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Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.

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- there is a smaller version of MF-STAR designed for smaller vessels like corvettes and frigate; like the Sa'ar 6 pictured. First time seeing on a non-Israeli design
- given how lightly armed it is, just 16x Barak-8 in bow...it definitely has the feel of an Indian vessel.
 
IAI must be paying A LOT AND A LOT of bribes to keep securing orders for MFSTAR and delaying India's own AESA progress.
 
About the crew vs automation debate.

Read about them, had some thoughts I would like to place here.

The Japs, the Europeans and the SoKos are reducing crew not for maximising weapon fitment or to increase survivability or any other reason - they are reducing them because they find it increasingly impossible to man the ships they are building.

Heck the RN cant even man existing ships, and several of the Type 23s (excellent fucking ships - last of the once great British design and build yards) are laid up for lack of crew. Same is the fate with their nuke sub fleet.

so, lets get that out of the way - they are reducing crew strength out of sheer desperation.

Why do we have highish crew numbers - because WE CAN. It is always helpful to have extra hands on paper, if not in reality. Nearly every ship sails with 90 - 95 % of on paper strength, thanks to leaves, sickness, TDs, etc etc.

And in actual operations, every crew position should ideally have 3 men/women. To operate in shifts and maintain peak performance. IN can still a 6 shift watch cycle thanks to this crew numbers (the offrs get fucked - ask me how i know and there's a story of a grumpy XO doing goddamn fire drills during Dog Watch)
 
Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.

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@Adm_Kenobi @Binayak95

From here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Isq-SWbGeQ


Good catch, seems to be using the MF-STAR variant that the Jooz use on their Saar 6 corvettes or INS Lahav, pic related

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Size of MF-STAR used by P-15A/B and P-17A with BEL workers for comparison

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Size of MF-STAR smaller size on Saar 6 with Yahoodi workers for comparison

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IAI must be paying A LOT AND A LOT of bribes to keep securing orders for MFSTAR and delaying India's own AESA progress.
BEL seems to be running the gravy train, but DRDO could have easily tied up with companies like Astra Microwave or Data Patterns. Instead, we have this PSU dog-and-pony show.


Production DPSUs should never have been given independent status instead of being directly under DRDO. That was a mistake. Now, foreign products keep making their way into this corrupt system.


I know exactly how it works—by the time the babus figure it out, foreign vendors come in with their upgraded versions, launching gravy train 2.0. How exactly does BEL plan to build its capability? It's been 10 years, and we're still importing these things.
 

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