Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

shade2 said:
Y'all nibbiars, is it possible to add bigger/wider lifts to INS Vikrant in a refit?

Approximately how many months would this take, assuming we have some foreign shipyard that did the same thing

I remember seeing discussions about this but maybe those were on Shaheed DFI which is in website heaven right now
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After decision has been made, Can 8-12 month year of from planning to completion.
First 2-3 months of redesigning and beaurocracy and finding shipyard, making a deal etc and 5+months of carrier being docked and worked.

After refit trails will also happen.

But refiting most likely won't happen, as future fighters instead will be created with folding wings.

Even a large fighter like chinese j15( flanker )can fit in vikrant's lift with folded wings.
 
vampyrbladez said:

View: https://x.com/Iyervval/status/1916823812772859997
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Some interesting information on the Rafale M and it's solution to the aircraft carrier lift accommodation issue.
  • India's Dassault Rafale M will have detachable wingtips
  • Designed for INS Vikrant since the lifts are in the starboard side (aircraft 'hang' off the lift)
  • Mig 29K will primarily be based off the INS Vikramaditya
Despite recent reports that the two Western MRCBF competitors could operate from INS Vikramaditya in addition to the Indian Navy’s future carriers, this is simply not possible. The converted Soviet-era ‘aircraft carrying cruiser’ has two aircraft elevators that are located within the flight deck, instead of on the deck-edges, and both are too small to accommodate either the Super Hornet or the Rafale. The larger forward lift, beside the carrier’s superstructure, is 18.8 x 9.9 metres, while the Super Hornet’s wings fold to just under 10 metres and the Rafale’s wings, slightly less than 11 metres wide, do not fold at all. The aft lift is narrower, with an 8.6-metre width that is barely able to fit the MiG-29K’s 7.5-metre folded span. The Naval LCA, with a wingspan of a little over eight metres, would certainly have fit the forward lift if not the aft one – the Navy prefers for aircraft carrier elevators to be sufficiently larger than the aircraft they will carry for ease of aircraft handling and movement.
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The real ‘show stopper’ for the entire MRCBF requirement, however, is the configuration of IAC-1. Unlike Vikramaditya, and like most contemporary carriers, the aircraft lifts on IAC-1 are positioned on the starboard edge of the deck allowing longer aircraft to ‘hang out’ over the water with only their landing gear on the platform. But because the carrier was designed around an air wing of MiG-29Ks and Naval LCAs, the lifts were sized for wingspans no larger than eight metres. 10 x 14 metres, to be precise. While MiG-29Ks and N-LCAs can fit on these lifts with parts of their noses or empennages hanging over the edges, the Super Hornet and Rafale once again cannot.
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Both Boeing and Dassault are apparently working on solutions to allow their aircraft to fit the lifts. Sources close to the programme said that Boeing is considering a system that would allow the Super Horner to sit canted on the lift, the tilt of the (folded) wings thereby resulting in a slightly shorter overall span measured parallel to the deck. With its fixed wings, the Rafale cannot offer such a solution, and Dassault is understood to be exploring a detachable wingtip, although this involves greater engineering and certification challenges.
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https://stratpost.com/failure-to-launch/
 
vampyrbladez said:
Some interesting information on the Rafale M and it's solution to the aircraft carrier lift accommodation issue.
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What Navy needs to do is haul Vikrant back to Kochi for an emergency refit. The Super Hornet probably didn't manage to take off with much payload. Leaving the Rafale M and detachable wingtip shenanigans.
 
Corvus Splendens said:
What Navy needs to do is haul Vikrant back to Kochi for an emergency refit. The Super Hornet probably didn't manage to take off with much payload. Leaving the Rafale M and detachable wingtip shenanigans.
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That would be a multi year refit nibba.
 
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