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MoD/MEA babus are taking PM for a ride it seems. Does he not realize the extremely naive thought of shifting production lines here doesn't work? Keeping aside competence aspect of a PSU which is gonna screwdriver them, US never gonna outsource crucial defence jobs. Modi thinks civilian industry is same as defence industry.

The PM is advised by Doval and a very competent bunch of Technocrats. Are they so incompetent that these Babus can take him for a ride?

Modi thinks the Civ Industry is the same as the defence industry means what? Are you calling our PM gullible ?

The deal is a trojan horse. On the guise of global export hub, once it comes here all the 8x8 will be systematically subverted. Since it's not babus money, they would be paying 5x cost for each spare part all while the OEM is laughing that Indians are easily fooled.

Boss the deal is extortion - the Same as the F-35 deal which will kill the AMCA effectively.

This is the top echelon Modi is surrounded by.

Lol can we stop deflecting blame away from the Current Govt. Buck stops at their feet.
 
Guys a bit of a unpopular opinion but hear me out.
We can never have enough land vehicles as such we can incorporate both Stryker and WhAP. This is possibly the least disruptive procurement, we win some and we lose some.
 
We can never have enough land vehicles as such we can incorporate both Stryker and WhAP. This is possibly the least disruptive procurement, we win some and we lose some.

Stryker CONS

1. is a vehicle that we have no logistics for, (Ammo, Maintaince, Training)
2. Can ONLY be used in Ladhak
3. FOREX leaving
4. Taking awards away from Indian Manufacturers

Sorry, There is no spinning this. Even if the Indian army was on board this is the purest quality of BS.
 
Guys a bit of a unpopular opinion but hear me out.
We can never have enough land vehicles as such we can incorporate both Stryker and WhAP. This is possibly the least disruptive procurement, we win some and we lose some.

Some more gyan from the twitterverse to ponder [Courtesy BR]

VIDEO:
View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1892240487416991791 ---> COAS when asked about Stryker & stuff, to be honest it's depressing that COAS of the country thinks we can have foreign collaboration to get the technology in a faster timeline as he says. Does the COAS not realize WHAP is already a system of just the kind he described? And is already getting exported.

All tweets below are in response to the video above...


View: https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1892253882644090933 ---> For too long we’ve romanticizes “soldiers’ general” far more compared to Cerebral thinking generals to our own detriment. Too many infantry officers at the top. Less knowledge and time to think about about mechanization, industrial capacity, ecosystems, future capability building!


View: https://x.com/EkNashwar/status/1892339132313035095 ---> Transfer Of Officers (TOO) may be more practical in IA than ToT. Discouraging display of institutional blindness towards technical independence and excellence. Institutional apartheid towards Indigenous platforms. No platform becomes proven until inducted.


View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1892281811054842206 ---> ToT, ToT, ToT. That's all our senior defence officials seem to know. Or atleast say in public every other day. Not sure if they believe in it.

https://x.com/OpinionGalaxy20/status/18 ... 9072069796 ---> Total illiterate about the technology. Technology evolves with the number of iterations. Even a 200 line data structure requires at least 10 iterations to get it crisp and accurate, but these buffoons need foreign "proven" maal.


View: https://x.com/AdithyaKM_/status/1892279131707994168 ---> So COAS himself can't spell out a convincing case for Stryker, uses buzzwords: "integrated", "visualization", "firepower", FCS. All these are chassis agnostic & available in India. WhAP is a proper IFV and modular (a buzzword he missed). Note: Army had ordered only IPMV* variant, an APC*.

*IMPV: Infantry Protected Mobility Vehicle

*APC: Armoured Personnel Carrier



https://x.com/fishy_bong/status/1892554613351743991 ---> Look what I found. I always knew the import negative list was more or less a fraud list.

"Wheeled Armored Fighting Vehicle" is prohibited from import. Add to this where is a tender for comparative trials for all possible vehicle available in the market? So what actually is the Stryker? It is wheeled, it's a fighting vehicle and my hunch is that these guys will play around with the definition of armour to get this import done without falling into legal battle. It's a scam through and through. @INCIndia make good use of your existence take this issue up. Open to correct the interpretation of the document if mistakes on my side.

Link to List: https://static.pib.gov.in/WriteReadData ... %20MOD.pdf
 
Guys a bit of a unpopular opinion but hear me out.
We can never have enough land vehicles as such we can incorporate both Stryker and WhAP. This is possibly the least disruptive procurement, we win some and we lose some.
Sirji this is the most disruptive coz until now our dependence was on niche war fighting techs which will enhance our fighting capabilities but when it comes to ifv or apc these are as necessary as small arms to fight wars having dependency there will cost us heavily if Americans deny spares and necessary logistics
Don't compare these with t-90/72 or bmp coz the amount of indigenization achieved there will never be possible in case of Stryker
U can go and talk to any of avadi guy he will tell u how we have complete control over system and whatever orders going to russia are just for agreement of necessary they can ditch Russians
 

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