Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

[Fatalis]

https://swarajyamag.com/defence/wha...ile-that-india-just-tested-for-the-first-time
Around 20 additional test flights are planned for LRLACMs to fine-tune the missile's performance, which also includes terminal homing through an indigenous radio-frequency seeker.

According to sources, the Indian Navy is expected to order around 200 LRLACMs, worth approximately Rs 5,000 crore, once DRDO completes the missile's trials.

The LRLACM is a Defence Acquisition Council-approved, AoN-sanctioned Mission Mode project with a set timeline for entry into service.

IMO, IN won't put additional UVLM on the capital ships instead the present arrangement will share the and LRLACM together.

 

[Binayak95]

IMO, IN won't put additional UVLM on the capital ships instead the present arrangement will share the and LRLACM together.

we dont seem to be interested in quadpacking AD missiles in cells either.

 

[Ayan Barat]

IMO, IN won't put additional UVLM on the capital ships instead the present arrangement will share the and LRLACM together

BrahMos is cold-launched and Nirbhay is hot-launch.
The current BrahMos UVLM can easily launch a Nirbhay...but for just once.

we dont seem to be interested in quadpacking AD missiles in cells either

Again, all of our AD missile from Barak to VL-SRSAM are hot lunch.

It'll be a VLS ko jala kar raakh kar dunga Sir

 

[Blood+]

we dont seem to be interested in quadpacking AD missiles in cells either.

Yeah, but they should though, no?? I mean these ships are meant to provide air defense cover for the carriers after all.

 

[Binayak95]

Yeah, but they should though, no?? I mean these ships are meant to provide air defense cover for the carriers after all.

We will need to make all the UVLS hot launch capable.

 

[Blood+]

We will need to make all the UVLS hot launch capable.

That's a given.

 

[Blood+]

@Binayak95 By the way, do you have any idea about how much a Barak 8 may be going for these days??

 

[Bleh]

Each SSK is costing around $1 billion, and we lack the manufacturing efficiency that China, Korea, or Japan have in building them cost-effectively. Investing $1 billion per SSK doesn’t make financial sense when compared to the returns on a $3 billion SSN, which offers far greater value for the investment.

In the current scenario, I'll take 3 AIP SSK over 1 SSN any day of the week... twice in Sundays.
SSN don't offer anything major other then higher top-speeds (which render them loud & deaf for the time). Capability to sprint & do extra long ops would be helpful in sub at Pacific, but we're a green water Navy & so is our immediate naval capability requirement.

Indian Navy operated the Akula 1&2 SSNs for decades & never pushed for more. Even now they're only asking for 2... A reduced nuumber from the original 6. Option for special missions i suppose.

 

[Suryavanshi]

@Binayak95 yo I think I have asked this question before but I'm gonna ask again.

What is the shortest possible time in which we can sink every PN navy vessel given that IN uses all its might.

Let's say all of PN surface vessel, supplier ship, tankers, port facilities, Submarines are taken out. How much time and money will it take them to get back on their feet.

 

[Blood+]

@Binayak95 yo I think I have asked this question before but I'm gonna ask again.

What is the shortest possible time in which we can sink every PN navy vessel given that IN uses all its might.

Let's say all of PN surface vessel, supplier ship, tankers, port facilities, Submarines are taken out. How much time and money will it take them to get back on their feet.

I think a single MKI squadron could turn the entire PN surface fleet into diver attractions in just one sortie. @Binayak95 , what say you??

 

[shade2]

we dont seem to be interested in quadpacking AD missiles in cells either.

Which missile in service or development is small enough to fit for quadpacking, assuming they would do it?
SRSAM? QRSAM? Barak-1?

 

[Blood+]

Which missile in service or development is small enough to fit for quadpacking, assuming they would do it?
SRSAM? QRSAM? Barak-1?

VL-SRSAM - most certainly.
Barak 8 - only if we go for bigger VLS cells like the Mk-57 system of USN. (It may come as a surprise, but Barak 8s actually have smaller diameter than ESSM but since the former has fins, it'll require more space but not by much).

 

[Bleh]

Nope...this is Russian "UVLM"
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Just two types of missiles; BrahMos and Kalibr family. Theoretically can also fire Zircon but that's a different saga in itself.

This whole idea of Russian named their VLS Universal so they can fire SAMs too seems to be either based on some early concept that never materialized or is just pure internet lore.

Currently there are only five active VLS that can be termed a true Universal VLS because they can fire everything from cruse missile to SAM to ABM are:
> Mk-41 (or Mk-57) - USA and almost all other ships
> Sylver - European Union
> K-VLS - South Korea
> GJB 5860-2006 - China
> MIDLAS - Turkish copy of Mk-41

This is what I have been saying as well. It is more practical to have two types of UVLS strike missiles AShM & AShBM... Other for smaller platform like various SAMs & BMD.

We'll be needing AShBM & BMD onboard our ships very soon. Have no doubt. Anti-sub Kamorta Class platform may be expanded to an Air-defence escort as well.

 

[Suryavanshi]

I ask this because I want to know if there is an option to sink entire PN instead of doing balakot Drama next time.

Essentially bankrupt the Pakistani Economy by having them replenish their fleet again.
Paki should get used to eating mud instead of grass to supports its fauj.

 

[shade2]

I ask this because I want to know if there is an option to sink entire PN instead of doing balakot Drama next time.

Essentially bankrupt the Pakistani Economy by having them replenish their fleet again.
Paki should get used to eating mud instead of grass to supports its fauj.

Mudi baba must complete the Trilogy

Uri : Army
Balakot : Air Force
Karachi : Navy

 

[Bleh]

I think a single MKI squadron could turn the entire PN surface fleet into diver attractions in just one sortie. @Binayak95 , what say you??

Bit much... You may be underestimating Chinese EW & AAMs. I have notice that in the test the used to cover the target with metal nets to enhance its RCS. Altho I am not sure how much they have tested the BrahMos against potential countermeasures and EW, we ourselves have tested SAMs to down sea-skimming supersonic targets... No reason to think they can't

 

[Blood+]

Mudi baba must complete the Trilogy

Uri : Army
Balakot : Air Force
Karachi : Navy

Nah, Karachi should be a double penetration (Navy and Air Force).

 

[Bleh]

View: https://x.com/AjayshreeSamby3/status/1857452815141974347?t=eR3OO2-trauoG-xemVp5bw&s=19

P-17B news confirmed then. They're saying more SAMs & this

 

[Suryavanshi]

Mudi baba must complete the Trilogy

Uri : Army
Balakot : Air Force
Karachi : Navy

Easy publicity as well since it will be visible

 

[jaijaganath]

I think a single MKI squadron could turn the entire PN surface fleet into diver attractions in just one sortie. @Binayak95 , what say you??

@Binayak95 yo I think I have asked this question before but I'm gonna ask again.

What is the shortest possible time in which we can sink every PN navy vessel given that IN uses all its might.

Let's say all of PN surface vessel, supplier ship, tankers, port facilities, Submarines are taken out. How much time and money will it take them to get back on their feet.

As we see today's war and conflicts around the world there is no walkover
Infact when fight is in high seas and coupled with modern day technology and electronics it's way more different and tedious
Yeah we have completed numerical advantage over porkies but thinking we will sink entire fleet without losses and and in short time, it's not possible
We can destroy their ports ships and cause significant damage but there will be cost for it too