One thing i find also JuttSikhi khalikhopris are not aware, but once aware, enter into rage-monkey is when they get too caught up in their ' muh martial punjabis' claptrap and get made aware that Punjab is literally FACKING ZERO and the only ZERO of any major Indian ethnic group/region at historical nation building and even we pussy bongs have far stronger chops at martial tradition than Punjabis.
First they go 'muh Ranjit Singh' and i tell them that while i admire Ranjit singh greatly, one swallow does not make a summer and an empire or kingdom is not one that dies with its facking founder, no matter how great that said king/emperor was.
They look incredulous, then i drop the Pala bomb on them : yes, we bongs are losers who allegedly pussed out to 1000 turks on fast horses beeling for the capital. But then again, our pussy emperor was 80+ year old pussy but hey, AT LEAST we had the pala empire, where Devpal & Dharmpal were atleast powerful enough to be called Uttarapathesvami ( lord of the uttar patha, ie, lord of northern India) and laid a total smackdown on the great pratihara empire, at least initially. yes, you can argue till cows come home that Mihir Bhoja or Vatsaraja were better, many other great empires exist, pals were no great shakes, but hey AT LEAST WE POOSY BONGS DID IT. we had a 400 year period of being our own facking kingdom, ruled by the facking local dynasty, who for many decades of this period, ruled entire fackin northern india up to facking kabul itself.
Now...what have our great punjabis done, except being either the punching bag of invader or totally taken over BY invaders ?
Like yes, Punjab too has hosted great empires & kingdoms - Lahore was the capital of the Mughals for a while but even leaving aside the moozies, who are the great kings/emperors to've ruled from Punjab ?
Answer : menander, mihirkul, his father Toramann, Azez, Guduvahara.
yes, these are the great rulers in Punjab's history, who ruled from Punjab, mostly from Sakala, aka Sialkot.
Who are they ? Indo-Greek, Hun, Hun, Indo-Scythian & indo-parthian respectively. Literally facking conquerors who are not punjabi - not now, not then.
othewise, entire history of Punjabistan is split between being ruled from dudes in Kabul-Gandhara region ( Kushans, Indo-Greeks, Persians, Huns, then Turks like Ghaznavids) or being itty bitty doabi kingdoms ( puru times) or being ruled by power from magadh or later kannauj.
Then they bring up the military awards they have won in the last 200 years, the most decorated battalion ( i dunno how true, but they love to say it, so it take it as face value but matters not as one will see why), blahblah and i just calmly point out, that while all that is great, well they did it all under the brit boot with brit equipment and brit command, just like we bongs and dehati biharis & upites took down the great khalsa army without even breaking a sweat 2 seconds after your one and done great king in entire facking history to unite punjab as 1 AS A PUNJABI died.
This usually is checkmate and leads to total silence or mutterings, at least the few times this has happened in work/social occasions with me.
PS: Dont get me wrong, i feel for the punjabis. they got a shitty deal in history : vast prime lands perfect for cavalry warfare but no horses. Also no elephants to even do some compensation ( natural range of asian elephants end at the Yamuna and that has been true for thousands of years, at least what we know from paleontology/archaeology).
At least we bong-bihari-upites had the option of pulling a gupta/magadh empire going 'fack u, 10,000 war elephants - yes they are slow and i may never catch u, but when i do, u die' to any cavalry force known to man.
So did the south, plus the south had the added leverage of having a greek/italian like geography of plenty of choke-points to pull off freaking 300 and beat massive empires as little tiny itty bitty kingdoms and turn truly scary when they formed empires.
yes, i get it. Punjabis are actually a brave lot to have some sort of cultural independence and still despite being literally the first entry hole of the gangbang, has managed to remain at least 40-50% native in its core.
Those are hallowed accomplishments. But muh 'martial race' juttskihi ? PUHLEASE.
I rank them in the bottom 5% of muh martial races of india if we divide by ethnicity/culture. And those are the facts that they need reminding, instead of just coming out with 'ur tyres are just pumped by your gora master's baksheesh to you for being a good attack & guard dog' that did carry over into the modern Indian army times, so congrats, but kindly dont go into 'muh martial race' claptrap coz if history is invoked, punjab & punjabis are nobodies in the martial ladder.
Heck, even we bongs are nobodies but at least we can claim to have had AN EMPIRE, so we didnt get out for a duck at least.
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