Indian Politics and Democracy

[DingDong]

Slay both these bastards as well.

I suggest you watch a film named Rashomon by the great Japanese director Akira Kurosawa. Also research about the "Rashomon effect" which is well known phenomenon among the law enforcement practitioners.

The Rashomon effect is a phenomenon where multiple people interpret the same event differently. It's also known as the Kurosawa effect.

In the real world Truth takes multiple forms. There is no absolute Truth. There is a reason why the courts of law guarantee proper trial and defense for the accused.

there is nothing stopping boys and men keeping their's in their pants.

There is no love, it's just sex.
Call me old fashioned but if as a man if you are ready to have sex with a woman, you better be ready to marry her.

Does the same principle apply on the girls as well. The feminists and the liberals will cancel you for saying such thing.

 

[Suryavanshi]

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So she did have a brother studying in the same college.

 

[TringTringMonster]

A mythical army of medieval marauders should lay waste the entire KIIT campus

No need for that. I visited my alma matter just a day before all this erupted. After years. Turns out that's all the bad luck they needed lmao.

This is nothing new for the KIIT. ALL Universities in India hide this type of cases. There were cases when I was studying there. Every University in Odisha and for that matter India has hides this type of shit.

I knew this was gonna blow up and I knew how the college admin was gonna react. I knew they are gonna fuck up the situation. What the colleges need to recognize is that you can't hide shit in internet age. Information, support and influence can be rallied at lightening speed. It can be used to E Lynch anyone or escalate the situation to international level.

What the college should have done is completely gone transparent and handed over the matter to police to let them investigate. Basically, wash their hands off the issue from the very get go.

Btw, what terrifies me it's extremely easy to E lynch someone in this day and age. Like if a dedicated campaign starts against me that I did something that I didnt do. The police is gonna put me in jail immediately, my life will be over and my family is gonna be harrassed first long before actual the truth comes out.

Along with that people don't know what exactly happened but the guy's life is beyond fucked. If it turns out to be false, how many are gonna put up a sorry?

Lastly, what's with the dear men..., Dear women..., I am worried..., I am ashamed..., leave India asap.... like posts, comments?

 

[randombully]

If this becomes the universal way of justice, half of Indians will be rotting in the jail or worse. That applies on you as well.

It is not unknown or surprising for people to use harsh words during a heated argument. The one recording the conversation cannot afford to do so for the obvious reasons.



It always amazes me why the internet is full of adrenaline junkies and hypocrites. Those same people who want to hang this boy without a trial were defending the "freedom of speech" of Allahabadia and Raina yesterday.

Hypocrisy is human( living being would be better) nature, from countries to individuals all are hypocrite including you and me, some Hypocrisies are normalised among humans, some not.
Tho again using Hypocrisy as an counter while common is a logical fallacy, not because Hypocrisy doesn't exist, but because it exists in everyone.
So it's not bad just because it's "Hypocrite".


So using the word double standard would be better here, and again humans react on emotion and use logic to justify their emotions, we never overcame our basic nature.

 

[randombully]

there is nothing stopping boys and men keeping their's in their pants.

There is no love, it's just sex.
Call me old fashioned but if as a man if you are ready to have sex with a woman, you better be ready to marry her.

That's your Personal opinion according to your belief.
But by that logic women should also be legally forced to marry the guy she had sex with even if she doesn't want to, and in this "modern world" she legally and morally can't be forced into it, but in this same "modern" "equal" world a men legally can be

 

[Prasad]

That's your Personal opinion according to your belief.
But by that logic women should also be legally forced to marry the guy she had sex with even if she doesn't want to, and in this "modern world" she legally and morally can't be forced into it, but in this same "modern" "equal" world a men legally can be

in India, if there is an accident between a truck and a biker, the blame is always on the truck, no matter who is at fault.

Similarly, there is no country on earth, except muslim countries that favor men over women in any of these matters.
No matter what happens, it's men who would be screwed.

That is the reality, so, act as per reality.

I understand your logic but that's not how world works. Better young men learn this fast before some of you get hit in the nuts by a manipulative wench.

 

[randombully]

in India, if there is an accident between a truck and a biker, the blame is always on the truck, no matter who is at fault.

Similarly, there is no country on earth, except muslim countries that favor men over women in any of these matters.
No matter what happens, it's men who would be screwed.

That is the reality, so, act as per reality.

I understand your logic but that's not how world works. Better young men learn this fast before some of you get hit in the nuts by a manipulative wench.

We can fight and protest against it.
It doesn't take much in online age.
If women had the same attitude you are describing they would never achieve their so called "equality"

 

[DingDong]

Hypocrisy is human( living being would be better) nature, from countries to individuals all are hypocrite including you and me, some Hypocrisies are normalised among humans, some not.
Tho again using Hypocrisy as an counter while common is a logical fallacy, not because Hypocrisy doesn't exist, but because it exists in everyone.
So it's not bad just because it's "Hypocrite".


So using the word double standard would be better here, and again humans react on emotion and use logic to justify their emotions, we never overcame our basic nature.

A man might be a chain smoker himself, but still stop his kids from picking up the habit. That cannot be counted under "hypocrisy" because it is driven by the various roles an individual plays in the society (self vs parent). It can be called a double standard though.

IMO, the real hypocrisy is exhibited when people don't hold on to their own moral standards despite being the neutral observers (no change in role/responsibility).

We can fight and protest against it.
It doesn't take much in online age.
If women had the same attitude you are describing they would never achieve their so called "equality"

Nature doesn't allow equality. The maximum a free society can offer is "equal opportunity".

 

[Suryavanshi]

Whatever be the case a girl has died and possibly most likely the guy is at fault. The girl approached College authorities for the same so at least the college should have taken responsibility than.

 

[randombully]

A man might be a chain smoker himself, but still stop his kids from picking up the habit. That cannot be counted under "hypocrisy" because it is driven by the various roles an individual plays in the society (self vs parent). It can be called a double standard though.

IMO, the real hypocrisy is exhibited when people don't hold on to their own moral standards despite being the neutral observers (no change in role/responsibility).



Nature doesn't allow equality. The maximum a free society can offer is "equal opportunity".

Nature doesn't allow equality. The maximum a free society can offer is "equal opportunity".

Waa bhai, Mai akela nahi hu iss idea waala.
But again, we can pursue legal justice and pragmatism just like women did.
Don't just bow down and accept injustice.

 

[ezsasa]

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[crazywithmath]

Tbh retarded indian laws make it so that if a man has sex with a women on pretext of mairrage and that goes back on his promises than he can be tried for rape.
How does one even confirm if there was promise?

Milaards have since diluted these provisions. What does the BNS say about this tho?

 

[Cheepek]

How is the college/university administration responsible for romantic relationship between the two adults gone wrong? Had it been a male nobody would have cared. The girl had the option of approaching the police, she did not.

A few words were spoken in anger, however that doesn't hide the fact that the hive-minded protesters were trying to disturb peace over such issue. The university administration did what was important for bringing order back on the campus.

"Majority of Indians" don't need to bear the burden of such incidences.

The college did not take any action on the girl's complaint
The college tried to hush it up by letting the guy leave, he was caught from the airport
Her peers, obviously enraged by the college's conduct protested, and how did the college handle it? By forcibly evicting all (including those who may not have been involved) from the college just because they stood up for a dead girl from their own tribe.

Why do you think the college is not responsible? If there was no gross negligence from the college, maybe the girl would've been alive. The least college could've done is not show apathy towards her peers. But what did they do? They did what 99% of these private schools do- damage control and minimise "loss of reputation", until it blew up

 

[Cheepek]

This fiasco could've been easily avoided if the college believed they have some responsibility towards the students, and not just towards the interests of shitty trustees!


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[DingDong]

The college did not take any action on the girl's complaint
The college tried to hush it up by letting the guy leave, he was caught from the airport
Her peers, obviously enraged by the college's conduct protested, and how did the college handle it? By forcibly evicting all (including those who may not have been involved) from the college just because they stood up for a dead girl from their own tribe.

Why do you think the college is not responsible? If there was no gross negligence from the college, maybe the girl would've been alive. The least college could've done is not show apathy towards her peers. But what did they do? They did what 99% of these private schools do- damage control and minimise "loss of reputation", until it blew up

Depends on the nature of complaint. The college administration is not duty bound to resolve every GF-BF drama that happens on the campus. Even if there was an omission, it doesn't constitute an offense.


I have met enough number of hive-minded adrenaline junkies in my life to trust this "standing up for an unfortunate girl" theory.


I can tell thousands of similar stories where the girl or boy just decide to move on like mature adults. I won't put any blame on the administration for something which was a voluntary act by an adult, possibly under depression (mental disease). Prima-facie, there was no coercion.

If there was no coercion, then whatever the girl did was her own free will, and nobody needs to bear the burden of her dark fate.

This fiasco could've been easily avoided if the college believed they have some responsibility towards the students, and not just towards the interests of shitty trustees!


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Let us discuss this after the dust settles down. Nothing will happen, this is just situation management.

 

[Cheepek]

Depends on the nature of complaint. The college administration is not duty bound to resolve every GF-BF drama that happens on the campus. Even if there was an omission, it doesn't constitute an offense.


I have met enough number of hive-minded adrenaline junkies in my life to trust this "standing up for an unfortunate girl" theory.


I can tell thousands of similar stories where the girl or boy just decide to move on like mature adults. I won't put any blame on the administration for something which was a voluntary act by an adult, possibly under depression (mental disease). Prima-facie, there was no coercion.

If there was no coercion, then whatever the girl did was her own free will, and nobody needs to bear the burden of her dark fate.



Let us discuss this after the dust settles down. Nothing will happen, this is just situation management.

Not everyone reports a gf-bf drama to college, and the college is bound to address complaints. If there is a legal duty to act, and there is a failure to do so; then even omission can be considered as an offence.

 

[Comet]

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[DingDong]

Not everyone reports a gf-bf drama to college, and the college is bound to address complaints. If there is a legal duty to act, and there is a failure to do so; then even omission can be considered as an offence.

Imagine, I am a property owner and one of my adult tenants tells me about harassment from her BF which I decide to not give a damn about (because it is none of my business) and later commits suicide. What should be my punishment in your opinion?

There is absolutely no "legal duty to act against or report" a crime except in a few exceptional circumstances (e.g. an act of terrorism). There exist good reasons for such provision.

 

[Cheepek]

Imagine, I am a property owner and one of my adult tenants tells me about harassment from her BF which I decide to not give a damn about (because it is none of my business) and later commits suicide. What should be my punishment in your opinion?

There is absolutely no "legal duty to act against or report" a crime except in a few exceptional circumstances (e.g. an act of terrorism). There exist good reasons for such provision.

As a property owner you may not be bound to report harassment of your tenant to authorities, but as a college you are legally bound to act on complaints of harassment. Failure to do so might be considered as an offence.
UGC has very clear guidelines for it, what I am not sure if the international relations office (to which the girl complained since she was a foreign student) has the same sop.

 

[Blademaster]

Imagine, I am a property owner and one of my adult tenants tells me about harassment from her BF which I decide to not give a damn about (because it is none of my business) and later commits suicide. What should be my punishment in your opinion?

There is absolutely no "legal duty to act against or report" a crime except in a few exceptional circumstances (e.g. an act of terrorism). There exist good reasons for such provision.

College dorm is very much different from an apartment. For starters, the students residing in the dorm are your wards. You have an implicit duty to protect these students. The dorm was on the property grounds of the college. So yeah the college had a duty to do something about it.