Indian Politics and Democracy

[Azaad]

I have not followed this election. Correct me if I am wrong. In Haryana I did not see much of Modi or Shah campaigning. In a way I am glad, Modi is not at the forefront of every state election especially now with him at the helm for the 3rd term. He is a captain of the ship and only should make sure the ship is sailing in the right direction. He personally should be not holding the wheel and guiding it. I hope more state leaders are given opportunity and only guidance from BJP's top team. The heavy handed approach of Shah in UP is what cost BJP the majority in 2024. I don't know whether Shah has learnt a lesson or this is pure fluke. Because I am still yet to see any decision being made on who will be BJP President.

There are rumors that It's more decentralized approach this time and RSS was also involved.

But that's something we are saying because BJP won, maybe if they had lost we would have other explanations.
It's always murky guessing the reason why a particular election is lost.

I guess if our hypothesis is correct and the factors above are at play than proper decentralization and RSS could have easily gained 20 to 30 more seats for BJP in LS. Of course there was a scare of reservation strike down which affected the votes and congress did better propaganda and projection in general.

From what I understand , Modi was requested to keep a low profile in the Haryana elections by Bhagwat himself.

The RSS is keen on a few things going forward -

* Have an independent party president as opposed to somebody like Nadda or a Modi Shah proxy preferably a veteran politician who commands respect across factions. Chatter is decision will be taken by end of this year.

* Have Modi prepare a succession plan & gradually take a back seat in the rest of this term

* Finally Modi still has the last word on everything till date meaning he has the veto. If you see the Kanwal Sardesai jugalbandi on TV it's the old good cop bad cop routine. Same holds true for Modi & Shah.

* UP was essentially a clash of egos between AS & YA or so my information goes.This is addressing the points you've raised @concard

 

[Prasad]

View: https://x.com/Indian_Analyzer/status/1843518882478493997

 

[SKC]

There are rumors that It's more decentralized approach this time and RSS was also involved.

But that's something we are saying because BJP won, maybe if they had lost we would have other explanations.
It's always murky guessing the reason why a particular election is lost.

I guess if our hypothesis is correct and the factors above are at play than proper decentralization and RSS could have easily gained 20 to 30 more seats for BJP in LS. Of course there was a scare of reservation strike down which affected the votes and congress did better propaganda and projection in general.

BJP won because the election was more decentralised than before. They learnt from mistakes of General Elections in North India.
Wherever RSS was more in power in General Elections, BJP did outperform. Odissa was total decentralized fight.
Hearing the same is happening now in Jharkhand but some more work is required in the MaHa.​

 

[SKC]

From what I understand , Modi was requested to keep a low profile in the Haryana elections by Bhagwat himself.

The RSS is keen on a few things going forward -

* Have an independent party president as opposed to somebody like Nadda or a Modi Shah proxy preferably a veteran politician who commands respect across factions. Chatter is decision will be taken by end of this year.

* Have Modi prepare a succession plan & gradually take a back seat in the rest of this term

* Finally Modi still has the last word on everything till date meaning he has the veto. If you see the Kanwal Sardesai jugalbandi on TV it's the old good cop bad cop routine. Same holds true for Modi & Shah.

* UP was essentially a clash of egos between AS & YA or so my information goes.This is addressing the points you've raised @concard

Modi did only 4 rallies in Haryana.
Center appointed a team lead by Mota bhai himself to moniter the state. However, they told state units to take lead and hold meetings locally in towns and districts.
Center ensured all possible resources to be provided to the local ground workers.

There was a complaint that BJP is not funding their local worker well compared to Congress. This time BJP spent a good amount on their party workers.​

 

[Suryavanshi]

@Azaad any rundown on this guy?

 

[shade2]

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Who is this guy, wanted to use this gif but didn't know his name

 

[Azaad]

Modi did only 4 rallies in Haryana.
Center appointed a team lead by Mota bhai himself to moniter the state. However, they told state units to take lead and hold meetings locally in towns and districts.
Center ensured all possible resources to be provided to the local ground workers.

There was a complaint that BJP is not funding their local worker well compared to Congress. This time BJP spent a good amount on their party workers.​

The difference between the Congress & the BJP is a kick up their backsides get's the BJP going. As far as the Congress goes their brains are in the backside. No amount of kicking helps. If not for the local leadership the Congress wouldn't be an united entity today. Remains to be seen how long will this continue.

 

[Prasad]

Who is this guy, wanted to use this gif but didn't know his name

Damn, how do you not know Ashutosh?

 

[shade2]

@Azaad any rundown on this guy?

Power saheb's puppet to bamboozle the Maratha voter.

He is the Power equivalent of the Hardik Patel, Kanhaiya Kumar, Umar Khalid, Tikait and other such celebrity protestors who nobody knows or cares about today.

 

[Azaad]

@Azaad any rundown on this guy?

Jarange Patil , Baramati che kaka's proxy. Leader of the Maratha reservation camp. My neighbour & fellow ghati

 

[Suryavanshi]

Power saheb's puppet to bamboozle the Maratha voter.

He is the Power equivalent of the Hardik Patel, Kanhaiya Kumar, Umar Khalid, Tikait and other such celebrity protestors who nobody knows or cares about today.

Jarange Patil , Baramati che kaka's proxy. Leader of the Maratha reservation camp. My neighbour & fellow ghati

He seems to be pulling crowd tho from the videos I have seen. The Media was kind to him as well.
Is there a chance this guy will raise the stink of Maratha reservation again? Or is he limited to a particular region of Maharashtra?

I have a belief that peope will eventually cribble less for reservation once private sector gives better opportunity and most gorimt sector are privatized. But for that to happen it must be made sure that no new castes are added to reservation list.

 

[Anants]

won by 32 votes

Chautala ate 7000 votes

 

[why so serious?]

MH is going to be a exciting contest. No one can predict which way the results will go.

One thing i can definitely say sitting in Mumbai is the odds have definitely changed for Mahayuti.

In June after the general elections they were looking down and out , but in October after some positive work, some freebies and completion of some of the most anticipating infrastructure projects , infighting in MVA on seat sharing and Jarange patils Reservation protest some what fizzled , things are looking up again.

Hope central command gives a freehand to local leadership and RSS continues with the ground work.

 

[why so serious?]

He seems to be pulling crowd tho from the videos I have seen. The Media was kind to him as well.
Is there a chance this guy will raise the stink of Maratha reservation again? Or is he limited to a particular region of Maharashtra?

I have a belief that peope will eventually cribble less for reservation once private sector gives better opportunity and most gorimt sector are privatized. But for that to happen it must be made sure that no new castes are added to reservation list.

Whatever stink kaka tried to raise through him was raised in the General elections.

Majority of Marathas have come to the realization that all this was kakas doing and getting Reservation which would be passed by the courts is not possible.

JPatil is a spent force might impact a few seats but will not impact the whole state.

 

[Yuyutsu]

View: https://x.com/iAnkurSingh/status/1843599609718796619

both are cousins. i mean the leading and the trailing candidates.

after this win BJP should not take hindus for granted , they should do more work for hindus and keep on winning till even the second place party would have same mindset for hindus and country. khangress should be finished to atomic level.

 

[Hari Sud]

Jalebi Rahul Gandhi has lost again Haryana elections. His mother Sonia Gandhi who pays for all Congress Party elections including the media must be crying at the results. Their pollsters were badly posing election questions, hence got wrong answers.

The future of Jalebi Rahul Gandhi and his family is at stake with successive losses. That loud mouth Congress Party President should retire. How many losses can you stand when you are above eighty years old. These losses are bad for his well being.

The J& K results were pretty well known as people vote for Islam in preference to the nation. Still BJP has done very well; more than what they expected. With large BJP in opposition it is difficult for Abdullahas to ask for restoration of article 370. They don’t have 2/3 majority.

One thing which cannot be forgotten is that Pakistan played a silent role over the media waves and religious sermons in the mosques for the elections. They wished restoration of Article 370 but the Abdullah’s did not win big. Just ignore the Congress Party as they and Abdullah’s are same.

Results in Haryana and J&K are reassuring that development work will continue unabated.

 

[Anants]

https://swarajyamag.com/bihar/bihar-police-arrest-journalist-days-after-he-exposed-evangelical-attempts-to-convert-entire-village

 

[Miss Firing]

View: https://x.com/MrSinha_/status/1843565483397919157

Jana Nayak, Jana Neta, Janadhipatya Yodha, Jana Premi, Jana Sewak, Jana Mangalakari ....



Has 0 base..thinks he is some Mandela, creeps his way into some protests, pastes himself there & creates an artificial "aura"

 

[Tsunami]

View: https://x.com/ItsAshishRK/status/1843583826603454652?t=nwIapZTQlQFR8PsX7bukKQ&s=19

 

[Azaad]

View: https://youtu.be/3C8ZOBWaeDM?si=x1RKFSPLqTYuxBm4 .
Right time to link Taklu's anal ysis of Haryana's polls from Sunday & severely constipated story telling skills seeking to draw parallels to historical personages.

He's mentioned with thinly disguised glee how Modi's presence image rallies etc have been severely downplayed REPEATEDLY that it should be real fun seeing how's he going to spin the results tonight.

Makes one sincerely wonder if the tribe of psephologists are a much abused species for getting their assignment wrong in spite of the fact that they aren't full time involved in covering the political beat how much should political pimps like Clutterji whose livelihood stems from covering politics day & night be subject to ?

Enjoy !