Indian Economy

[FalconSlayers]

Brozzer you can go to the Gelf then, living conditions may be shit if you're a poor guy and working manual labor and blue collar stuff, but you don't have to trek through kms of Central American rainforest and Mexican desert by Cartel walas only to fall off The Wall and end up like a red stain on the ground, like i read about the male half of a Gujju couple.

These Dunki folks pay like 1 cr or more just for the privilege of doing the aforementioned

And the Gelf also isn't that bad if you're going through the legal and white-collar job route, except the work is very harsh, they expect you to do overtime and all, it's a hard grind and you will make lots of money but not this dunki bs.

TLDR is people go the Dunki route because GORA COUNTRY!!!!! and citizenship in aforementioned country not because muh jaaabs saaar, muh paay shit saar! like Gora media likes to portray.

Also if poverty would've been the reason, we would've been seeing such happening more in East India which has high unemployment and poverty instead of affluent states like Gujarat, Punjab, Haryana, Kerala and Telangana. Also these countries has more or less become part of their culture. UAE for mallus, canada for punjabis, UK/USA for gujjus and telugu folks and so on.

 

[sameer]

While some may choose to take the Dunki route because of being influenced by social media, not everyone does it for the glamour. There are some serious reasons why people do it despite knowing the risks associated with it.

Whether you accept it or not, there is a paucity of jobs in India. We have not been able to create enough jobs for the population. On top of that majority of jobs pay remuneration that is simply not enough to keep up with the current living expenses.

Blue-collar jobs are often extremely low-paying, physically highly laborious, and risky, and therefore have become unattractive to youngsters. An Indian trucker is paid, on average, only 20,000-25,000 rupees a month for driving 11-12 hours a day on treacherous terrain in rickety trucks, whereas a US trucker easily earns more than $7,000 a month for driving only 8 hours a day.

A plumber/electrician/welder in India makes less than Rs 25,000 a month on average whereas their counterparts in the US can easily make more than 80,000 USD.

Amrikka could easily refuse admission and they'd stop coming. But nah, they'll accept these 'wretched' 'oppressed' poor people to do some grandstanding and score a point.

Hey Mudi, look at your poverty ridden Hindoo nationalisht hellhole, there are no jobs, no employment and all your people want to leave.

Accepting these migrants is all about setting a subconscious narrative. It benefits both dems and republicans. Dems get to lecture the India on hooman rites and reps get an excuse for racism and make it an issue for the next election.

Also all these people taking the dunki route are fairly well off. Perhaps they should be spending those $40k on making their lives better/ improving their skills/ setting up a business.

Heck they can even set up some dhandho business that imports cheeni maal(like our conglomerates) are doing and live off of it.

Jobs/employment is definitely an issue, but this illegal dunki migration is happening because the yankee wants it.

 

[shade2]

Also if poverty would've been the reason, we would've been seeing such happening more in East India which has high unemployment and poverty instead of affluent states like Gujarat, Punjab, Haryana, Kerala and Telangana. Also these countries has more or less become part of their culture. UAE for mallus, canada for punjabis, UK/USA for gujjus and telugu folks and so on.

Al-Geralam became affluent BECAUSE of Gelf immigration and kamar-tod kaam, rest all is on point.
Anyway even for a poor Geralam -> Gulf is much easier than *any part of the country* -> Anglo-Saxon countries

Amrikka could easily refuse admission and they'd stop coming. But nah, they'll accept these 'wretched' 'oppressed' poor people to do some grandstanding and score a point.

Hey Mudi, look at your poverty ridden Hindoo nationalisht hellhole, there are no jobs, no employment and all your people want to leave.

Accepting these migrants is all about setting a subconscious narrative. It benefits both dems and republicans. Dems get to lecture the India on hooman rites and reps get an excuse for racism and make it an issue for the next election.

Also all these people taking the dunki route are fairly well off. Perhaps they should be spending those $40k on making their lives better/ improving their skills/ setting up a business.

Heck they can even set up some dhandho business that imports cheeni maal(like our conglomerates) are doing and live off of it.

Jobs/employment is definitely an issue, but this illegal dunki migration is happening because the yankee wants it.

They mainly like immigrantes for cheap labour and depressing the wages purposes, but this is also a good side benefit for gora

 

[angryindian]

Brozzer you can go to the Gelf then, living conditions may be shit if you're a poor guy and working manual labor and blue collar stuff, but you don't have to trek through kms of Central American rainforest and Mexican desert by Cartel walas only to fall off The Wall and end up like a red stain on the ground, like i read about the male half of a Gujju couple.

These Dunki folks pay like 1 cr or more just for the privilege of doing the aforementioned

And the Gelf also isn't that bad if you're going through the legal and white-collar job route, except the work is very harsh, they expect you to do overtime and all, it's a hard grind and you will make lots of money but not this dunki bs.

TLDR is people go the Dunki route because GORA COUNTRY!!!!! and citizenship in aforementioned country not because muh jaaabs saaar, muh paay shit saar! like Gora media likes to portray.

Contrary to general perception,it's not that easy to get into Gulf Arab states and the salaries for Indian semi skilled and blue collar work is not that great either. Many experienced and certified workers earn only about INR 1 lakh - 1.5 lakh which barely covers their living expenses and working conditions are extremely harsh.

The biggest issue with Dunki is that it not only damages India's reputation, weakens its passport strength, and affects its foreign relationships but also makes life a living hell for those who go to other countries legally. Traveling with an Indian passport often becomes a nightmare, even for well-established individuals.

 

[angryindian]

Also if poverty would've been the reason, we would've been seeing such happening more in East India which has high unemployment and poverty instead of affluent states like Gujarat, Punjab, Haryana, Kerala and Telangana. Also these countries has more or less become part of their culture. UAE for mallus, canada for punjabis, UK/USA for gujjus and telugu folks and so on.

Even illegal travel to the U.S or the west requires an expenditure of at least Rs 50 to 60 lakhs, which is beyond the means of an average person in eastern India who owns little to no land.

 

[FalconSlayers]

Even illegal travel to the U.S or the west requires an expenditure of at least Rs 50 to 60 lakhs, which is beyond the means of an average person in eastern India who owns little to no land.

I am talking about even legal travel.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

https://swarajyamag.com/infrastructure/dedicated-freight-corridors-can-add-rs-16000-crore-to-indias-gdp-study

 

[FalconSlayers]

China+1 isn’t coming to India. Let’s go India+2

Manufacturing isn’t coming to India big time, because companies that want an alternative to China prefer Vietnam. But if the mountain won’t come to Mohammed…

www.deccanherald.com

Seems we're more talk than substance

Samsung invests $1.8 billion more in Vietnam for OLED manufacturing plant

Samsung Display Co plans to invest $1.8 billion in a new factory in northern Vietnam to produce OLED displays for automobiles and technology equipment. The facility will be located in Yen Phong industrial park, Bac Ninh province, raising Samsung's total investment in the area to $8.3 billion...

m.economictimes.com

VEPR expects Vietnam's 2024 GDP growth to reach govt target of 7%

Vietnam's GDP growth in Q4 2024 is projected to hit 7.4 per cent in a more optimistic scenario, meeting the government's 7-per cent target set for the year, the Vietnam Institute...

www.fibre2fashion.com

 

[karn]

China+1 isn’t coming to India. Let’s go India+2

Manufacturing isn’t coming to India big time, because companies that want an alternative to China prefer Vietnam. But if the mountain won’t come to Mohammed…

www.deccanherald.com

Seems we're more talk than substance

Samsung invests $1.8 billion more in Vietnam for OLED manufacturing plant

Samsung Display Co plans to invest $1.8 billion in a new factory in northern Vietnam to produce OLED displays for automobiles and technology equipment. The facility will be located in Yen Phong industrial park, Bac Ninh province, raising Samsung's total investment in the area to $8.3 billion...

m.economictimes.com

VEPR expects Vietnam's 2024 GDP growth to reach govt target of 7%

Vietnam's GDP growth in Q4 2024 is projected to hit 7.4 per cent in a more optimistic scenario, meeting the government's 7-per cent target set for the year, the Vietnam Institute...

www.fibre2fashion.com

This dudes argument is that GOI should make it easier for Indian companies to invest in Vietnam .
He just runs a corporate finance company . His advice literally helps only his business.
China and Vietnam have the advantage that they have already shot haramkhor profiteers like him.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

View: https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1850033345247547815

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

can anyone tell how many indian company maintain their unicorn status....from last year i only heard only one company become unicorn. so all boom in unicorn number is due to USA printing money. now they stop it, so did unicorn number isnt rising.

 

[shade2]

China+1 isn’t coming to India. Let’s go India+2

Manufacturing isn’t coming to India big time, because companies that want an alternative to China prefer Vietnam. But if the mountain won’t come to Mohammed…

www.deccanherald.com

Seems we're more talk than substance

Samsung invests $1.8 billion more in Vietnam for OLED manufacturing plant

Samsung Display Co plans to invest $1.8 billion in a new factory in northern Vietnam to produce OLED displays for automobiles and technology equipment. The facility will be located in Yen Phong industrial park, Bac Ninh province, raising Samsung's total investment in the area to $8.3 billion...

m.economictimes.com

VEPR expects Vietnam's 2024 GDP growth to reach govt target of 7%

Vietnam's GDP growth in Q4 2024 is projected to hit 7.4 per cent in a more optimistic scenario, meeting the government's 7-per cent target set for the year, the Vietnam Institute...

www.fibre2fashion.com

We have substance but it's not as much as we'd like

China + 1 means not focusing assembly in China but having a second source, it doesn't mean moving away from China since they don't allow imports of finished articles that easily, so there will be domestic assembly plants always.

Therefore the trend is to diversify production sites, not concentrate in one geography, therefore it's not mfg moving from China to India, it's moving from China to Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia,India, Indonesia, Mexico etc etc.

Now that we know this Vietnam will always be the clear winner,

• They are a chota China with the same Coomie top-down govt, no hassles for bijli, zameen etc, no panga of worker hartal
• The investment is focused on North Vietnam with strong road and rail links to China, also a Port,
• They also take it in the ass for dhandho and have no panga with China, they are not a threat to US at all so they don't do drama with them either.
• They also have FTAs with the rich and paleskinned nations, they ask for concessions for their goods, we ask for concessions for our colonialist immigrants

Anyway one big drawback of Vietnam is that it is a low population country in comparison to India and is dependent on exports, we don't have those issues, So the India advantage is that we have enough scale to justify Local Assembly and later on you can get into exports also, which the Govt gives #PhoolSapport.

Therefore Apple still has China as main site for it's iPhone production, which is their high-volume product line, while India is the #2 site, since they are seeing the future potential of the Indian market AND any exports they currently do.

Same goes for Samsung where Vietnam is the main site for Global export( they got lynched in sales in China to Cheenq companies across most of their products, so they left ) but they also have the Yuge facility in Noida just for smartphones which ofc they sell a lot off here, and they export also.

India has the benefit of being a "large market" like any other 100mn+ population country like Brazil which is moderately wealthy, you can do sarkari armtwisting of tarriffs and all and have local assembly, that is a good foot in the door but not enough, we need to push exports once this is done.

Also like karn said the author of the first article is a literal corpo finance shill, he's just peddling his agenda, as expected from a devotee of (((Raghuram Rajan)))

 

[shade2]

View: https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1850033345247547815

'India Should Manufacture Its Own AI,' Declares NVIDIA CEO

Artificial intelligence will be the driving force behind India’s digital transformation, fueling innovation, economic growth, and global leadership, NVIDIA founder and CEO Jensen Huang said Thursday at NVIDIA’s AI Summit in Mumbai. Addressing a crowd of entrepreneurs, developers, academics and...

blogs.nvidia.com

Reliance, Infosys, TCS and 3 other Indian companies that have partnered with Nvidia for AI chips - Times of India

TECH NEWS : Nvidia announces partnerships with Reliance Industries, Tata Communication Services (TCS), Infosys, Tech Mahindra, Wipro, and Ola to boost AI adoption

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

How Nvidia's Jensen Huang Is Betting Big On India - Forbes India

At Nvidia's first summit in the country, the co-founder and CEO of the chip powerhouse announced several collaborations including with Reliance, the Tata Group, Tech Mahindra and Zoho

www.forbesindia.com

The cheeni who heads Nvidia is desperate to peddle his wares to deshi suit-boots.
I think every company worth a damn in US, Cheen and EU already has servers stuffed with his GPUs so now he has come to India.

 

[karn]

'India Should Manufacture Its Own AI,' Declares NVIDIA CEO

Artificial intelligence will be the driving force behind India’s digital transformation, fueling innovation, economic growth, and global leadership, NVIDIA founder and CEO Jensen Huang said Thursday at NVIDIA’s AI Summit in Mumbai. Addressing a crowd of entrepreneurs, developers, academics and...

blogs.nvidia.com

Reliance, Infosys, TCS and 3 other Indian companies that have partnered with Nvidia for AI chips - Times of India

TECH NEWS : Nvidia announces partnerships with Reliance Industries, Tata Communication Services (TCS), Infosys, Tech Mahindra, Wipro, and Ola to boost AI adoption

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

How Nvidia's Jensen Huang Is Betting Big On India - Forbes India

At Nvidia's first summit in the country, the co-founder and CEO of the chip powerhouse announced several collaborations including with Reliance, the Tata Group, Tech Mahindra and Zoho

www.forbesindia.com

The cheeni who heads Nvidia is desperate to peddle his wares to deshi suit-boots.
I think every company worth a damn in US, Cheen and EU already has servers stuffed with his GPUs so now he has come to India.

Nvidia has thousands of employees in India.. Granted many of them are just testers and designers but still . Getting into manufacturing would not be so hard especially with gobhijis support for semi con.
He is desperate because the AI boom is normalizing and a lot of AI consumers and developers are in India. Bro just wants to keep the gravy train going.

 

[Screambowl]

https://www.business-standard.com/india-news/negligence-or-delay-in-addressing-public-concerns-won-t-be-tolerated-yogi-124102600388_1.html

Negligence or delay in addressing public concerns won't be tolerated: Yogi​

He further instructed the administrative and police officials present to resolve public issues in a timely, fair and efficient manner​

Chief Minister Yogi Adityanath has issued directives to officials, emphasizing that there must be no delay, or negligence, in addressing public grievances and assisting victims under any circumstances.


"If any negligence occurs, appropriate action will be taken against those responsible," he said.


While addressing public concerns during the Janata Darshan held at the Gorakhnath temple on Saturday morning, the chief minister instructed, "If there are any obstacles in resolving an individual's issue, they should be identified and swiftly addressed. If any case is intentionally left unresolved at any level, the accountability of the responsible officials should be ensured." As per a press statement, at the Janta Darshan, held in front of the Mahant Digvijaynath Smriti Bhawan within the temple complex, Adityanath met with approximately 300 individuals and listened to their concerns.

Reiterating the government's commitment to resolve every person's issues effectively, he urged the people not to worry about anything, or feel distressed.


He further instructed the administrative and police officials present to resolve public issues in a timely, fair and efficient manner. In certain cases, he asked officers to investigate the reasons behind the lack of administrative support and ensure immediate assistance for all affected individuals.


Adityanath directed strict legal action against those involved in land grabbing. He assured those seeking housing and other essential needs that every eligible person would benefit from government welfare schemes.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Also if poverty would've been the reason, we would've been seeing such happening more in East India which has high unemployment and poverty instead of affluent states like Gujarat, Punjab, Haryana, Kerala and Telangana. Also these countries has more or less become part of their culture. UAE for mallus, canada for punjabis, UK/USA for gujjus and telugu folks and so on.

A little bit of observation. Punjabi Haryavani want to project an image of power wealth and abundance. That means large house in suburbs, expensive cars, farms and luxuries.
There is already a car culture and big house culture in these two states so that translates well into North America where they buy these things specially cars.
A mustang costs around 40 lakhs in Canada but the same for India is 1 cr. So despite being rich states, they cannot douse themselves in luxury in the same way their relatives in foren do.
This creates a cycle of feeling lacking in material wealth and this trigger them to move to greener pastures.

Imagine you work as AC installation technician there and live in a house like the above.
After years of grinding you buy it and 2 cars one mustang and one bmw.
Your children have a decent future in good quality colleges and health-care is free and the service is great.
you go to hiking near beautiful mountains and lakes National Park which is mostly empty. You can buy RV and travel the vast expanses, something next to impossible in India. The weather is great too.

Back in India his cousin graduated from a private college with a debt or 12 to 20 lakhs to grind 5 to 10 years while arriving at a salary of 20 to 40 lakhs. Sitrama Tai steals 30% and you get substandard facility. Healthcare is costly the education is costly and sarkari college is full of soul crushing grind and reservation.
You can never buy a luxury car with 30 lakhs salary because Gormint imposes 100% tax and even if you buy than you cannot even fatten the accelerator because 120 speed limit and bad roads.
You live in a 3 bhk far from city center even though you earn 30 lakhs and that too the flat costs 1.2 cr.
You go out and take a deep breath, smog gets in your lungs and make you sick. There are no national parks and open green spaces nearby and holidays are really costly.
Meanwhile your cousin calls you from Canada and says that v12 engine are a beast to behold.

Your face literally becomes like this.



All of this vs give 15 to 20 lakhs for dunki or even 30 to 40 lakhs for easier transit and live a life of abundance.

Remember the average population density of India is 560 per sq km with bimaru as far as 1200 per sq km.
You are competing with 560 people for resources of that 1 sq km.

Menwhile it's 36 for USA and Canada.

Also the Indian gorimint has a ceiling for how much land you can buy the same jatt in North America can buy unlimited land.

People will always move towards greener pasture.

Also guns. Ammmericcca fuck yeah.

 

[karn]

A little bit of observation. Punjabi Haryavani want to project an image of power wealth and abundance. That means large house in suburbs, expensive cars, farms and luxuries.
There is already a car culture and big house culture in these two states so that translates well into North America where they buy these things specially cars.
A mustang costs around 40 lakhs in Canada but the same for India is 1 cr. So despite being rich states, they cannot douse themselves in luxury in the same way their relatives in foren do.
This creates a cycle of feeling lacking in material wealth and this trigger them to move to greener pastures.

Imagine you work as AC installation technician there and live in a house like the above.
After years of grinding you buy it and 2 cars one mustang and one bmw.
Your children have a decent future in good quality colleges and health-care is free and the service is great.
you go to hiking near beautiful mountains and lakes National Park which is mostly empty. You can buy RV and travel the vast expanses, something next to impossible in India. The weather is great too.

Back in India his cousin graduated from a private college with a debt or 12 to 20 lakhs to grind 5 to 10 years while arriving at a salary of 20 to 40 lakhs. Sitrama Tai steals 30% and you get substandard facility. Healthcare is costly the education is costly and sarkari college is full of soul crushing grind and reservation.
You can never buy a luxury car with 30 lakhs salary because Gormint imposes 100% tax and even if you buy than you cannot even fatten the accelerator because 120 speed limit and bad roads.
You live in a 3 bhk far from city center even though you earn 30 lakhs and that too the flat costs 1.2 cr.
You go out and take a deep breath, smog gets in your lungs and make you sick. There are no national parks and open green spaces nearby and holidays are really costly.
Meanwhile your cousin calls you from Canada and says that v12 engine are a beast to behold.

Your face literally becomes like this.

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All of this vs give 15 to 20 lakhs for dunki or even 30 to 40 lakhs for easier transit and live a life of abundance.

Remember the average population density of India is 560 per sq km with bimaru as far as 1200 per sq km.
You are competing with 560 people for resources of that 1 sq km.

Menwhile it's 36 for USA and Canada.

Also the Indian gorimint has a ceiling for how much land you can buy the same jatt in North America can buy unlimited land.

People will always move towards greener pasture.

Also guns. Ammmericcca fuck yeah.

This part of your argument is absolutely correct.

You can never buy a luxury car with 30 lakhs salary because Gormint imposes 100% tax and even if you buy than you cannot even fatten the accelerator because 120 speed limit and bad roads.
You live in a 3 bhk far from city center even though you earn 30 lakhs and that too the flat costs 1.2 cr.
You go out and take a deep breath, smog gets in your lungs and make you sick. There are no national parks and open green spaces nearby and holidays are really costly.
Meanwhile your cousin calls you from Canada and says that v12 engine are a beast to behold.

For the rest you are straight up hand waving away "years of grinding". My relatives live the life style that you are describing in the US and they are either FAANG employees with 300000k + salaries or C something O of a large company which can approach a million a year.
The blue collar absolutely does not live that well.

 

[Miss Firing]

Bihar's First-Ever Dry Port Sends Leather To Russia, Opening Doors To Global Trade Near Patna​

https://swarajyamag.com/economy/bihars-first-ever-dry-port-sends-leather-to-russia-opening-global-doors

 

[FalconSlayers]

China+1 isn’t coming to India. Let’s go India+2

Manufacturing isn’t coming to India big time, because companies that want an alternative to China prefer Vietnam. But if the mountain won’t come to Mohammed…

www.deccanherald.com

Seems we're more talk than substance

Samsung invests $1.8 billion more in Vietnam for OLED manufacturing plant

Samsung Display Co plans to invest $1.8 billion in a new factory in northern Vietnam to produce OLED displays for automobiles and technology equipment. The facility will be located in Yen Phong industrial park, Bac Ninh province, raising Samsung's total investment in the area to $8.3 billion...

m.economictimes.com

VEPR expects Vietnam's 2024 GDP growth to reach govt target of 7%

Vietnam's GDP growth in Q4 2024 is projected to hit 7.4 per cent in a more optimistic scenario, meeting the government's 7-per cent target set for the year, the Vietnam Institute...

www.fibre2fashion.com

Every day you have such large investments pouring into Vietnam with 14x less population.

Taiwan cooling solution firm AVC doubles Vietnam investment to $400 mln

Asia Vital Components (AVC), a Taiwan-based cooling solution provider, will increase its investment in Vietnam’s northern province of Ha Nam to $400 million.

theinvestor.vn

We can make infinite number of permutation and combination of excuses of "this country is close to this and that country has that", excuses won't fuel economic growth. India isn't competitive enough for export oriented growth.

 

[shade2]

Every day you have such large investments pouring into Vietnam with 14x less population.

Taiwan cooling solution firm AVC doubles Vietnam investment to $400 mln

Asia Vital Components (AVC), a Taiwan-based cooling solution provider, will increase its investment in Vietnam’s northern province of Ha Nam to $400 million.

theinvestor.vn

We can make infinite number of permutation and combination of excuses of "this country is close to this and that country has that", excuses won't fuel economic growth. India isn't competitive enough for export oriented growth.

Yes

Fortunately for us we don't have to depend on export oriented growth like Vietnam or the neighboring choddi-boniyan stitching countries.