Indian Politics and Democracy

[arjuntank]

I think J and K is still union territory. Central govt is still super govt there.

 

[SlayingHell]

Basing on Haryana situation, it looks like why BJP fell in Previous National Polls is because people didn't come out and vote.

 

[SKC]

Good to see you Shade.

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Congress-I vote share has increased significantly. 5% of Muslim votes have added to their kitty. They got 3 Lakh Muslim votes from 4 constituencies. Almost 80% voted for INC.

But this is going to create a problem for INC. Already many people are talking about this - INC becoming a party for Mullas.
It is not going to be good for them in long run!

 

[Illusive]

View: https://x.com/ThePollLady/status/1843566725700431957

This is what is needed. Fear the congress will come. Assembly election was always like by how many seats BJP would win. The fear is needed.

 

[DingDong]

Basing on Haryana situation, it looks like why BJP fell in Previous National Polls is because people didn't come out and vote.

RSS is the main architect behind BJP's return in Haryana. RSS organized around 16000 local sabhas to soften the "anti-incumbency" and to set the agenda.

Let us not underestimate the outcome. This was a make or break election for India.

Had Congress won, it would have guaranteed all the anarchists from Punjab a free and safe passage to Delhi and they would have taken whole Delhi hostage in no time. May be they were already planning a seige of the Parliament and PM's house, who knows?

Haryana's voters saved India.

 

[shade2]

But this is going to create a problem for INC. Already many people are talking about this - INC becoming a party for Mullas.
It is not going to be good for them in long run!

It is a pan-India green party + whatever local caste/neta mix at the state level.
This is nothing new.

It being good or not for them is totally in the hands of the voting class's priorities viz greens vs everything else.

 

[shade2]

It does not matter, whether it is Pakistan, Sweden, US or Hindu heartland of UP, they gather, in this case demanding STSJ of the 14 year old boy.

I do not know what the solution is.

Street power problems require street power solutions.

Bhajipao is reluctant to build and maintain streetpower because issues of Opteeks, what will gora saheb say etc and fear of the muscular street power group being more popular than Bhajipao itself and being able to dictate terms.

If there is an organic development of even self-defense street power, Bhajipao will themselves crush it in the aftermath of a riot and then boast about equal-equal arrests of people from both-sides.

One user here was saying "muh tough blasphemy laws" or in general people clap when bulldozer action happens but meelaards put a stop to that too, but then such Govt based solutions aren't effective.

In practice this means you have to take the L and hear blasphemy about your gods, because you cannot give muh tod jawab, otherwise greenies will free your body from your head.

 

[Azaad]

But this is going to create a problem for INC. Already many people are talking about this - INC becoming a party for Mullas.
It is not going to be good for them in long run!

I'd say it's a good development. In the long run when civilizational issues are to be settled later this century , we need one strong party which champions our cause & helps us navigate this getting us safely to the other side.

For that we need the Congress to split into various regional parties . In any case that's how it has always been in Indian politics .

One dominant party at the centre with no equal rival like how Congress dominated the scene the 1989. Which party was the equivalent of the Congress at the centre then ? The rise of the BJP coincided with the decline of the Congress.

 

[Cheepek]

View: https://x.com/amitsurg/status/1843529262831415626?t=z-tw7QHetGCI1jlg87Lpsw&s=19

 

[shade2]

I'd say it's a good development. In the long run when civilizational issues are to be settled later this century , we need one strong party which champions our cause & helps us navigate this getting us safely to the other side.

For that we need the Congress to split into various regional parties . In any case that's how it has always been in Indian politics .

One dominant party at the centre with no equal rival like how Congress dominated the scene the 1989. Which party was the equivalent of the Congress at the centre then ? The rise of the BJP coincided with the decline of the Congress.

Not happening with the Royal Family in charge.
Ejecting Royal Family from the nation will be the biggest loss for Bhajipao, because it will also result in the departure of the BJP star campaigner , since after hearing his utterances, even the most jaded BJP voters feels the need to go out and vote

 

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/amitsurg/status/1843529262831415626?t=z-tw7QHetGCI1jlg87Lpsw&s=19

If The Hindu reported the issue as it is , N Ram & the rest of the staff there would've suffered paroxysms of guilt till he / they kicked the bucket.

 

[shade2]

Great Leader gives a speech on Haryana win

'Haryana victory will echo across country': PM Modi's calls Congress 'parasite' after Haryana, J&K results | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Tuesday targeted Congress while hailing the historic mandate in Haryana and noting the increased vote share.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Talking about the clear mandate for the third consecutive term in Haryana, PM Modi said, "Congress wants to weaken the country by weakening the Indian society and spreading anarchy in India, that is why they are instigating different sections. They are constantly trying to ignite a fire. The country saw how attempts were made to instigate farmers, but the farmers of Haryana gave them a befitting reply that they are with the country, they are with the BJP. Many attempts were made to instigate Dalits and OBCs but this society also recognized this conspiracy and said that they are with the country, they are with the BJP."

PM Modi also accused the Congress of being a part of the group that "hatches plan against India".
"For some time now, many conspiracies have been hatched against India to weaken India's democracy and social fabric. International conspiracies are being hatched. National parties like Congress and their allies are involved in this game," he claimed.
"Today Haryana has given a befitting reply to every such conspiracy. Every Indian will have to take a pledge that we will not let any such conspiracy succeed. India will not deviate from the path of development," PM Modi said.
Repeating his "parasite" analogy for Congress, PM Modi said, "In Lok Sabha elections, Congress won most of the seats because of their alliance partners. However, their alliance partners had to suffer because of the trust they showed in Congress. Congress is a party that swallows its alliance partners. It wants to make a country where people hate their own culture," he said.

Good atleast he's drip feeding people on the dangers of the sekoolar party rather than the usual development vikaas chooran

 

[Azaad]

Not happening with the Royal Family in charge.
Ejecting Royal Family from the nation will be the biggest loss for Bhajipao, because it will also result in the departure of the BJP star campaigner , since after hearing his utterances, even the most jaded BJP voters feels the need to go out and vote

Nothing lasts forever . If Modi won't what makes you think Pappu will or his equally good for nothing sister will too if she doesn't deliver ? Things will take a very interesting turn the day the old hag kicks the bucket.

 

[shuturmurg]

Very sadge :



View: https://x.com/YearOfTheKraken/status/1843570924299436295

 

[iNorthernerOn9]

Nothing lasts forever . If Modi won't what makes you think Pappu will or his equally good for nothing sister will too if she doesn't deliver ? Things will take a very interesting turn the day the old hag kicks the bucket.

In the last month she will turn 78 & by the 2029 election she would be 82...

The "after her" scenario is coming up in very near future... but I think it has never been discussed on this forum or the previous one.

 

[concard]

I hope this victory does not go into their heads. This is 3rd term of BJP. Lesser the pomp the better. Let their work speak for themselves. Appear weak and just do your work in the background without giving a hint to the opposition who are just banking on Anti-incumbency to get back to power. Maharashtra will be difficult. I hope there is no confusion with alliance. This confusion of alliance is what led to reduced seats for BJP in 2024. Stop allying with haramis like Ajit Pawar. Winning the coming state elections is crucial for stability of economic reforms and increasing the strength in Rajya Sabha.

Allow Pappu to scream and shout. Decimate his message to grassroots and undermine his message. Their governments in HP and Karnataka are already unpopular. In Karnataka, Sidda is already under scanner for MUDA scam. They have destroyed HP's economy and finances. Let these things hit the grassroots in every state.

 

[SlayingHell]

Lets not forget the rumored 2027 Cheen-Taiwan war where these cheens may attempt something at border. It would effect far worse than the Russo-Ukraine war whose aftereffects are largely shielded from common populace.

 

[Screambowl]

Hanji Sanatanio... all paces where Yogi campaigned BJP did well. They weren't bringing him earlier, Nadda thought his business lobby will make them win, only when they realized that dhoti is going to open they brought in Yogi and then RSS campaigned to make BJP realize who is the baap, after Ayodhya debacle.

People have already identified who will speak for Hindus without fear.

 

[altruistRor]

Very sadge :



View: https://x.com/YearOfTheKraken/status/1843570924299436295

He's been humbled. And certainly can not comprehend what went wrong and how.

We saw similar sight in June.

Nevertheless, Hooda was the last standing leader for Congress who had the capability to win an election on his own without any alliance partner.

Those 37 seats are earned by him and not by any Pappu netritva or neeti. By the next election, he'll be 82, means Congress will not have any major leader for the next election.

So, expect Congress to be gone from Haryana for at least a decade. This election definitely needs a case study.

 

[Suryavanshi]

old hag kicks the bucket.

She is 77 years old already survived cervical cancer. How much of the party does she still control and how? It always baffled me how the Indian politico bent their knees to a foren women that couldn't even speak hindi.
Is it our inherent subservience to white skin ?