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What is needed is spin off turbo prop engines from Kaveri Engine Core. Planes are build around engines, Establish base lines home grown engines and design planes around them as first iteration- and for first iteration forgo world class.

Afraid to experiment with human lives - go for large scaled unmanned/RPA aircraft and test your engines on them. Even think about unmanned Transport. Its time to go unorthodox


Gas Trubines will involve multiple static tests before going to On air testing. So if we are building Engines so we will have large number of static tests.

Engine is one part. But what about Plane body, Avionics is major part and Millions of parts and supplier base which were simply tuned to supply only to Boeing and Aribus.

One way is to derive learning from Tejas Composite body to commercial airlines. Avionics is heavy weight work and requires major support.

How to deal with vendors is next big ask?

GOI footing the bill is the only answer. An NAL project with HAL, TASL as production partner will work out. But which aircraft we need to target. A320/B737 or small 100 seater like Embraer or simple Turbo prop like ATRs.
 
Gas Trubines will involve multiple static tests before going to On air testing. So if we are building Engines so we will have large number of static tests.

Engine is one part. But what about Plane body, Avionics is major part and Millions of parts and supplier base which were simply tuned to supply only to Boeing and Aribus.

One way is to derive learning from Tejas Composite body to commercial airlines. Avionics is heavy weight work and requires major support.

How to deal with vendors is next big ask?

GOI footing the bill is the only answer. An NAL project with HAL, TASL as production partner will work out. But which aircraft we need to target. A320/B737 or small 100 seater like Embraer or simple Turbo prop like ATRs.
Partner with Embraer for making transport aircraft and tankers, from ERJ 145 to C-390, in exchange for SSLV/PSLV technology. That is the one way I see. Brazil would definitely want a piece of the space industry pie and we can provide it, in exchange for giving us aircraft manufacturing capabilities. "ISRO's cost effective launches" advantage vanished or would vanish with Falcon 9 or Starship anyway, and even if Brazil gives Musk the permanent cold-shoulder (likely), the Chinese and Blue Origin would permanently keep us at bay.
 

India's own JSTOR - what is the One Nation, One Subscription scheme for Indian academics​


View: https://youtu.be/gj3YYlNPhQ0

Cabinet approves One Nation One Subscription (ONOS)​



Very good initiative. I hope he funds R&D. I have a friend who is a physicist, PhD from a very good institution. He is interviewing for a prestigious American company (everybody will know of this if they are on twitter). I have been trying to convince him to go to IIT lol
 
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Current (but not exhaustive) pipeline of Battery cell manufacturing projects in India:

> Ola Cell: 20 GWh (PLI)
> Reliance: 10 + 40 GWh (PLI)
> Agratas (Tata): 20 + 20 GWh
> Exide: 12 GWh
> Amara Raja: 16 (+5?) GWh
> JSW Battery Storage Systems: 50 GWh


With GoI planning further auctioning of 20 GWh capacity in PLI.


Another less talked accomplishment of Indian govt.
Just realised how shameless these opium traders are.
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India as an Alternative to China

The idea of India serving as an alternative to China for Western manufacturing exists but faces significant hurdles. Over the past 30 years, China has achieved phenomenal progress in industrial and manufacturing capabilities, making it nearly impossible for India to match that level within a decade or so.

India’s manufacturing sector lags significantly behind China. Moreover, China holds a near-monopoly on critical raw materials, such as lithium for batteries and rare earth metals essential for military systems, consumer electronics, and renewable energy technologies etc.. With the largest known reserves of these minerals, China has solidified its dominance in high-tech industries.

China strategically transferred consumer goods manufacturing from the West, and used export revenue to build infrastructure and more industry. It used low currency conversion rate to price its manufactured goods cheap in the international markets. Much of the products shipped out were replicate of Western technology but the West thought that it was alright as long as they got cheap products. As Chinese experience grew they ventured into high technology items, often copying the products abroad and again selling them at a lower price. Hence, Chinese progress was phenomenal for the past 20 years.

The electric vehicle (EV) industry exemplifies this approach. By acquiring expertise from Tesla’s Chinese plant, China built its own EV plants without significant R&D costs. Similarly, in electronics, China dominates as the world’s largest exporter, accounting for 33% of global exports in 2022. Its industrial base and government support make it difficult for others, including India, to compete.

Alternative India:

India remains in a nascent stage, primarily assembling imported components. For example, phones, LCD screens, LEDs, and other electronics rely heavily on Chinese imports. This dependency underscores India’s limited role in the global manufacturing value chain.

China’s dependence on exports to the West, coupled with the West’s shift away from single-source supply chains, presents a significant opportunity for India to establish itself as a key player in high-value supply chains. However, several challenges persist. The West’s deep financial investment in China—exceeding $1 trillion between 1995 and 2015—and India’s historically restrictive business regulations under its democratic framework have slowed progress. That said, the landscape is evolving. While amending laws enacted through the previous parliamentary process remains a complex and time-consuming task, reforms are underway. As a result, the West is increasingly viewing India as a viable alternative.

The notion of “Alternative India” gained traction after COVID-19 disrupted China’s supply chain, but meaningful shifts have yet to occur. Without substantial investment and policy reforms, India will struggle to attract the manufacturing base it seeks.

The only scenarios likely to disrupt China’s export dominance are war, significant trade barriers, or targeted tariffs, such as those, as media alleges, to be imposed by incoming U.S. President Trump. However, such measures risk destabilizing global supply chains, making them politically and economically unviable at the outset. But cleverly thought out plan of tariffs will do the job.

India’s rise will depend on leveraging its strengths and developing niches where it can excel. While it may never fully catch up with China, it can carve out its own space in the global economy by focusing on areas where it can compete effectively.
 
The idea of India serving as an alternative to China for Western manufacturing exists but faces significant hurdles. Over the past 30 years, China has achieved phenomenal progress in industrial and manufacturing capabilities, making it nearly impossible for India to match that level within a decade or so.

India cannot bridge the gap with China when it has one of the lowest college enrollment rates amongst the major economies. For every 100 below-23 age group ,only about 30 goto college, and even amongst them, the majority pursue worthless arts and humanities degree


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A massive youth population,almost entirely unskilled and poorly educated would be a massive roadblock in pursuing the dream of becoming the next manufacturing hub.
 
India cannot bridge the gap with China when it has one of the lowest college enrollment rates amongst the major economies. For every 100 below-23 age group ,only about 30 goto college, and even amongst them, the majority pursue worthless arts and humanities degree


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A massive youth population,almost entirely unskilled and poorly educated would be a massive roadblock in pursuing the dream of becoming the next manufacturing hub.

in absolute numbers, not much difference between china and India in higher education enrollment.

India - 4.3 crore(2021)
china - 4.7 crore(2023)

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1999713

 
India cannot bridge the gap with China when it has one of the lowest college enrollment rates amongst the major economies. For every 100 below-23 age group ,only about 30 goto college, and even amongst them, the majority pursue worthless arts and humanities degree


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A massive youth population,almost entirely unskilled and poorly educated would be a massive roadblock in pursuing the dream of becoming the next manufacturing hub.
Yep, majority of our students are in useless social sciences :

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in absolute numbers, not much difference between china and India in higher education enrollment.

India - 4.3 crore(2021)
china - 4.7 crore(2023)

https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1999713

China has 7.8 crore people between 20-24 age, India 12.9 crore.


 
China has 7.8 crore people between 20-24 age, India 12.9 crore.



we will have to wait for next census, to exact number. current data is projections based on 13 years old base numbers.

even if these numbers are correct, what is the inference here?

considering ..
-manufacturing jobs are driven by demand.
-India is not an manufacturing based economy, it is a consumption economy, meaning there will be service jobs.
-unemployment is high in this age group, but by the time they reach 30 they do find a job.
-just because china followed a particular path, doesn't mean India will do the same.
 

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