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Haryana election results have shocked Congress. This was a state they were to sure to win by a large margin. They got blindsided by BJP + RSS and have lost more than just the state of Haryana.

Let's be clear, 2024 has been extremely bad for Congress.
The perception that LS 2024 were good for Cong hides the fact that their alliance partners were responsible for a large number of it;s seats and the seats they got are nothing to show off. Their combined alliance got less seats than just BJP.
Even LS 2024 results were a minus for BJP but never a plus for Cong.
Let's not forget the 5 state elections before that. Except TG, where a local satrap won the election rather than Cong winning, everywhere else they got shocker.

Jharkhand will not be pretty for Cong as well. BJP should do what they are doing there and win the state.

Now Maharashtra. Winning MH is second only to winning LS elections. That's how important this state is.
After Haryana results, Congress will have a tough time managing wily Pawar and high on ego & drugs Thackreys. These 2 will really squeeze the no of seats Cong will fight there.
BJP has got it's work cut out in MH. It should contest in as many as possible. the Shinde Sena and the other Pawar don't have as much clout they think they have.
It's basically BJP vs Cong + Pawar + Thackreys.
the MVA alliance starts off with a huge plus of having muzzie votes already in their pocket.
 
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HR will turn tide for BJP in UP and other upcoming states too because the Netas of INDI alliance are out of their minds and people fear their return to power here:​


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Modi’s Retirement: Who’s Next?

(I mourn Ratan Tata's demise; but I am worried about Narendra Modi's replacement soon)

As Prime Minister Narendra Modi passes 75 years of age, a potential retirement looms, aligning with his belief that leaders should step down by that age. This raises the critical question of succession in the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) ahead of the 2029 general elections. The RSS, a powerful influence in BJP affairs, is expected to play a significant role in determining future leadership. In contrast, the opposition’s INDI Alliance, a coalition of regional parties united by a desire to defeat the BJP, lacks ideological coherence. While they came close to a breakthrough in the 2024 elections, their long-term success remains uncertain.

In the 2024 elections, the Congress Party secured 99 seats, the Samajwadi Party 37, and the Trinamool Congress 29, while the BJP was reduced to a minority with 240 seats. This outcome has prompted speculation about the future of BJP leadership and whether the party can maintain its dominance beyond Modi’s tenure. The expectation is that Modi will hand over leadership by 2029, and several potential successors are already being considered.

Key figures within the BJP who could replace Modi include Yogi Adityanath, the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh; Himanta Biswa Sarma, the chief minister of Assam; and Shivraj Singh Chouhan, the former chief minister of Madhya Pradesh. Additionally, federal ministers Amit Shah and Nitin Gadkari are seen as strong contenders. All these individuals have strong leadership credentials, having held significant administrative roles, and are closely aligned with the Modi-style governance model. Chandrababu Naidu, while a part of the National Democratic Alliance (NDA), may also be considered, though his lack of RSS backing could be a disadvantage.

On the other side, the INDI Alliance’s leadership faces its own challenges. Rahul Gandhi remains a central figure in the Congress Party but lacks substantial administrative experience, which has led to repeated political setbacks. Other experienced politicians in the alliance, such as P. Chidambaram, Shashi Tharoor, and Jairam Ramesh, may provide stability, but the party’s reliance on Gandhi continues to be a point of concern. Additionally, leaders like M.K. Stalin of Tamil Nadu and Mamata Banerjee of West Bengal are potential candidates for national leadership roles, though Banerjee’s numerous political obstacles may hinder her chances.

The Congress Party, out of power for over 15 years, faces the challenge of adapting to governance if they return to power. Rahul Gandhi’s leadership, largely inherited and shaped without extensive practical experience, has contributed to the party’s struggles. In contrast, the BJP appears more prepared for a leadership transition, with several seasoned leaders ready to step up. While the INDI Alliance has successfully challenged the BJP’s dominance, their internal coherence and leadership remain in question. Both parties have time to refine their strategies for the next electoral contest, but for now, BJP’s succession plans seem more robust than the Congress Party’s reliance on Rahul Gandhi.
 
Hari Sud said:
Modi’s Retirement: Who’s Next?

(I mourn Ratan Tata's demise; but I am worried about Narendra Modi's replacement soon)

As Prime Minister Narendra Modi passes 75 years of age, a potential retirement looms, aligning with his belief that leaders should step down by that age. This raises the critical question of succession in the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) ahead of the 2029 general elections. The RSS, a powerful influence in BJP affairs, is expected to play a significant role in determining future leadership. In contrast, the opposition’s INDI Alliance, a coalition of regional parties united by a desire to defeat the BJP, lacks ideological coherence. While they came close to a breakthrough in the 2024 elections, their long-term success remains uncertain.

In the 2024 elections, the Congress Party secured 99 seats, the Samajwadi Party 37, and the Trinamool Congress 29, while the BJP was reduced to a minority with 240 seats. This outcome has prompted speculation about the future of BJP leadership and whether the party can maintain its dominance beyond Modi’s tenure. The expectation is that Modi will hand over leadership by 2029, and several potential successors are already being considered.

Key figures within the BJP who could replace Modi include Yogi Adityanath, the chief minister of Uttar Pradesh; Himanta Biswa Sarma, the chief minister of Assam; and Shivraj Singh Chouhan, the former chief minister of Madhya Pradesh. Additionally, federal ministers Amit Shah and Nitin Gadkari are seen as strong contenders. All these individuals have strong leadership credentials, having held significant administrative roles, and are closely aligned with the Modi-style governance model. Chandrababu Naidu, while a part of the National Democratic Alliance (NDA), may also be considered, though his lack of RSS backing could be a disadvantage.

On the other side, the INDI Alliance’s leadership faces its own challenges. Rahul Gandhi remains a central figure in the Congress Party but lacks substantial administrative experience, which has led to repeated political setbacks. Other experienced politicians in the alliance, such as P. Chidambaram, Shashi Tharoor, and Jairam Ramesh, may provide stability, but the party’s reliance on Gandhi continues to be a point of concern. Additionally, leaders like M.K. Stalin of Tamil Nadu and Mamata Banerjee of West Bengal are potential candidates for national leadership roles, though Banerjee’s numerous political obstacles may hinder her chances.

The Congress Party, out of power for over 15 years, faces the challenge of adapting to governance if they return to power. Rahul Gandhi’s leadership, largely inherited and shaped without extensive practical experience, has contributed to the party’s struggles. In contrast, the BJP appears more prepared for a leadership transition, with several seasoned leaders ready to step up. While the INDI Alliance has successfully challenged the BJP’s dominance, their internal coherence and leadership remain in question. Both parties have time to refine their strategies for the next electoral contest, but for now, BJP’s succession plans seem more robust than the Congress Party’s reliance on Rahul Gandhi.
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BJP will fight 2029 under Modi's leadership.
I suspect very soon after the elections, the transfer from Modi to someone else would happen.

Amit Shah and Yogi are clearly the front runners.
Modi will bat for Amit Shah, surely, and that will make a lot of difference.
Amit Shah does not have the charisma of Yogi but he has managed to deliver spectacular wins for BJP in and out of parliament and that probably will be the deciding criteria.

Key difference here is that in 2014, Modi was the face and BJP won on the back of Modi.
in 2029, if they win, the face would still be Modi.

That fact would be the major reason why the successor would be someone Modi prefers.

But by 2034, there would be few more candidates from BJP who would join the fray for top position but I suspect by then Yogi would have become similar to what Modi was in 2014.

Shivraj Singh would be a compromise candidate at best.
Others are not fray to be honest.
 
Prasad said:
Haryana election results have shocked Congress. This was a state they were to sure to win by a large margin. They got blindsided by BJP + RSS and have lost more than just the state of Haryana.

Let's be clear, 2024 has been extremely bad for Congress.
The perception that LS 2024 were good for Cong hides the fact that their alliance partners were responsible for a large number of it;s seats and the seats they got are nothing to show off. Their combined alliance got less seats than just BJP.
Even LS 2024 results were a minus for BJP but never a plus for Cong.
Let's not forget the 5 state elections before that. Except TG, where a local satrap won the election rather than Cong winning, everywhere else they got shocker.

Jharkhand will not be pretty for Cong as well. BJP should do what they are doing there and win the state.

Now Maharashtra. Winning MH is second only to winning LS elections. That's how important this state is.
After Haryana results, Congress will have a tough time managing wily Pawar and high on ego & drugs Thackreys. These 2 will really squeeze the no of seats Cong will fight there.
BJP has got it's work cut out in MH. It should contest in as many as possible. the Shinde Sena and the other Pawar don't have as much clout they think they have.
It's basically BJP vs Cong + Pawar + Thackreys.
the MVA alliance starts off with a huge plus of having muzzie votes already in their pocket.
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It has been going good for Bhajipao since 2023 in terms of state elections as compared to 2018-2019 where they were losing most states.
btw Congress only wins because of Satrap efforts, the number of voters who vote cong for Raul are in decimal percentages.

MH will be really interesting if Uddhav gets the best seats in seat sharing, wins a chunk of those, and ends up doing Ghar Wapsi to NDA in an act of epic trolling of Power and Cong :cmegusta:
 
shade2 said:
It has been going good for Bhajipao since 2023 in terms of state elections as compared to 2018-2019 where they were losing most states.
btw Congress only wins because of Satrap efforts, the number of voters who vote cong for Raul are in decimal percentages.

MH will be really interesting if Uddhav gets the best seats in seat sharing, wins a chunk of those, and ends up doing Ghar Wapsi to NDA in an act of epic trolling of Power and Cong :cmegusta:
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Udhav and his Penguin beta are going to do nanga naach on pappu's bum.
SS has MH congress by their balls right now.

SS will get maximum seats and CM chair.
 
Prasad said:
Udhav and his Penguin beta are going to do nanga naach on pappu's bum.
SS has MH congress by their balls right now.

SS will get maximum seats and CM chair.
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That is their expectation and that's assuming Jalebi Bhai tells his MH Cong underlings to surrender the good seats to Udhav Sena.

Just like Jalebi Bhai ordered Haryana Cong to become Hooda Jatt Congress, thereby burning Selja and Surjewala badly, and you saw the results.

In a similar way the more popular MH Cong leaders and loyalists can refuse to campaign and tell their loyal voters to sit at home and not vote for Uddhav Sena candidate.

This is MH election, lots of heartburn will take place over seat distribution and tickets.

Bhajipao organization is strong while cong is weak and depends a lot on external allies, this is their weakspot and Bhajipaos, now energized by victory will take full advantage.
 
shade2 said:
It has been going good for Bhajipao since 2023 in terms of state elections as compared to 2018-2019 where they were losing most states.
btw Congress only wins because of Satrap efforts, the number of voters who vote cong for Raul are in decimal percentages.

MH will be really interesting if Uddhav gets the best seats in seat sharing, wins a chunk of those, and ends up doing Ghar Wapsi to NDA in an act of epic trolling of Power and Cong :cmegusta:
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Frankly there's a good chance of a hung assembly in MH. If not that , then the second scenario is the MVA triumphing . I don't see the MahaYuthi winning this one.

Contrary to what people here declare there was little to distinguish the 2 SS factions in terms of the results in the just concluded general elections.

The biggest disappointments were the BJP & AP factions of the NCP contrary to expectations whereas the biggest surprise was the Congress which before the election was seen as an organisation teetering on the brink & at its weakest it's ever been in MH.

Granted state & central elections are not the same hence be prepared for the unexpected - pre & post polls . Nothing is as it seems here. The man single handedly responsible for all this anarchy is Chuddhav & the way things are unfolding he may yet have the last laugh.

The other variable is how long vakde tond / Baramati che kaka'd survive. He's already 84 if I'm not mistaken & has undergone at least a dozen operations for oral cancer.
 
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Prasad said:
BJP will fight 2029 under Modi's leadership.
I suspect very soon after the elections, the transfer from Modi to someone else would happen.

Amit Shah and Yogi are clearly the front runners.
Modi will bat for Amit Shah, surely, and that will make a lot of difference.
Amit Shah does not have the charisma of Yogi but he has managed to deliver spectacular wins for BJP in and out of parliament and that probably will be the deciding criteria.

Key difference here is that in 2014, Modi was the face and BJP won on the back of Modi.
in 2029, if they win, the face would still be Modi.

That fact would be the major reason why the successor would be someone Modi prefers.

But by 2034, there would be few more candidates from BJP who would join the fray for top position but I suspect by then Yogi would have become similar to what Modi was in 2014.

Shivraj Singh would be a compromise candidate at best.
Others are not fray to be honest.
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Disagree with you…. He has clearly stated that all leaders retire at age or around 75 years. He did not include himself as an exception.

Moreover, Modi, judging from his personality, he is no mood to lead a minority government for long. He will not dump allies but work to increase BJP tally from 240 to much higher. Read in between the lines Haryana election results and 29 seats in J&K. The latter has never happened before.

Haryana elections is a template for Maharashtra and Jharkhand. If BJP succeeds there then stage probably set for sooner elections. Modi wish to implement one election platform and that is possible with 2/3 majority because opposition parties will not agree for that.
 
Hari Sud said:
Disagree with you…. He has clearly stated that all leaders retire at age or around 75 years. He did not include himself as an exception.

Moreover, Modi, judging from his personality, he is no mood to lead a minority government for long. He will not dump allies but work to increase BJP tally from 240 to much higher. Read in between the lines Haryana election results and 29 seats in J&K. The latter has never happened before.

Haryana elections is a template for Maharashtra and Jharkhand. If BJP succeeds there then stage probably set for sooner elections. Modi wish to implement one election platform and that is possible with 2/3 majority because opposition parties will not agree for that.
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Let's hope he does not retire and holds the fort until 2029.
Also, exceptions to the 75 years age have already been made couple of time, so there is a precedence.
Adding to it that no one in BJP would really oppose Modi continuing. There could be drama where BJP leaders and cadre asking Modi to continue etc etc. a wink wink well played out drama.

Your take on sooner elections is interesting. Had not given that line a thought until now.
If that happens, I would believe transfer of power would happen before 2029.
 
Azaad said:
Frankly there's a good chance of a hung assembly in MH. If not that , then the second scenario is the MVA triumphing . I don't see the MahaYuthi winning this one.

Contrary to what people here declare there was little to distinguish the 2 SS factions in terms of the results in the just concluded general elections.

The biggest disappointments were the BJP & AP factions of the NCP contrary to expectations whereas the biggest surprise was the Congress which before the election was seen as an organisation teetering on the brink & at its weakest it's ever been in MH.

Granted state & central elections are not the same hence be prepared for the unexpected - pre & post polls . Nothing is as it seems here. The man single handedly responsible for all this anarchy is Chuddhav & the way things are unfolding he may yet have the last laugh.

The other variable is how long vakde tond / Baramati che kaka'd survive. He's already 84 if I'm not mistaken & has undergone at least a dozen operations for oral cancer.
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Yea even i don't think Bhajipao will win this, but then i didn't think Bhajipao wouldn't win Haryana either, but Bhajipao stole that Jalebi from Pappu's mouth so :bplease:


Which is why i'm banking on some surprise, rug-pull, ultimate troll ghar wapsi of Uddhav back into NDA, maybe his son will be given a plum portfolio or something and he can be CM.

btw cunning old men survive well into their old age and don't die easily, while their brain remains sharper than even in their youth, pic related is an (((international example))), so don't bank on the Baron of Baramati kicking the bucket

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दुबारा होंगे हरियाणा विधान सभा चुनाव

राहुल पहुँचे सुप्रीम कोर्ट, EVM की
गड़बड़ी को लेकर की शिकायत।

निर्वाचन आयोग ने पाँच साल बाद दोबारा चुनाव का आश्वासन दिया, राहुल गांधी ने आयोग का कोटि कोटि धन्यवाद किया।

2029 में होंगे फिर से चुनाव।

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सुप्रीम कोर्ट का आदेश..
दुबारा होंगे हरियाणा विधान सभा चुनाव

राहुल पहुँचे सुप्रीम कोर्ट, EVM की
गड़बड़ी को लेकर की शिकायत।

निर्वाचन आयोग ने पाँच साल बाद दोबारा चुनाव का आश्वासन दिया, राहुल गांधी ने आयोग का कोटि कोटि धन्यवाद किया।

2029 में होंगे फिर से चुनाव।

राहुल ने इसे कॉंग्रेस की बड़ी जीत बताया।

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