Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

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Is there a reason why we haven't changed AK630 chassis to a more stealthy design like cheenis?


I'd assume this doesn't bring much benefit so Navy/suppliers haven't bothered.
The 76mm OTO melara gun comes with stealth housing tho.

 

[Miss Firing]

Indian Navy Submarine Collides With Fishing Boat Off Goa, 2 Fishermen Missing​

Video | Indian Navy Submarine Collides With Fishing Boat Off Goa, 2 Fishermen Missing

An Indian fishing vessel with a crew of 13 collided with an Indian Naval submarine near the Goa coast, officials said today. A massive search and rescue operation has been launched by the Indian Navy, which has deployed six ships and aircraft. While 11 crew have been rescued, two are still missing.

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An Indian fishing vessel with a crew of 13 collided with an Indian Naval submarine near the Goa coast, officials said today. A massive search and rescue operation has been launched by the Indian Navy, which has deployed six ships and aircraft. While 11 crew have been rescued, two are still missing.

 

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Indian Navy Submarine Collides With Fishing Boat Off Goa, 2 Fishermen Missing​

Video | Indian Navy Submarine Collides With Fishing Boat Off Goa, 2 Fishermen Missing

An Indian fishing vessel with a crew of 13 collided with an Indian Naval submarine near the Goa coast, officials said today. A massive search and rescue operation has been launched by the Indian Navy, which has deployed six ships and aircraft. While 11 crew have been rescued, two are still missing.

www.ndtv.com

An Indian fishing vessel with a crew of 13 collided with an Indian Naval submarine near the Goa coast, officials said today. A massive search and rescue operation has been launched by the Indian Navy, which has deployed six ships and aircraft. While 11 crew have been rescued, two are still missing.

How does this happen, while surfacing?
I guess bots had no way of being aware of the submarine

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Is there a reason why we haven't changed AK630 chassis to a more stealthy design like cheenis?
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I'd assume this doesn't bring much benefit so Navy/suppliers haven't bothered.
The 76mm OTO melara gun comes with stealth housing tho.

What's the point of making the CIWS stealthy, when the your ship isn't much stealthy to begin with.

 

[Bleh]

Is there a reason why we haven't changed AK630 chassis to a more stealthy design like cheenis?
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I'd assume this doesn't bring much benefit so Navy/suppliers haven't bothered.
The 76mm OTO melara gun comes with stealth housing tho.

Because it's pointless... Will make your ship 0.01% stealthier.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Is there a reason why we haven't changed AK630 chassis to a more stealthy design like cheenis?

Yes; but first tell me where exactly are those AK-630s in the pic below

I've said multiple times before and will say it again...Kolkata Class is not a stealth ship, neither is Shivalik or Type-055 or Type-45 or Constellation. No matter how much media, defence expert or even the navy itself claim them to be "stealth" they're not.

In the whole naval history of mankind only a handful of vessels have managed to be stealthy.




...and that would be like 85% of all the stealth ships to have ever sailed.

And if your ship is not this level of stealthy then there's absolutely no rationale in spending resources to make smaller subsystems on it stealthy.

 

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What's the point of making the CIWS stealthy, when the your ship isn't much stealthy to begin with.

Because it's pointless... Will make your ship 0.01% stealthier.

Yes; but first tell me where exactly are those AK-630s in the pic below
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I've said multiple times before and will say it again...Kolkata Class is not a stealth ship, neither is Shivalik or Type-055 or Type-45 or Constellation. No matter how much media, defence expert or even the navy itself claim them to be "stealth" they're not.

In the whole naval history of mankind only a handful of vessels have managed to be stealthy.
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...and that would be like 85% of all the stealth ships to have ever sailed.

And if your ship is not this level of stealthy then there's absolutely no rationale in spending resources to make smaller subsystems on it stealthy.

Thanks y'all nibbiars for answers, was reading earlier pages of this thread and there also was an argument there that our ships are not stealth or low observation and even if they are it's pointless because of formations and all

 

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Thanks y'all nibbiars for answers, was reading earlier pages of this thread and there also was an argument there that our ships are not stealth or low observation and even if they are it's pointless because of formations and all

Even Zumwalt has the signature comparable to a fishing-trawler... Not very helpful when you have a shitfucking powerful radar on top sweeping the ocean. Your radar will be detected even if your on comm. silence

 

[Corvus Splendens]

Even Zumwalt has the signature comparable to a fishing-trawler... Not very helpful when you have a shitfucking powerful radar on top sweeping the ocean. Your radar will be detected even if your on comm. silence

The Zumwalt has zero advantage in a combat zone. It's fishing boat signature won't be ignored in hot seas.

 

[VictorDelta4]

Submarine incident update



View: https://x.com/neeraj_rajput/status/1860009182378045797

 

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Submarine incident update
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View: https://x.com/neeraj_rajput/status/1860009182378045797

View: https://x.com/neeraj_rajput/status/1860009216619983044



Good sub didn't sustain damage to cause costly and time consuming repairs

 

[VictorDelta4]

View: https://x.com/neeraj_rajput/status/1860009216619983044

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Good sub didn't sustain damage to cause costly and time consuming repairs

Yup that is a good sign but the failure of sensors and proximity alarms(?) should be a cause of concern.

 

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Yup that is a good sign but the failure of sensors and proximity alarms(?) should be a cause of concern.

Yes, today it's a clueless mallu fishing boat

tomorrow it could be a USV suicide-boat

 

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View: https://x.com/neeraj_rajput/status/1860009216619983044

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Good sub didn't sustain damage to cause costly and time consuming repairs

Photo from Shiv Aroor twitter

 

[VictorDelta4]

Photo from Shiv Aroor twitter

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AI generated image mate.

 

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I feel like with the advent of AI and increasing Automation and drone usage in wars. The advantages of having a large human army is going to become less and less.

So, maybe now is perhaps the last prime time to invade and get some more territory. Otherwise the advantages that India has won't remain for long.

Your Thoughts.

 

[Ayan Barat]

Time enough for that

And just see what happened

Skunk Works® Demonstrates Airborne Battle Management of AI-Controlled Aircraft

Lockheed Martin Skunk Works® (NYSE: LMT), in partnership with Lockheed Martin's Demonstrations and Prototypes organization and the University of Iowa's Operator Performance Laboratory (OPL),...

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"In a series of flight tests, the Skunk Works and OPL teams simulated an offensive counter air mission where an airborne, human "battle manager" aboard an L-39 Albatros assigned targets to two AI-controlled L-29 Delfin jets, which then worked together to defeat two mock enemy jets using simulated mission systems and weapons."

So give it a bit time and trust me, it'll definitely happen. The next "batch" of loyal wingman would be CAP

Give this tech some time to mature!!

You too were right in your assessment my Khooni friend. Enjoy

 

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One Q i have, sure this has been asked before, why are our destroyers under-armed in terms of missiles and VLS compared to something like Arleigh Burke which has 96 cells total

Next Project 18 destroyers have equal-equal amount of missiles to international ships however, but it als is supposed to have 10k tons displacement

Between the 96 cells Arleigh Burke and the 32 cells FREMM frigates, there is a clever middle.
48 to 64 seems good.

 

[BON PLAN]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/comments/1guzl59/turkish_bayraktar_tb3_take_off_from_tcg_anadolu/


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarplanePorn/comments/1guzhuo/bayraktar_tb3_has_successfully_landed_on_tcg/

Toorki drone takes off and lands on their LHD

In an actual amphibious invasion scenario what is the use of such a type of drone( wide straight wings, air to surface weapons )?

OTOH they have one more that is like a stealth fighter jet, if such a drone is launched, can it do CAP vs enemy fighters?

A nice try.
But in perfect weather, without load, without any other UCAV on the deck.
Far from beeing a real and usable weapon.

 

[Nutcracker]

A nice try.
But in perfect weather, without load, without any other UCAV on the deck.
Far from beeing a real and usable weapon.

Also with unknown amount of internal fuel. Although a speeding LHD can surely help with the take off.