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it depends on revenue potential. power gencos and discoms were going bust during UPA, now there is clarity on capex spending on power infra, hence the new factories.

demand and supply.

As of 2022-23, discoms have an outstanding debt worth Rs 6.61 lakh crore, 2.4% of the national GDP. Debt is significantly high in states such as Tamil Nadu (6% of GSDP), Rajasthan (6% of GSDP), and Uttar Pradesh (3% of GSDP).

Is this mainly related to the free subsidies that the farmers and others get or there is more to it ?

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We are seeing very contradictory stance within the Government. We did not allow Chinese car companies investments due to Galwan. Now same people asking us to Join RCEP. At the same time guy like Sanjeev sanyal giving presentation on how RCEP is bane.

Confused babus are part of problem in the nation.

I believe we hit the max level of Industrialization within the existing laws. Labor code are in plate, Contract farming is in discussion. Time for infamous baniya private guys to invest in something called R&D.
Problem is giving positions of powers to baboo(n)s who's biggest "qualification" is passing an exam they were cramming about for years. Modi knows these guys are a problem but can't entirely get rid of the system. At the very best we need to de-babufy India as soon as possible and install industry veterans as technocrats. But it doesn't seem like it will ever happen, since even the lateral entry scheme was removed.
 
As of 2022-23, discoms have an outstanding debt worth Rs 6.61 lakh crore, 2.4% of the national GDP. Debt is significantly high in states such as Tamil Nadu (6% of GSDP), Rajasthan (6% of GSDP), and Uttar Pradesh (3% of GSDP).

Is this mainly related to the free subsidies that the farmers and others get or there is more to it ?

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state gormints do not prioritise paying their dues to gencos, they would rather prioritise spending on vote securing schemes.

but that prs report is not giving the full picture, there will be lag in payment, that is fine. the question is, are payments happening in a timely manner or not. i remember seeing a power ministry report somewhere which gives this data, it gives how much is due per discom per state and for how long.
 
total debts of different countries till 2023 dec:-
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if we see india, most part of debt is internal debts. external debts in 2023 was 648 billion dollars... compare to other countries, who hv external debts in trillions. isnt it give us window to ask for more external debts from different banks, countries nd institute for our growth in future?? i think we r in less risky situation in economy, compare to other major economic countries. ur opinion guys.
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Most of our debt is internal. Also, outstanding debt isn't a reliable metric, we should look at net liabilities of an entity, in this case India. In case of India, our net external liabilities are less than $370 billion. Even that because of mindless increase under scamgress. Just look at what they did during UPA-2.
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By the way NIIP = Net external liabilities = Difference of what world owes to you and what you owe to the world in simple words.
 
state gormints do not prioritise paying their dues to gencos, they would rather prioritise spending on vote securing schemes.

but that prs report is not giving the full picture, there will be lag in payment, that is fine. the question is, are payments happening in a timely manner or not. i remember seeing a power ministry report somewhere which gives this data, it gives how much is due per discom per state and for how long.

According to the report, the average cost of imported coal for India rose to over Rs 12,500 per tonne in FY23 from Rs 8,300 in FY22 and Rs 4,300 in FY21, primarily driven by a rise in Indonesian coal prices that constitutes the majority of the imports.

The rise in power demand also led to an increase in power prices in spot power trading exchanges. “Average exchange prices rose from Rs 4.69 per unit in FY22 to Rs 6.06 per unit in FY23. The rise was much more prevalent in summer months with Q1 prices rising from Rs 3.14 per unit in FY22 to Rs 7.86 per unit in FY23,” the report said.

As discoms pushed all buttons to meet the demand, their total debt rose to Rs 70,000 crore for funding their capital expenditure, working capital requirement, and operational losses. According to the report, five states (Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, and Telangana) accounted for over 89 per cent of the debt increase for the nation. Uttar Pradesh was also among the top five contributors for capex, and its discom was the largest recipient of equity infusion of over Rs 6,500 crore.

Atleast one reason we could see here is the rise in coal prices and the demand adding to it ,

I couldn't find state wise data , just same articles giving a summary of overall lose, what I found was a GOI report in 2022 where they say

20 States/ UTs have no outstanding dues as on 03.06.2022

 
According to the report, the average cost of imported coal for India rose to over Rs 12,500 per tonne in FY23 from Rs 8,300 in FY22 and Rs 4,300 in FY21, primarily driven by a rise in Indonesian coal prices that constitutes the majority of the imports.

The rise in power demand also led to an increase in power prices in spot power trading exchanges. “Average exchange prices rose from Rs 4.69 per unit in FY22 to Rs 6.06 per unit in FY23. The rise was much more prevalent in summer months with Q1 prices rising from Rs 3.14 per unit in FY22 to Rs 7.86 per unit in FY23,” the report said.

As discoms pushed all buttons to meet the demand, their total debt rose to Rs 70,000 crore for funding their capital expenditure, working capital requirement, and operational losses. According to the report, five states (Andhra Pradesh, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, Tamil Nadu, and Telangana) accounted for over 89 per cent of the debt increase for the nation. Uttar Pradesh was also among the top five contributors for capex, and its discom was the largest recipient of equity infusion of over Rs 6,500 crore.

Atleast one reason we could see here is the rise in coal prices and the demand adding to it ,

I couldn't find state wise data , just same articles giving a summary of overall lose, what I found was a GOI report in 2022 where they say

20 States/ UTs have no outstanding dues as on 03.06.2022


here you go

 
Problem is giving positions of powers to baboo(n)s who's biggest "qualification" is passing an exam they were cramming about for years. Modi knows these guys are a problem but can't entirely get rid of the system. At the very best we need to de-babufy India as soon as possible and install industry veterans as technocrats. But it doesn't seem like it will ever happen, since even the lateral entry scheme was removed.

Niti Ayog wallahs do not yield that much power when it comes to decisionmaking - it is the PMO and the PM himself who decide on the broad policy calls. One lone loose cannon running his mouth does not mean much.

The one place that's being truly conpromised by the babudom is the Finance Ministry. The incumbent FM is a lightweight and babus are having a field day.
 

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