Indian Special Forces

Airborne22 said:
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR i dont understand what room of improvement do you see in here ? Can you weigh in a bit on it ?
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In this particular loadout, all that I'd like to see added is a PEQ-15/ATPIAL or equivalent which gives you a IR laser+illuminator to complete the night fighting setup. The MOR gives you the IR laser but no illuminator so less useful in indoors/areas with low natural illumination.

Oh, and a suppressed weapon (Tavor/X95 isn't the best platform for suppression so would absolutely love it if they make the switch toward something like SIG MCX).

Other than that, nothing. But what's far more important is to make this kit standard issue for all MARCOS! In the field (anti-piracy ops, the occasional J&K op) we still see a lot of variance though MARCOS is certainly way ahead of everyone else when it comes to kit standardization and we're starting to see PVS-31s in the field.

There's not much reason to go further than this wrt kit modernization - the setup as it exists (barring the couple improvements I mentioned) is broadly good enough for the current 'operator standard' across global SOFs.

The next order of business would be to FORCE this standard onto the Paras & Garuds, as they are obviously unable to do it by themselves due to myriad reasons. One way to make this happen would possibly be through AFSOD - limit the induction of non-MARCOS into the group saying their proficiency with kit not good enough, then make the group do a couple high profile ops, we need to create the notion that AFSOD is elite of the elite (even though on ground it's unlikely to be anything but a dev group in the end) - that might be the only way to force the Army mindset to step up.

They can't handle being told that they're not elite.

Once all the SFs are brought to this standard, only then can the process of standardizing SOPs & joint operations begin. You can't have standard SOPs when one service's SF is able to conduct CQC at night with ease thanks to binocular PVS-31s while the other service can't cuz they have bi-ocular PVS-7s. It would be like mixing the Olympics with the Paralympics cuz all but one SF would be severely handicapped.

hkdas said:

View: https://x.com/Platypus_10/status/1864885792025330076?t=VQ55SlY5Iw8yc9A0rXvPqw&s=19
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This pic...

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I don't know if it's just the angle (cuz other pics of this guy don't seem to show it as prominently) but I think we can't rule out that he's got some kind of internal knee pads...

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On that note - be aware that just because you can't see the kneepads doesn't necessarily mean they aren't there! The 'conformal inserts' like this where the pad hangs out:

Tan_Crye_Airflex_Kneepads_Model_1_w_gradient.jpg


...are NOT the only game in town! A lot of operators prefer the ones that you can slip internally because they have no chance to catch on things in the field unlike the older ones where the pad hangs out^^.
 
Gessler said:
In this particular loadout, all that I'd like to see added is a PEQ-15/ATPIAL or equivalent which gives you a IR laser+illuminator to complete the night fighting setup. The MOR gives you the IR laser but no illuminator so less useful in indoors/areas with low natural illumination.

Oh, and a suppressed weapon (Tavor/X95 isn't the best platform for suppression so would absolutely love it if they make the switch toward something like SIG MCX).

Other than that, nothing. But what's far more important is to make this kit standard issue for all MARCOS! In the field (anti-piracy ops, the occasional J&K op) we still see a lot of variance though MARCOS is certainly way ahead of everyone else when it comes to kit standardization and we're starting to see PVS-31s in the field.

There's not much reason to go further than this wrt kit modernization - the setup as it exists (barring the couple improvements I mentioned) is broadly good enough for the current 'operator standard' across global SOFs.

The next order of business would be to FORCE this standard onto the Paras & Garuds, as they are obviously unable to do it by themselves due to myriad reasons. One way to make this happen would possibly be through AFSOD - limit the induction of non-MARCOS into the group saying their proficiency with kit not good enough, then make the group do a couple high profile ops, we need to create the notion that AFSOD is elite of the elite (even though on ground it's unlikely to be anything but a dev group in the end) - that might be the only way to force the Army mindset to step up.

They can't handle being told that they're not elite.

Once all the SFs are brought to this standard, only then can the process of standardizing SOPs & joint operations begin. You can't have standard SOPs when one service's SF is able to conduct CQC at night with ease thanks to binocular PVS-31s while the other service can't cuz they have bi-ocular PVS-7s. It would be like mixing the Olympics with the Paralympics cuz all but one SF would be severely handicapped.



This pic...

View attachment 17790

I don't know if it's just the angle (cuz other pics of this guy don't seem to show it as prominently) but I think we can't rule out that he's got some kind of internal knee pads...

71GcA6RQi-L_1800x1800.jpg

11462GREY14.JPG


On that note - be aware that just because you can't see the kneepads doesn't necessarily mean they aren't there! The 'conformal inserts' like this where the pad hangs out:

Tan_Crye_Airflex_Kneepads_Model_1_w_gradient.jpg


...are NOT the only game in town! A lot of operators prefer the ones that you can slip internally because they have no chance to catch on things in the field unlike the older ones where the pad hangs out^^.
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Marcos only have PEQ-2 and Mepro Sting LAM as of now, they use seperate IR Illuminator flashlight thing paired with mepro mor's IR laser.
And this combat shirt and pants are probably from the same manufacturer that manufactures their UCP combat pants and shirts and they come with the type of inserts you're mentioning
 
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hkdas said:
Almost a base varient of AN/PVS-31A with 1700+ FOM.
top grade have 2300+ FOM.
AN/PVS 31C have minimum of 2376 FOM.
Tho TATA do have 2100 FOM NVG, navy in 1st batch choose 1700+ FOM NVG, don't know about repeated orders or its quality.
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Airborne22 said:
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR i dont understand what room of improvement do you see in here ? Can you weigh in a bit on it ?
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The ONLY thing that is bugging me on this kit is the way he has retained the rifle close to his chest. A two point sling would do the same job and keep it close to his body but in low ready.
 
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