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I tried to label all the ships in the CBG and it looks like an armada.

Note: I can be wrong about quite a few things due to the poor resolution.

Observations :
  • P 15 A/B Class DDGs are paired with a Talwar Class FFG
  • Kamorta Class DEG are performing the role of ASW
  • Kora Class DEG and Brahmaputra Class FFG are there to add to the BrahMos barrage using their 16 x KH 35 missiles (more complexity and higher probability of kill)
  • Deepak Class Tanker is at the rear of the formation
  • Vikrant Class A/C probably has ~12 Mig 29K (9 on deck) at the ready

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Not a bad deal for us....
This website is just like IDRW. Just non sense topics written there and providing credibility by mentioning some source says this. Try to ignore these kind of topics from this website.
 
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I tried to label all the ships in the CBG and it looks like an armada.

Note: I can be wrong about quite a few things due to the poor resolution.

Observations :
  • P 15 A/B Class DDGs are paired with a Talwar Class FFG
  • Kamorta Class DEG are performing the role of ASW
  • Kora Class DEG and Brahmaputra Class FFG are there to add to the BrahMos barrage using their 16 x KH 35 missiles (more complexity and higher probability of kill)
  • Deepak Class Tanker is at the rear of the formation
  • Vikrant Class A/C probably has ~12 Mig 29K (9 on deck) at the ready

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Observations by another user on Twitter on an upscaled image. Added in the missing bits.

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View: https://x.com/Mark99xm/status/1888116585988067418/photo/1
 
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I know its doesn't make any sense, but we kinda need it, navy doesn't have any options other than maybe mass importing naval rafale, given that we're procuring IAF rafales and production issues there too, its either gonna be quite late or expensive af. Naval LCA failed and naval AMCA isn't an option given that normal AMCA hasn't materialized yet. Naval airwing is fucked even more than Air force atm. tedbf, while its gonna be less technological advanced than AMCA, is needed as a stepping stone for for future 5th gen naval fighter.
 
And here's my opinion worth 2 cents...
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If we're planning to have a fleet of 4.5th gen fighters to complement Su-30MkIs and make up the bulk of our non-stealthy fleet; then it's much better to induct "Rafale from Meesho" in 2028 than a "Desi Gripen"
 
The effort spent on the TEDBF after 2030 would be better utilized in navalizing the AMCA and save dev cost. Considering it's timeline, hopefully Navy sees reason. There is little merit in spending this much funding and effort on an indigenous contemporary of the Rafale after 2035. Just buy more Rafales since 3 carrier plans are slashed and IAC 2 will enter service near Viky's reassignment as a training carrier.
And here's my opinion worth 2 cents...
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If we're planning to have a fleet of 4.5th gen fighters to complement Su-30MkIs and make up the bulk of our non-stealthy fleet; then it's much better to induct "Rafale from Meesho" in 2028 than a "Desi Gripen"
Problem here is, TEDBF is not even in development where the LCA Mk2 is probably ready for flight testing in 2 years. Otherwise this makes sense and eradicates concerns for replacing the Su-30s with a newer homegrown platform. But what may end up happening is us once again going to the Russians and asking for the Su-57 as a Su-30 replacement down the line.
 
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I know its doesn't make any sense, but we kinda need it, navy doesn't have any options other than maybe mass importing naval rafale, given that we're procuring IAF rafales and production issues there too, its either gonna be quite late or expensive af. Naval LCA failed and naval AMCA isn't an option given that normal AMCA hasn't materialized yet. Naval airwing is fucked even more than Air force atm. tedbf, while its gonna be less technological advanced than AMCA, is needed as a stepping stone for for future 5th gen naval fighter.
we have no other choice but to import or manufacture more rafale / f35(?) /su57 here .....IN should induct a dozen mk1 naval then go for NAMCA or something better
TEDBF is aproject destined to fail
 
And here's my opinion worth 2 cents...
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If we're planning to have a fleet of 4.5th gen fighters to complement Su-30MkIs and make up the bulk of our non-stealthy fleet; then it's much better to induct "Rafale from Meesho" in 2028 than a "Desi Gripen"
my brother if we could build, fly and induct tedbf by 2028 then we wouldve .. i doubt we will induct tejas mk2 by 28 and atleast that thing is under construction .... tedbf is still on paper
 
Problem here is, TEDBF is not even in development where the LCA Mk2 is probably ready for flight testing in 2 years.
my brother if we could build, fly and induct tedbf by 2028 then we wouldve ..
A team of 50 people, with a budget of $200 million built this clean sheet, radical design in 3 years despite pandemic...
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...so it's just baffling how a country with tens of billions in defence budget, multiple government owned establishment and a workforce of tens of thousands can't prioritize a project of such national importance
 

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