Indian Politics and Democracy

Why is the quality of discourse on Indian related Sub-Reddits is so low compared to other countries? I find Twitter having higher Intellectual Discourse for the dumpster fire it is.

If you look every discussion on SM regarding Delhi choking, it all boils down to 3 vomits:
1. Normie-1 blames Modi and BJP
2. Normie-2 blames Vehicles, Industries and advocate to shut it down. These are the ones who never worked a day.
3. Normie-3 blames Indian People and Politicians, Caste, Religion and all that.

No one No fucking idiot is speaking on Farm Fires which is the major cause now. Everyone is afraid to criticize them and of course because we have Room Temperature IQ pests that parrot "Don't blame Annadata" rhetoric.
 
Why is the quality of discourse on Indian related Sub-Reddits is so low compared to other countries? I find Twitter having higher Intellectual Discourse for the dumpster fire it is.

If you look every discussion on SM regarding Delhi choking, it all boils down to 3 vomits:
1. Normie-1 blames Modi and BJP
2. Normie-2 blames Vehicles, Industries and advocate to shut it down. These are the ones who never worked a day.
3. Normie-3 blames Indian People and Politicians, Caste, Religion and all that.

No one No fucking idiot is speaking on Farm Fires which is the major cause now. Everyone is afraid to criticize them and of course because we have Room Temperature IQ pests that parrot "Don't blame Annadata" rhetoric.
Indian Reddit threads are totally gone case.

There is literally sub for each state of India and all are run by Left leaning guys. There is so much propaganda and black-piling on each of these state subs. Every other person is telling others to leave the country as soon as possible and how BJP has destroyed the nation. Ask them for proof and you will get downvoted and banned form the sub.​
 
Why is the quality of discourse on Indian related Sub-Reddits is so low compared to other countries? I find Twitter having higher Intellectual Discourse for the dumpster fire it is.

If you look every discussion on SM regarding Delhi choking, it all boils down to 3 vomits:
1. Normie-1 blames Modi and BJP
2. Normie-2 blames Vehicles, Industries and advocate to shut it down. These are the ones who never worked a day.
3. Normie-3 blames Indian People and Politicians, Caste, Religion and all that.

No one No fucking idiot is speaking on Farm Fires which is the major cause now. Everyone is afraid to criticize them and of course because we have Room Temperature IQ pests that parrot "Don't blame Annadata" rhetoric.

social media moderation is designed in such a way, that parts of debate can be de-amplified or erased. it was originally intended to remove criminality laden harmful content( child pornography, terrorism) from public discourse, this feature has been politically/ideologically weaponised as thought control mechanism. where parts of relevant information in a discourse removed intentionally, as a result entire discourse becomes lopsided. once key sentences/information are removed from a conversation, the inferences/takeaways that an individual arrives at, will become lopsided.

in this case, since a libtard favourite political party is in power in punjab and delhi, agenda to keep them in power takes priority over having honest conversations, speaking "truth to power" becomes optional. even if "truth" is spoken, "accountability" suddenly falls on "all of us" which is not the yardstick used if a non-favourite political party was in power in delhi and punjab.

same thing happening in canada,
same thing happened in USA,
same thing happening in europe ,
for their own domestic libtard agendas.

earlier we has editorial gate keeping, now we have a new kind of gate keeping, but all of them have the same purpose "thought control".
 
Why is the quality of discourse on Indian related Sub-Reddits is so low compared to other countries? I find Twitter having higher Intellectual Discourse for the dumpster fire it is.

If you look every discussion on SM regarding Delhi choking, it all boils down to 3 vomits:
1. Normie-1 blames Modi and BJP
2. Normie-2 blames Vehicles, Industries and advocate to shut it down. These are the ones who never worked a day.
3. Normie-3 blames Indian People and Politicians, Caste, Religion and all that.

No one No fucking idiot is speaking on Farm Fires which is the major cause now. Everyone is afraid to criticize them and of course because we have Room Temperature IQ pests that parrot "Don't blame Annadata" rhetoric.
There is another factor.

Delhi has always been dusty.

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There is another factor.

Delhi has always been dusty.

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The pollution in NCR and North of India is pretty much due to the geography. With similar level of construction and industries many other cities around the world won't have similar level of the pollution as in India.

Also, one of the biggest contributing factor in PM2.5 is the salt mining in Afghanistan which reached it peak during mid 2000s during which the problem started on larger scale in India.​
 
The pollution in NCR and North of India is pretty much due to the geography. With similar level of construction and industries many other cities around the world won't have similar level of the pollution as in India.

Also, one of the biggest contributing factor in PM2.5 is the salt mining in Afghanistan which reached it peak during mid 2000s during which the problem started on larger scale in India.​
Rajasthan needs to be saved from desertification if some relif is expected. Rest will be counterbalanced from Porkistan which will further desertify.
 
Rajasthan needs to be saved from desertification if some relif is expected. Rest will be counterbalanced from Porkistan which will further desertify.
Why not shift the capital further south say in MP instead ? Look at the US in this respect . None of their capital cities be it the national capital or that of the states are top cities either in terms of industries or hosting financial corporations or the service industry or even real estate. They're bureaucrats hubs only. True mostly about all 5 I countries except UK.
 
Porkistan had 33% forest cover when they got independence and now they have 5%


Why not shift the capital further south say in MP instead ? Look at the US in this respect . None of their capital cities be it the national capital or that of the states are top cities either in terms of industries or hosting financial corporations or the service industry or even real estate. They're bureaucrats hubs only. True mostly about all 5 I countries except UK.

This has been a rather popular demand from niche subsection of Indian masses but since mudi already spent billions on new parliament its not going to happen for the next 50 to 100 years. I don't know exactly what is up with this obsession of Delhi.

I for one fully support this, capital needs to be somewhere along Maharashtra, MP border.
 
Why not shift the capital further south say in MP instead ? Look at the US in this respect . None of their capital cities be it the national capital or that of the states are top cities either in terms of industries or hosting financial corporations or the service industry or even real estate. They're bureaucrats hubs only. True mostly about all 5 I countries except UK.

Most people would want this

This has been a rather popular demand from niche subsection of Indian masses but since mudi already spent billions on new parliament its not going to happen for the next 50 to 100 years. I don't know exactly what is up with this obsession of Delhi.

But our esteemed Leaderji and all his colleagues irrespective of party don't.


Padosi Mulq's capital was Karachi after independence, but they created Islumabad just because it was a healthy distance away from bullying by the infidel
Also right next to (((Rawalpindi))) like how Chandigarh-Mohali-Panchkula are here
 
Why not shift the capital further south say in MP instead ? Look at the US in this respect . None of their capital cities be it the national capital or that of the states are top cities either in terms of industries or hosting financial corporations or the service industry or even real estate. They're bureaucrats hubs only. True mostly about all 5 I countries except UK.
i have thought of the very same. Jabalpur region or close to it. Literal centre of India, has water ( narbada) and is relatively hilly enough to not instantly turn into a raging flat plains shithole in 2 seconds flat with some minimal planning.
My only hichki, is that its also close to some of the last remaining pristine nature in the dakkhin and it would be a travesty to india's history and culture to delete that in the name of a new capital.
 
Why not shift the capital further south say in MP instead ? Look at the US in this respect . None of their capital cities be it the national capital or that of the states are top cities either in terms of industries or hosting financial corporations or the service industry or even real estate. They're bureaucrats hubs only. True mostly about all 5 I countries except UK.
We have come far ahead to take action on moving captal now. Those states in US and national capital in many countries were established years and years back.

Doing such thing now will incur astronomical expenses and efforts.​
 
Most people would want this



But our esteemed Leaderji and all his colleagues irrespective of party don't.


Padosi Mulq's capital was Karachi after independence, but they created Islumabad just because it was a healthy distance away from bullying by the infidel
Also right next to (((Rawalpindi))) like how Chandigarh-Mohali-Panchkula are here

This is also true, plus dilli has by now become the 'beijing' of India - for good or bad, its seen as the capital city of choice due to a lot of historical prestige/baggage issues as well that needs to be forgotten first.
ultimately the main thing about new capital is, you cannot justify it in India's current economic state, just the hundreds of billions or trillion+ it would eventually end up costing ( coz we indians are corrupt, we know a lot of people will get rich just being involved in name only with new capital).
So it wont happen for another 40-50 years i think, but from that point on, it may become a consideration due to better mechanics of the 4i system of seperation of commercial base from administrative bases.
 
This is also true, plus dilli has by now become the 'beijing' of India - for good or bad, its seen as the capital city of choice due to a lot of historical prestige/baggage issues as well that needs to be forgotten first.
ultimately the main thing about new capital is, you cannot justify it in India's current economic state, just the hundreds of billions or trillion+ it would eventually end up costing ( coz we indians are corrupt, we know a lot of people will get rich just being involved in name only with new capital).
So it wont happen for another 40-50 years i think, but from that point on, it may become a consideration due to better mechanics of the 4i system of seperation of commercial base from administrative bases.

Yearly DILLI CHALLO regime change mobs and possible ez attack by Padosi Mulq and and Padosi Mulq( Afeemchi ) is their cross to bear then.

I'm mainly for shifting capital to protect it from regime change mobs
 
Yearly DILLI CHALLO regime change mobs and possible ez attack by Padosi Mulq and and Padosi Mulq( Afeemchi ) is their cross to bear then.

I'm mainly for shifting capital to protect it from regime change mobs
yes and i am too but i just dont see a pathway that works out well for india in even floating it before the next quarter century. we are not there yet economically to justify such a huge move, nor is our babugiri cleaned up enough to attempt something without hundreds of billions being looted.
Thats a practical reality too - we have so far survived the dilli chalo fuckwits. we may not survive such a giant ghaplaa riddled project of such magnitude economically or politically for all who are involved, especially bjp if they get pinned the blame when dust settles for starting it all.
 
Why not shift the capital further south say in MP instead ? Look at the US in this respect . None of their capital cities be it the national capital or that of the states are top cities either in terms of industries or hosting financial corporations or the service industry or even real estate. They're bureaucrats hubs only. True mostly about all 5 I countries except UK.

solutions exist without having to move the capital :

- smoke from stubble burning : either as a result of farm laws or on their own, punjab and adjacent region farmers planting anything other than rice and wheat for the season before.
- smoke from power plants : solar plants + rooftop solar.
- vehicular pollution : electric vehicles for in-city travel.
- smoke from winter fires on roads : public electric heaters (preferably connected to rooftop solar)

this will cover most of the particulate matter.

remaining ones are industrial pollution, and road dust. there is a commercial cost to solving these two.

i suppose next opportunity to solve this will come around the time renewables reach 500 gw capacity, in the meantime EVs need to give a good value proposition for mass transition(from ICE) for delhi NCR wallahs.

even with all this, AQI is unlikely to go below 150. but it is better than what it is now.
 
Low turnout in Maharashtra only 32% till one pm, total turnout might not cross 60. Election on working day could be the reason.
Meanwhile jharkhand is getting 47% turnout.

Till 1 pm
 
Update
45% in my
60% in jh

Till 3 pm
People in Mh are disgusted & confused . This is their way of expressing their contempt for the entire process. Be ready for a hung assembly & prolonged instability . This is what it looks like from here as of now .
 

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