the Ukraine war, why are we still fixated on 1800 towed guns, Pakis will have the support of the Cheenis (you know the fuckin biggest producer of drones)

Because we have got such a long stretch of mountainous borders. Shoot and scoot doesn't really work when you don't have a place or way to scoot over to!! What use a self propelled howitzer be of if you are gonna be restricted to narrow winding mountainous roads anyway?? That's why, my young friend, we need both types in large quantities.