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SKC said:
Noida Airport is focused on freights transport more than the passenger traffic. It can manage with the one terminal for some time.​
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in long term it is focused on passenger traffic, it has vision to have 3+ terminal along with 3 terminals of delhi igi. but in short term it may be cargo as public transport connectivity is negative. its literally 2 hours from igi. 90 kms from there, noida airport is not even in noida lol, leave aside the target audience of delhi and ncr. metro/rrts and bullet train are still atleast 7-8 years away. metro dpr is there, bullet train construction would start only after whole mahsr is ready and when it starts giving data. metro/rrts is minimum 5 years away, idk who will use this for domestic flight, for ex if you want to go from noida to mumbai, flight costs 3500-4000, but the taxi from delhi to jewar would cost half of it. here in mumbai i pay 1000 rs for taxi to airport which is nearly 30 kms.

i am praying that noida airport expansion plans and phases dont get cancelled due to initial low response. noida needs to expand towards jewar side and metro should be brought asap for this airport route, and not only airport to airport.
 
liberalredditor said:
in long term it is focused on passenger traffic, it has vision to have 3+ terminal along with 3 terminals of delhi igi. but in short term it may be cargo as public transport connectivity is negative. its literally 2 hours from igi. 90 kms from there, noida airport is not even in noida lol, leave aside the target audience of delhi and ncr. metro/rrts and bullet train are still atleast 7-8 years away. metro dpr is there, bullet train construction would start only after whole mahsr is ready and when it starts giving data. metro/rrts is minimum 5 years away, idk who will use this for domestic flight, for ex if you want to go from noida to mumbai, flight costs 3500-4000, but the taxi from delhi to jewar would cost half of it. here in mumbai i pay 1000 rs for taxi to airport which is nearly 30 kms.

i am praying that noida airport expansion plans and phases dont get cancelled due to initial low response. noida needs to expand towards jewar side and metro should be brought asap for this airport route, and not only airport to airport.
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They may have projected significant potential for the airport initially, but in practice, it will face considerable challenges in diverting substantial passenger traffic from IGI.
Even though I reside in Greater Noida, Jewar Airport is actually farther for me than IGI, and it currently lacks regular and convenient connectivity to the main city.
 
SKC said:
Jewar Airport is actually farther for me than IGI, and it currently lacks regular and convenient connectivity to the main city.
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the biggest issue is this, maybe those who book international flights worth 40-50k can spend extra 2-3k for taxi, but for domestic ops, its a big L

here in mumbai, even if navi mumbai airport is 30-40 km far, like max 1.5 hours, they are still doing rr that how can they demolish t1, why should we go to navi mumbai to catch flights, its logical for those who reside in virar, borivali and maybe thane too, but its illogical that rest of the mumbai is crying, we wont go to navi mumbai. navi mumbai airport is well connected by atal setu to south mumbai at sewri side of mumbai port. easily the people of dadar, parel, worli can go to navi mumbai. as for rest of mumbai, they can come from vashi bridge and then palm beach which is toll free.
 
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shuturmurg said:
Serious question, can anyone here explain why Kerala is much cleaner than other South Indian states, given its actually poorer than Karnataka, Telangana and Tamil Nadu. Is it cultural or somehow their municipalities function properly ?
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One reason is they dump their garbage in Karnataka and Tamil Nadu. Not saying this is the only reason, this is one of the reasons.

www.deccanherald.com

Despite alerts, Kerala's waste continues to threaten Karnataka environment

On Monday, six trucks carrying tonnes of plastic and other non-biodegradable materials from Kerala were seized near the Mulehole checkpost in Gundlupet.
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thesouthfirst.com

Kerala’s interstate waste dumping shame: State looks at online tracking tech

Karnataka State Pollution Control Board officials recently seized lorries from Kerala carrying plastic waste at Mulehole in Gundlupet.
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indianexpress.com

Medical waste from Kerala dumped in Tamil Nadu: Green tribunal issues ultimatum

A bench of the NGT instructed Kerala to either retrieve the waste or enter into an agreement with Tamil Nadu’s Common Biomedical Waste Treatment Facility for safe disposal.
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www.deccanherald.com

After NGT rap, Kerala takes back dumped waste from Tamil Nadu

Sources in the district administration told DH that trucks hired by the Kerala government began loading the waste on Sunday evening and the last of the 23 vehicles left for the neighbouring state on Monday afternoon.
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We are 100% literate saar. We made our state very clean saar without building any solid waste management plants, plastic recycling plants, biowaste treatment plants. We just dump our waste in other states saar.
 
haldilal said:
Ya'll Nibbiars RRTS in current form has a hugh limitations and Why Politicans are the main factor for it that's are as Follows.

1 . Station platforms can support only upto 8 rakes.

2 . Each car capacity due to seating layout is limited to only 300 with standing that gives 1,800 pax current capacity per rake as current one are 6 car rakes.

3 . Narrow body limits the internal volume, even Mumbai Suburban sized cars runs on standard Gauge of many European cities with higher capacity I.E. Denmark.

4 . Signalling system limits numbers of services can be operated per hour.

5 . Per hour currently capacity is just 22.5K, even if rakes are expanded to 9 and interval reduced to just 5 minutes maximum allowed by the system still it's per hour capacity is just 57.6K.

6 . With the current trend in the ridership this could be achieved within a decade and after that it will be capacity crunch due to system can't be expanded beyond that.

7 . Another issue is the Intergation of much slower Meerut Metro on same line which will not allowed to even reach the above mentioned numbers so it will be Limited to below 40K pax per hour so rush hour will become another Mumbai Local with Cattle classes.

8 . By Comprasion Mumbai Suburban New AC Rakes will be all 12 cars with each of 400 Pax capacity per car and overall 4,800 pax per rakes and headway can be just 1.5 minutes during the Rush hour.

9 . And remember Mumbai lines are quad pack so overalls capacity will be 2.4 Lakhs Per hours with newer AC Rakes.

10 . The NCRTC after seeing the Meerut line response decide to rectify the above points with longer platforms for 12 car rakes, different signaling system to allow lower headway and change in seating layout to accommodate more passenger by few planners.

11 . But after seeing Higher cost due to changes in design and UP and Haryana Government pressure to include the Noida Metro and Gurgaum Metro line sharing with Jewar and Alwar RRTS has resulted in the specification remain unchanged.

12 . At this rate RRTS might Hit it's capacity crunch soon and then not able to coupe due to core design issues.

First Lines in the system are always a trial one with many trial and errors and have to learn lessons from it, but politicans are not allowing it to rectify.

For Comprasion PRC long Metro also known as Express Metro lines with 70 to 120 KM length have higher capacity with 400 pax per car and runs 12 cars rakes so it has 4,800 pax per train and it’s signalling system support and headway as low as 1.5 minutes. And their station are also as far as RRTS with speed of 130 KMPH so even they have similar travelling time along with higher capacity simiar to a Mumbai Suburban trains.

Mumbai planned RRTS might not face this issues as the lesson taken from the first RRTS will be implemented here. But NCRTC planners are struggling to coupe with government pressure.
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delhi-meerut RRTS is 82 km long nd it cost us 30274 crore rupee (or 3.8 billion dollars). so per kilometre that cost us 46 million dollar. isnt it very costly???

compaire to it delhi to Ahmedabad bullet train is 508 km long. it cost us 108000 crore rupee (13 billion dollars). so per kilometre that cost us 26 million dollars. 😱😳.
seems like making bullet trains is cheaper than RRTS.
 
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vin pahadi (kumauni) said:
delhi-meerut RRTS is 82 km long nd it cost us 30274 crore rupee (or 3.8 billion dollars). so per kilometre that cost us 46 million dollar. isnt it very costly???

compaire to it delhi to Ahmedabad bullet train is 508 km long started. it cost us 108000 crore rupee (13 billion dollars). so per kilometre that cost us 26 million dollars. 😱😳.
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I think part of it is to do with procurement cost of land which is higher in cities also metro handles more traffic per day than HSR ever will.
 
shade2 said:

View: https://x.com/KantInEastt/status/1943207765855654228

Is this true?
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seems to be true, commie media has gone drunk mad

m.thewire.in

ST Commission Refuses to Share Info on Impact of Proposed Great Nicobar Projects on Island Tribes - The Wire

An RTI request to the National Commission for Scheduled Tribes was met with justifications including “breach of parliamentary privilege”.
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but be ready for muh democratic independent supreme kotha to order the release of full blue prints of the project to promote "transparency" in strategic projects.
 
liberalredditor said:
seems to be true, commie media has gone drunk mad

m.thewire.in

ST Commission Refuses to Share Info on Impact of Proposed Great Nicobar Projects on Island Tribes - The Wire

An RTI request to the National Commission for Scheduled Tribes was met with justifications including “breach of parliamentary privilege”.
m.thewire.in m.thewire.in

but be ready for muh democratic independent supreme kotha to order the release of full blue prints of the project to promote "transparency" in strategic projects.
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Government always has national security card in hands. They can shut SC's mouth with that. Previously there have been such attempt at SC to get information about strategic islands by certain Andolanjeevis. Govt simply refused to listen to SC's antics by citing NatSec. They can do that for this too. + There is always behind the scene deal with the judges.
 
redpanda said:
Government always has national security card in hands. They can shut SC's mouth with that. Previously there have been such attempt at SC to get information about strategic islands by certain Andolanjeevis. Govt simply refused to listen to SC's antics by citing NatSec. They can do that for this too. + There is always behind the scene deal with the judges.
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Nicobar needs a large tri-forces base along with living facilities for their families.
They are also building a proper city there but these armed forces families should be the nucleus.

My point is we need to settle lots of people there.
 
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