Next Generation Corvettes

[Bleh]

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[SKC]

OP: @haldilal

 

[SKC]

@haldilal reports:

The CFD models ready in hand for the NGCs and the overall profile looks quite divergent from Kamortas

And With the an L/B ratio of 7.12 and beam of 16.9m, it should give a length of 120m most tops as dictated by the RFI cap. And will displace anywhere between 3,000 to 4,000 tons. And the hull is totally new different from the Kamorta Class.

 

[SKC]

@Fatalis reports:

Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) accorded AoN for procurement of Next Generation Corvettes (NGC) at an estimated cost of approx. 36,000cr in June 2022. GRSE’s in its Q4FY23 investor call mentioned that the shipyard expects RFP to be released in second half of calendar year 2024, MDL in its Q1FY24 call has stated that the RFP is expected around the end of this year, it isn’t clear if it is the end of calendar year or the fiscal year. The project is expected to be divided between two shipyards with L1 getting 5 and L2 receiving 3 hulls.​

 

[Bleh]

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OP: @haldilal

Fanaet & not 4k tons... Barely larger than Kamorta.

 

[Gslv Mk3]

Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.





@Adm_Kenobi @Binayak95

From here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Isq-SWbGeQ

 

[Ayan Barat]

Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.

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- there is a smaller version of MF-STAR designed for smaller vessels like corvettes and frigate; like the Sa'ar 6 pictured. First time seeing on a non-Israeli design
- given how lightly armed it is, just 16x Barak-8 in bow...it definitely has the feel of an Indian vessel.

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

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- there is a smaller version of MF-STAR designed for smaller vessels like corvettes and frigate; like the Sa'ar 6 pictured. First time seeing on a non-Israeli design
- given how lightly armed it is, just 16x Barak-8 in bow...it definitely has the feel of an Indian vessel.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1878474458270155023

 

[shade2]

Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.

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@Adm_Kenobi @Binayak95

From here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Isq-SWbGeQ

Good catch, seems to be using the MF-STAR variant that the [MOD WARNING: Enough of the slurs] Israelis use on their Saar 6 corvettes or INS Lahav, pic related




Size of MF-STAR used by P-15A/B and P-17A with BEL workers for comparison





Size of MF-STAR smaller size on Saar 6 with [MOD WARNING: enough of the slurs] workers for comparison

 

[vampyrbladez]

Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.

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@Adm_Kenobi @Binayak95

From here:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Isq-SWbGeQ%5B

Looks to be a very capable ship. Very likely to be the reason why NGMV are so gimped in their firepower by comparison.

NGC (Next Generation Corvette)

Next Generation Corvette (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x EL/M-2258 MF-STAR S-Band AESA radar	200–400 km	Primary radar, smaller version of EL/M-2248 MF-STAR
1 x HUMSA-NG (MK 2)	40 km	Primary sonar for ASW
1 x ACTAS	60 km	Towed array sonar for ASW
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely to be STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
8 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 Barak 8 (MRSAM)	90-100 km	Primary SAM for anti ship missile and area defense
2 x tripe 324mm Varunastra torpedo	50 km	Primary ASW weapon
1 x HAL Dhruv (or) Sea King Mk. 42B		Single helicopter for ASW role
Comments :
8 vessels to be built. Frigate sized (~3500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Brahmaputra Class frigates and Kora Class corvettes.

NGMV (Next Generation Missile Vessel)

Next Generation Missile Vessel (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x MFR X-Band AESA radar	200–300 km (?)	Navalized version of X-BMFR
1 x Lynx-U2 fire control radar	(?)	Targeting for SRGM and CIWS
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely passed-on from P 15A/B ships with STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
4 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 x VL-SRSAM	80 km	Fitted for but not with, anti ship missile and area defense
1 x quad SA-N-5 Grail launcher	4.2 km	Manually aimed MANPADS
Comments :
6 vessels to be built. Corvette sized (~1500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Veer Class corvettes.

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Looks to be a very capable ship. Very likely to be the reason why NGMV are so gimped in their firepower by comparison.

NGC (Next Generation Corvette)

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Next Generation Corvette (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x EL/M-2258 MF-STAR S-Band AESA radar	200–400 km	Primary radar, smaller version of EL/M-2248 MF-STAR
1 x HUMSA-NG (MK 2)	40 km	Primary sonar for ASW
1 x ACTAS	60 km	Towed array sonar for ASW
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely to be STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
8 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 Barak 8 (MRSAM)	90-100 km	Primary SAM for anti ship missile and area defense
2 x tripe 324mm Varunastra torpedo	50 km	Primary ASW weapon
1 x HAL Dhruv (or) Sea King Mk. 42B		Single helicopter for ASW role
Comments :
8 vessels to be built. Frigate sized (~3500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Brahmaputra Class frigates and Kora Class corvettes.

NGMV (Next Generation Missile Vessel)

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Next Generation Missile Vessel (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x MFR X-Band AESA radar	200–300 km (?)	Navalized version of X-BMFR
1 x Lynx-U2 fire control radar	(?)	Targeting for SRGM and CIWS
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely passed-on from P 15A/B ships with STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
4 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 x VL-SRSAM	80 km	Fitted for but not with, anti ship missile and area defense
1 x quad SA-N-5 Grail launcher	4.2 km	Manually aimed MANPADS
Comments :
6 vessels to be built. Corvette sized (~1500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Veer Class corvettes.

Adjusted contrast and all a little bit

 

[DancingPeacock]

Looks to be a very capable ship. Very likely to be the reason why NGMV are so gimped in their firepower by comparison.

NGC (Next Generation Corvette)

View attachment 21646

Next Generation Corvette (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x EL/M-2258 MF-STAR S-Band AESA radar	200–400 km	Primary radar, smaller version of EL/M-2248 MF-STAR
1 x HUMSA-NG (MK 2)	40 km	Primary sonar for ASW
1 x ACTAS	60 km	Towed array sonar for ASW
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely to be STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
8 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 Barak 8 (MRSAM)	90-100 km	Primary SAM for anti ship missile and area defense
2 x tripe 324mm Varunastra torpedo	50 km	Primary ASW weapon
1 x HAL Dhruv (or) Sea King Mk. 42B		Single helicopter for ASW role
Comments :
8 vessels to be built. Frigate sized (~3500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Brahmaputra Class frigates and Kora Class corvettes.

NGMV (Next Generation Missile Vessel)

View attachment 21648

Next Generation Missile Vessel (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x MFR X-Band AESA radar	200–300 km (?)	Navalized version of X-BMFR
1 x Lynx-U2 fire control radar	(?)	Targeting for SRGM and CIWS
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely passed-on from P 15A/B ships with STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
4 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 x VL-SRSAM	80 km	Fitted for but not with, anti ship missile and area defense
1 x quad SA-N-5 Grail launcher	4.2 km	Manually aimed MANPADS
Comments :
6 vessels to be built. Corvette sized (~1500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Veer Class corvettes.

There seems to be 2x4=8 Per One side. I think you didn't count the other side which is hidden from this view. Those launchers seem to be too small for , maybe -NG? Or NASM-MR? ITCM?

 

[Bleh]

Is this the design for NGC? The superstructure & the MF-STAR Panel are visibly different from P-17A.

 

[abingdonboy]

Looks to be a very capable ship. Very likely to be the reason why NGMV are so gimped in their firepower by comparison.

NGC (Next Generation Corvette)

View attachment 21646

Next Generation Corvette (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x EL/M-2258 MF-STAR S-Band AESA radar	200–400 km	Primary radar, smaller version of EL/M-2248 MF-STAR
1 x HUMSA-NG (MK 2)	40 km	Primary sonar for ASW
1 x ACTAS	60 km	Towed array sonar for ASW
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely to be STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
8 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 Barak 8 (MRSAM)	90-100 km	Primary SAM for anti ship missile and area defense
2 x tripe 324mm Varunastra torpedo	50 km	Primary ASW weapon
1 x HAL Dhruv (or) Sea King Mk. 42B		Single helicopter for ASW role
Comments :
8 vessels to be built. Frigate sized (~3500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Brahmaputra Class frigates and Kora Class corvettes.

NGMV (Next Generation Missile Vessel)

View attachment 21648

Next Generation Missile Vessel (Possible Configuration)​
Sensor	Range	Comments
1 x MFR X-Band AESA radar	200–300 km (?)	Navalized version of X-BMFR
1 x Lynx-U2 fire control radar	(?)	Targeting for SRGM and CIWS
Weapon Suite	Range	Comments
1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount	16 km	Primary gun armament, likely passed-on from P 15A/B ships with STRALES 76 mm
2 x AK-630M CIWS	5 km	Close In Weapons System, Fire Control using MF-STAR and EO sensors.
2 x OFT 12.7 mm M2 SRGM	2 km	RCWS for ship defense, can be used manually
4 x BrahMos ER	450-900 km	Primary ASuW, can be used for surface to surface and anti ship roles
16 x VL-SRSAM	80 km	Fitted for but not with, anti ship missile and area defense
1 x quad SA-N-5 Grail launcher	4.2 km	Manually aimed MANPADS
Comments :
6 vessels to be built. Corvette sized (~1500 tons) vessel with 1 x LM2500 and 2 x Pielstick 12PA 6 STC6 Diesel engines for a range of 2800nm at 25 kn. Likely replacement for the Veer Class corvettes.

We don’t have the specs yet for NGF but NGC will be more capable than the Talwars (all of them), NGD will hopefully have a more focused AD role with BMD/~100 SAM so what will the NGF do to differentiate itself? NGC will have ASW capabilities going by the above, is it going to be more land attack focused? As it stands there’s not a huge difference in capabilities between 17A and 15B

 

[vampyrbladez]

We don’t have the specs yet for NGF but NGC will be more capable than the Talwars (all of them), NGD will hopefully have a more focused AD role with BMD/~100 SAM so what will the NGF do to differentiate itself? NGC will have ASW capabilities going by the above, is it going to be more land attack focused? As it stands there’s not a huge difference in capabilities between 17A and 15B

In terms of radar fitment, stealth design and armament (Barak 8 vs Shtil 1), the NGC beats out the Brahmaputra/Talwar Class.

The Shtil 1 arm launcher can launch 5-6 missiles in 1 min whereas the Barak 8 VLS can launch 20 missiles in 1 min. The MF-STAR (corvette) radar will be vastly better than the Fregat ME.

 

[Blood+]

In terms of radar fitment, stealth design and armament (Barak 8 vs Shtil 1), the NGC beats out the Brahmaputra/Talwar Class.

The Shtil 1 arm launcher can launch 5-6 missiles in 1 min whereas the Barak 8 VLS can launch 20 missiles in 1 min. The MF-STAR (corvette) radar will be vastly better than the Fregat ME.

That's not just it, Shtil-1 isn't even comparable to Barak-8s, the gap in the capability is laughingly wide.

 

[haldilal]

View: https://x.com/haldilal/status/1879823408411849101