Indian Politics and Democracy

[sameer]

as if anything he does is going to make a dent in any of the taunts he receives, then it is going to some other wishlist.
there is no end to this nonsense.

how the commies have effed up thought process of generations of Indian is still amusing to me, such a success story. any news or data point comes up, it's always rr in tangential direction.

it was hard before when MSM was the major player in discourse, now we have SM in the mix.

Lol, the all too familiar commie deflection.

No Amreeki or Cheeni president would've ever create an account on an Indian social media platform(if it existed). It's about having the basic self awareness and perception which the vishwaguru seems to lack here. Creating an account on a platform which is filled with people who despise your type is retarded.

But anyway I'll leave it here and don't want to argue further on this.

 

[crazywithmath]

Koo may have ultimately failed even if he created an account and posted there exclusively, or maybe not. We wouldn't know without him atleast trying.

Truth social is alive because Trump posts there almost exclusively and rarely on Twitter. Similar arguments can be made if Modi could've created an account there, posting there exclusively his mann ki baat or other stuff and brought his millions of followers.

Anyway, my point is that he doesn't need to go on that right wing MAGATurd wignat platform and ingratiate himself to the American right. Wouldn't be surprised if his replies already have some racist anti Indian memes. He used to have a Weibo account too, and later deleted it after the galwan thing.

Damn, you beat me to it! I was going to mention that, Ji has a history of reaching out this way to people he deems 'problematic'.

I won't be surprised if Ji and his cabinet are looking at this with their 'aapda mein avsar' mentality - they are jubilant because the orange rapist is going after those chongs with everything he has got and hence, sensing an opportunity to strike a 'deal' to directly substitute the chongs in burgerland.

Maybe they will be successful or maybe not. I just do not think that you can engage with Trump 2.0 - that freak is on a mission to do whatever the heck he wants and cause chaos. All his cabinet picks are yes men so nobody to keep him in check.

And nurturing domestic SM companies require direct govt backing and preferential marker access/treatement. The guys you are thinking of taking on are market proven in the rest of the world and boast of unprecedented scale - the domestic alternatives do not really stand a chance even if Ji were to open accounts there.

Koo was quite successful among Indian RW, BJP handles were quite active, a lot of our media orgs would routinely post there. It was successful even outside India - you would routinely come across users from Latin America (Brazil especially) and Africa even when it was about to shut down. It still could not survive because the covid era VC funding boom (facilitated by low interest rates globally) was ending and when emerging start-ups like Koo ran out of cash there was nobody to bail them out (because the interest rates were raised to curb inflation and with it all that easy VC money dried out). A gormint stake in the company could have prevented it.

Gormints should seriously consider taking up stakes across a number of Indian SM start-ups. Or they can create some DRDO/In-Space like org to collaborate with start-ups and private companies. They can fund multiple projects in parallel to prevent monopoy in each segment, if required.

Think of it this way. Why did UPI beat the likes of PayPal in India? Because the gormint backed it, integrated it with India Stack and bent the rules. Why is Rupay outcompeting Visa, MasterCard and American Express? Because the gormint bankrolled its development and forced it down the throat of the card issuers.

 

[ezsasa]

Lol, the all too familiar commie deflection.

i have tried to find a better explanation for years, yet to find a reasonable alternative explanation.

two institutions that primarily responsible for shaping how public thinks, education and news media. both are still under the firm grip of commie(marxist) and socialist ideology.

what are the common themes that every discussion goes thru:

- why is mai baap sarkaar not doing xyz
- why is mai baap sarkaar doing xyz
- everything is sarkaar's fault.
- successes are under reported, the supposed failures are amplified.
- anything that a non-commie govt does is absolutely wrong
- anything that a commie allied govt does is god's gift to mankind
- always comparing to some random utopian idea as a benchmark

etc etc.

their long term goal is to bring down the existing "system" by instigating the public against the "system" and replace it with their own.

 

[sameer]

Koo was quite successful among Indian RW, BJP handles were quite active, a lot of our media orgs would routinely post there. It was successful even outside India - you would routinely come across users from Latin America (Brazil especially) and Africa even when it was about to shut down. It still could not survive because the covid era VC funding boom (facilitated by low interest rates globally) was ending and when emerging start-ups like Koo ran out of cash there was nobody to bail them out (because the interest rates were raised to curb inflation and with it all that easy VC money dried out). A gormint stake in the company could have prevented it.

Yeah, Barring the initial hiccups, Koo in its heydays (mid to late 2022 if I remember correctly) was actually pretty decent. They had Lula(Brazilian president) as well as the Nigerian President. Dalai lama was there too as were many news organizations all posting regularly. Even Momota Begum and TMC elite were there lol.

But yeah, it is insanely hard to compete with American social media apps simply because of the funding and revenue they get vs the peanuts that ours get. Amreeki low borrowing rates is an extraordinary advantage that no other country has. And , since, our link language is mostly English, our SM startups have no choice but to compete with deep pocketed American conglomerates. Even Sharechat, Moj, seem to be suffering and have been taken over by reels and shorts.

Afaik only China has succeeded in creating its own SM apps, but that too because they banned all foreign apps. If they wouldn't have banned, its the same problem as ours.

Damn, you beat me to it! I was going to mention that, Ji has a history of reaching out this way to people he deems 'problematic'.

I won't be surprised if Ji and his cabinet are looking at this with their 'aapda mein avsar' mentality - they are jubilant because the orange rapist is going after those chongs with everything he has got and hence, sensing an opportunity to strike a 'deal' to directly substitute the chongs in burgerland.

Maybe they will be successful or maybe not. I just do not think that you can engage with Trump 2.0 - that freak is on a mission to do whatever the heck he wants and cause chaos. All his cabinet picks are yes men so nobody to keep him in check.

Perhaps Leader ji is looking for some reprieve on reciprocal tariffs and is handing out an olive branch, but I don't think the orange man will reciprocate though. Have to wait till April 2nd and see what happens.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Yeah, Barring the initial hiccups, Koo in its heydays (mid to late 2022 if I remember correctly) was actually pretty decent. They had Lula(Brazilian president) as well as the Nigerian President. Dalai lama was there too as were many news organizations all posting regularly. Even Momota Begum and TMC elite were there lol.

But yeah, it is insanely hard to compete with American social media apps simply because of the funding and revenue they get vs the peanuts that ours get. Amreeki low borrowing rates is an extraordinary advantage that no other country has. And , since, our link language is mostly English, our SM startups have no choice but to compete with deep pocketed American conglomerates. Even Sharechat, Moj, seem to be suffering and have been taken over by reels and shorts.

Afaik only China has succeeded in creating its own SM apps, but that too because they banned all foreign apps. If they wouldn't have banned, its the same problem as ours.



Perhaps Leader ji is looking for some reprieve on reciprocal tariffs and is handing out an olive branch, but I don't think the orange man will reciprocate though. Have to wait till April 2nd and see what happens.

This is a poor understanding of social media apps market IMO - be it facebook, insta, twitter, whatsapp etc.

The phenomena we see,is that USA is unbeatable (for whatever reasons i dont know, i am not economist) at INNOVATING a new social media app type- be it twitter or facebook or insta or whatsapp.

What we see is, in the App market, there is hardly any sideways competition in the same type of app- there isnt 3 types of facebooks hanging around or 2 types of instagram, app market has always been the model of 'innovate a new type of app, corner market-share to that type of social media, the end'.

China has been the only entity to COPY existing app types innovated by USA by....banning the USA template makers in the first place : ultimately, its not hard to make a new facebook template with new logo and layout but same feature and functionality- hard is to get people to use it in their millions for whatever reason.
Only way you can solve the problem of being 2nd to the race to a type of app made ( usually by US) is by banning original.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

This is a poor understanding of social media apps market IMO - be it facebook, insta, twitter, whatsapp etc.

The phenomena we see,is that USA is unbeatable (for whatever reasons i dont know, i am not economist) at INNOVATING a new social media app type- be it twitter or facebook or insta or whatsapp.

What we see is, in the App market, there is hardly any sideways competition in the same type of app- there isnt 3 types of facebooks hanging around or 2 types of instagram, app market has always been the model of 'innovate a new type of app, corner market-share to that type of social media, the end'.

China has been the only entity to COPY existing app types innovated by USA by....banning the USA template makers in the first place : ultimately, its not hard to make a new facebook template with new logo and layout but same feature and functionality- hard is to get people to use it in their millions for whatever reason.
Only way you can solve the problem of being 2nd to the race to a type of app made ( usually by US) is by banning original.

yep, this is something people don't understand that, people always flock to most popular thing, another thing is many things that exist on global SM, might not exist on a Indian SM app. things like hollywood movies, gaming news, global finance and a lot. only way you can counter all this , is by completely detaching your populace from globe.

even Chinese population will immediately flock to global SM sites , if they are given chance. its impossible to prevent human from wanting to interact with other humans without force, its just in our nature. What we need in strong domestic de-programming , by that I mean, if Indians come across propaganda from west, they will hear it from one ear and let go from another.

 

[sameer]

This is a poor understanding of social media apps market IMO - be it facebook, insta, twitter, whatsapp etc.

The phenomena we see,is that USA is unbeatable (for whatever reasons i dont know, i am not economist) at INNOVATING a new social media app type- be it twitter or facebook or insta or whatsapp.

What we see is, in the App market, there is hardly any sideways competition in the same type of app- there isnt 3 types of facebooks hanging around or 2 types of instagram, app market has always been the model of 'innovate a new type of app, corner market-share to that type of social media, the end'.

China has been the only entity to COPY existing app types innovated by USA by....banning the USA template makers in the first place : ultimately, its not hard to make a new facebook template with new logo and layout but same feature and functionality- hard is to get people to use it in their millions for whatever reason.
Only way you can solve the problem of being 2nd to the race to a type of app made ( usually by US) is by banning original.

Well, That's what I'm saying. You only have two options here if you want a viable domestic social media market

--One is to either ban the foreign apps, so that your local ones can survive and raise enough money( in billions of $) from the VC's to be able to tide though the first 5-10 years since none of the social media apps make a profit in their first few years. Twiter afaik still can't turn a profit after all these years.

--The other is to out innovate and be a first mover. At the time social media companies started up in Yankee land in early -mid 2000's, most didn't even have a cell phone or internet in India, so the market didn't even exist for some desi founder to get such an idea and take advantage of it.

Even the CEO of Hike Messenger( which was popular among Indian teens till 2020) said the same thing. Unless you ban the Amreeki apps which are backed by insane amounts of VC funding and cheap borrowing rates, we won't have a desi SM app.

 

[crazywithmath]

yep, this is something people don't understand that, people always flock to most popular thing, another thing is many things that exist on global SM, might not exist on a Indian SM app. things like hollywood movies, gaming news, global finance and a lot. only way you can counter all this , is by completely detaching your populace from globe.

even Chinese population will immediately flock to global SM sites , if they are given chance. its impossible to prevent human from wanting to interact with other humans without force, its just in our nature. What we need in strong domestic de-programming , by that I mean, if Indians come across propaganda from west, they will hear it from one ear and let go from another.

Disagree! Turn off gormint communication in other social media platforms or post them with slight delays. Integrate the bigger media houses with comment plug-ins below their articles. That is enough to create the initial critical mass. Then back those platforms up with easy credit/gormint stakes so that the platforms don't ever fail. Once the companies are bigger more innovation would follow and would be capable of taking the phoren SM platforms head on.

Just that it would be a financially expensive (and risky) venture so gormints would have to be willing to play the long game.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

Disagree! Turn off gormint communication in other social media platforms or post them with slight delays. Integrate the bigger media houses with comment plug-ins below their articles. That is enough to create the initial critical mass. Then back those platforms up with easy credit and gormint backing so that the platforms don't ever fail. Once the companies are bigger more innovation would follow and would be capable of takeling the phoren SM platforms head on.

Just that it would be a financially expensive (and risky) venture so gormints would have to be willing to play the long game.

depends on how much govt actually wants it, an authoritarian govt like CCP pretty much can only survive , if they separate their subjects from rest of the world, i doubt BJP thinks like this.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/calm_sutra/status/1901695621922160900?s=19

I agree with this understanding of the Nagpur riots. I believe this is the trailer we're seeing before India erupts once the Waqf bill is introduced in Parliament.

Expect more Shaheen Bagh style protests & "hum dekhenge" songs with lit candles sung by pieces of sh!t bearing Santani names especially those whose ancestors fled from what's now East & West Paxtan.

 

[Psacha123]

View attachment 27770
Caravan is becoming Cult Classic in Messaging.

Looking at these covers, one might not rule out they are secretly being used by BJP


View: https://x.com/neetivaan/status/1902020008709886455?s=46

 

[Azaad]

View: https://twitter.com/ArunKrishnan_/status/1901850235770659082?s=19

Was listening to .@BDUTT's Mojo show on "Decoding Modi's podcast" and what struck me was how those on the left, still don't get him.


Towards the end, Barkha asks one of the guests, a Mr. Sugata (I forget his last name), what he thought of it because Sugata had mentioned that he had not listened to the whole thing because he was bored.


Sugata says (and I am paraphrasing), "He is the first PM who has no western influence. Who hasn't read any western books. Whose knowledge is not textual. He hasn't quoted a Bertrand Russell. A class of PM like Nehru had written his autobiography by the time he was 50 and had put thoughts into words and text."


This is what the left doesn't get. That this is the first PM India has, who has a HINDU and INDIC view of Bharat. Not a western-induced view. That you can be textual (Bhagavad Gita, Upanishads, Vedas are also texts, no?) without reading western thinkers.


After all, how many Indic texts have western leaders read?


This self-confidence of someone rooted in the land and its culture, traditions, thought processes, ethos -- this is precisely why today's Indians vote for him. This is a non-mentally colonised Indian PM. The first such.

 

[eastern_bhartiya]

View: https://twitter.com/ArunKrishnan_/status/1901850235770659082?s=19

That textual stuff is also strange. Even a very highly educated guy can find it hard to put his thought into coherent words.

Writing a unique skill just like sports, singing, drawing etc. Not everybody can convert thoughts into text, you would think this so called buddijivi would know that, but I guess not.

 

[Prasad]

56 inch Vishwacoolie creates an account on the wigga platform Truth social. He never bothered to create one on Koo btw.


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1901643233517785447

Are you really criticizing him for this?
Next what? You shit in your pants and Modi must say sorry because your legs are covered in your shit?

WTF!

 

[haldilal]

 

[Nutcracker]

Are you really criticizing him for this?
Next what? You shit in your pants and Modi must say sorry because your legs are covered in your shit?

WTF!

It shows Modi has habit of seeking aproval from across the world. It is genuine question that why did he not join Koo but went to social media filled with maga pignats.

 

[ezsasa]

It shows Modi has habit of seeking aproval from across the world. It is genuine question that why did he not join Koo but went to social media filled with maga pignats.

he also joined weibo in 2015, and banned weibo in India later in 2020.
what does it tell you...

 

[Nutcracker]

he also joined weibo in 2015, and banned weibo in India later in 2020.
what does it tell you...

It reinforces my point.
What excuse does he have for not joining Koo. A platform which at its peak had higher monthly userbase and more downloads than Truth social.

 

[ezsasa]

It reinforces my point.
What excuse does he have for not joining Koo. A platform which at its peak had higher monthly userbase and more downloads than Truth social.

we will come to what you think you know a bit later, what do you make of modi joining weibo in 2015 and banning the app in 2020?

 

[Nutcracker]

we will come to what you think you know a bit later, what do you make of modi joining weibo in 2015 and banning the app in 2020?

Banned only after galawan. Chinese aggression was blessing in disguise. Had they kept their claws hidden we would've been suffering from double whammy of CCP and American controlled fb-twitter-tiktok propaganda and data privacy.