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You are not understanding about tonnage. Its not about Tonnage that makes a ship expensive. Its about Electronics and Propulsion. Especially when in a ASW asset, the majority of expenses goes for Radar, SAM, TAS, HMS, Torpedoes, Gold Plated ASW Helicopters, Raft Mountings. For any ship
1. First we choose the speed regime aka what kind of speeds it would be operated? Max speeds and such.
2. After that we choose what kind of propulsion systems are available to us whether LM2500 or MT30 or Zorya Gas Turbines. When we narrow down the propulsion,
3. Then we select a Tonnage based on that. In the curve of returns vs tonnage, there is a ideal tonnage at which we get maximum returns based on speed and propulsion.

My entire argument is based on that if the Next Generation Corvette has same CODAD propulsion as Kamorta Class then the following paragraph is not applicable. Otherwise if it had some 2xLM2500, then it would be incredibly wasteful to waste the power on a lower tonnage platform like some 4000 or 5000 tons afterall how much more speed does Navy need other than going above 30knots?. If speed is the issue then the Nilgiri Class has whooping 32knots in speed ideal for Wide Area ASW for some 6500tons.

If Navy's goal is a Oceangoing ASW ship, then they should go all out and build some 6500ton ship. Afterall compared to a 4500/5000 tonish ship, it uses atmost more steel and silencing measures with same propulsion of 2xLM2500, isn't it? A Larger tonnage means more range and endurance to venture beyond Bay of Bengal and Indian Ocean into chokepoints like Malacca and Indonesian Archipelago where PLAN SSK lurk.

With such size they can include a Multi Mission Bay like Type 26 where it can launch LUUVs infront of Helicopter Bay. The cost factor doesn't make sense for me.
As @Binayak95 sire already suggested the max speed for anti sub operations is around 25kn (obviously due to many reasons sonar searching is a very complex process)

From mumbai port to malacca its 1500-1700nm and we probably have some kinds of refuelling stations in Nicobar too

The cost per nilgiri is 1.1 billion $ for smaller ngc there isnt a single role its a multi-purpose ship ie like most of our frigates

Most of our corvettes are land attack one komorta are anti sub corvettes adding more dedicated vessels is waste of money since the number of modern vessels is still low

We are still running old soviet styled ddg and leander derivative Brahmaputra class
 
Getting commissioned with 76mm pichkari rather than initially planned 127mm gun.

Is it important?.. guns on ships are insignificant in comparison for combat. It'll take out pirate boats easy enough & Shivalik's gun won for accuracy at RIMPAC24.

How will a slightly larger gun help? Maybe if we use anti-air airburst shells for drone/missile swarms it'll be better.
 


Weapons fitment from April 2024

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Weapons fitment from August 2024 sea trials

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Are large supersonic missiles like the brahmos better than smaller subsonic missiles? We have using brahmos till now due to the lack of a proper modern subsonic ASM, brahmos is great but is the cost and space it takes on the ships that economical?
 
Is it important?.. guns on ships are insignificant in comparison for combat. It'll take out pirate boats easy enough & Shivalik's gun won for accuracy at RIMPAC24.

How will a slightly larger gun help? Maybe if we use anti-air airburst shells for drone/missile swarms it'll be better.
It will actually be worse

127mm guns usually have fire rate of 60 RPM, but the 76mms can fire around 200.
 

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