Indian Special Forces

[Airborne22]

Sorry but why use demonic looking things as symbols?

Are they motorcycle gangs or tattoo artists…or just want to look cool?

Or copy any Gora SF symbol?


21 Para SF uses the waghnak symbol so well..why not use other symbols from history?

Use Maa Kali or Shiv weapons…maybe some symbols from ancient India or make something of your own for which you stand.

waise ma kali has the same amount of skulls as SF battalions army has (number inflated for /jokx) and Goras are using Trident i.e Bhagwaan Shiv's weapon, in so many instances

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

waise ma kali has the same amount of skulls as SF battalions army has (number inflated for /jokx) and Goras are using Trident i.e Bhagwaan Shiv's weapon, in so many instances

I was talking about Maa Kalis weapons

Vajra
Trishul
Khara
Etc

Goras think they invented the Trident in Greece and Rome just like they took swastika symbol and made it look evil.

 

[Arad Operator]

Ok leave it then, here's some info you'd like There's 2 logos usually, one has balidan with the unit's number inscribed on the bottom and the other is unit's own custom logo.
I'm listing out the custom logos -
1 SF - A bear/wolf with blood on it's face with clawmarks
2 SF - An Eagle
3 SF - Russel's viper on the dagger piercing the skull
4 SF - Four Daggers in the shape of 4
5 SF - A parachutist with combat load over the number 5
6 SF - Skull with beret and wings, scrolled tab saying death from above
7 SF - A globe being fucked by a sword and an IL 76
9 SF - Skull with inverted beret with balidan as the beret insignia with the word "Nine" written on the balidan. A dagger in it's mouth
10 SF - Scorpion with Swift Silent Deadly Tagmark
11 SF - Winged 11 with tagline Helleven
12 SF - Skull with hair (has changed now iirc)
13 SF - Thunderbolt with wing iirc
21 SF - Wagnakh
23 SF - Skull with wings
29 SF - recently updated (idk what's the new one)

1SF is a grizzly bear scratching an Oak/Pine tree with blood over its face

That's one way to describe 7 PARA's logoXD

13 is Balidan over a thunderbolt AFAIK

12 is a dragon now I think, also the new nickname is 'The Daredevils' saw on X I think!

29 is just 29 with blue and red light in the backdrop IIRC.

 

[GhatiyaOperator]

I was talking about Maa Kalis weapons

Vajra
Trishul
Khara
Etc

Goras think they invented the Trident in Greece and Rome just like they took swastika symbol and made it look evil.

Logos, mottos, chants ... for a unit may seem like a formality and ceremonial crap for some but is important when we are trying to make a place for ourselves internationally as a nation (maybe not so much in this domain compared to other domains but still)

And agreed that it shouldn't be the prime focus aswell I dont want a shitty force with a cool logo but i believe they will grow eventually
So mentioned the logos because i dont want them to grow permanent like that sas badge

+ 12 shouldn't have changed their nickname and logo, they had great ones from the start 'dirty dozens' and that 9's logo with a hair transplant as Britto sir said on its raising

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Logos, mottos, chants ... for a unit may seem like a formality and ceremonial crap for some but is important when we are trying to make a place for ourselves internationally as a nation (maybe not so much in this domain compared to other domains but still)

And agreed that it shouldn't be the prime focus aswell I dont want a shitty force with a cool logo but i believe they will grow eventually
So mentioned the logos because i dont want them to grow permanent like that sas badge

+ 12 shouldn't have changed their nickname and logo, they had great ones from the start 'dirty dozens' and that 9's logo with a hair transplant as Britto sir said on its raising

Best logo i ever read goes like…

2 6 9 ….

Ek dum fine!!!

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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[GhatiyaOperator]

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Has anyone else noticed this? All pics from 10 there's always a guy with 'awkward' kneepads

And whats that patch on the middle guy

 

[Airborne22]

Has anyone else noticed this? All pics from 10 there's always a guy with 'awkward' kneepads

And whats that patch on the middle guy

External kneepads always get awkward after some usage.

 

[Baseplate]

1SF is a grizzly bear scratching an Oak/Pine tree with blood over its face

That's one way to describe 7 PARA's logoXD

13 is Balidan over a thunderbolt AFAIK

12 is a dragon now I think, also the new nickname is 'The Daredevils' saw on X I think!

29 is just 29 with blue and red light in the backdrop IIRC.

By the look of it , the bear one goes hard

 

[hkdas]

U.S. Navy SEALs, Indian Marine Commando Force, and Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force Train

U.S. Naval Special Warfare (NSW), Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, and Indian Navy Marine Commandos (MARCOS) completed a military-to-military engagement training during the special operations phase

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U.S. Navy SEALs, Indian Marine Commando Force, and Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force Train During Exercise Malabar 2024.​

By Petty Officer 1st Class Alex Perlman, Naval Special Warfare Group ONE
VISAKHAPTNAM, India –
U.S. Naval Special Warfare (NSW), Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force, and Indian Navy Marine Commandos (MARCOS) completed a military-to-military engagement training during the special operations phase of MALABAR 24 on Oct. 14, 2024.

The engagement reinforced and expanded combined special operations forces interoperability with partner nation militaries in support of a Free and Open Indo-Pacific.

“We value the opportunity to train with our counterparts from India and Japan,” said an NSW operator. “It’s the continued collaboration like this that sharpens our tactics and strengthens our bond with our partners in the region.”

The training encompassed a variety of critical skills, including iterations on beach insertion, maritime interdiction, close-quarters combat, and tactical casualty care. Participants engaged in realistic scenarios culminating in a comprehensive capstone exercise featuring maritime interdiction operations and rehearsals for visit, board, search, and seizure techniques.

“After sharing procedures and establishing standards, our combined forces developed realistic special operations scenarios,” said another NSW operator. “This training improved our readiness and interoperability, preparing us to effectively plan and carry out modern missions.”

High-quality, realistic training is essential to maintaining and demonstrating the United States' commitment to a Free and Open Indo-Pacific. Our partners in the Japan Self-Defense Forces and Indian Navy Marine Commandos are incredibly capable allies, and we continue to train and exercise together to improve interoperability and strengthen our capabilities.

NSW is the nation's elite maritime special operations force, uniquely positioned to extend the Fleet's reach. Additionally, U.S. Special Operations Forces provide flexible responses to contingencies in the Indo-Pacific. Integral to this capability is a forward-deployed posture and continuous engagement with partner and ally forces, heightening mutual interoperability and regional expertise.

Malabar 24 is a combined field training exercise with the Royal Australian Navy, Indian Navy, Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force and U.S. Navy participants. The exercise is designed to support achievement of strategic objectives by strengthening partnerships in the Indo-Pacific and promoting interoperability in the conduct of complex warfighting operations.

 

[hkdas]

Idaho National Guard Trains with US, Indian Special Forces

The U.S. Army’s 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne), along with partners from the Indian Army’s Special Operations Forces and the Idaho National Guard’s 124th Air Support Operations Squadron,

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Idaho National Guard Trains with US, Indian Special Forces
By Mike Freeman, Idaho Army National Guard

BOISE, Idaho –
The U.S. Army’s 1st Special Forces Group (Airborne), along with partners from the Indian Army’s Special Operations Forces and the Idaho National Guard’s 124th Air Support Operations Squadron, participated in Exercise Vajra Prahar Nov. 2-22.

The exercise on Orchard Combat Training Center ranges and facilities enhanced relationships between the elite units, focusing on realistic training scenarios that challenge participants in complex environments.

The 124th ASOS provided the Indian soldiers with joint terminal attack controller and close air support instruction to enhance interoperability between Indian and U.S. special operations forces.

“We helped build stronger relationships with the partner force by demonstrating the tactical air control party’s commitment to their success and providing them with valuable training and resources,” said Master Sgt. Douglas K. Brock, a JTAC with 124th ASOS. “In the end, the 124th ASOS showcased their ability to work with anyone, anywhere, at any time to achieve mission success by maintaining a high level of readiness while also building a foundation for future training and development opportunities.”

Vajra Prahar is an annual exercise, now in its 15th year, and changes locations annually between U.S. and Indian training facilities to improve the special operators’ ability to work together in a variety of terrain and climate conditions. It was the first time the exercise was in Idaho.

“The airspace and training facilities have been awesome at the OCTC,” said a member of 1st SFG(A). “They’ve given us the ability to run CH-47 Chinook missions, live talk on JTAC training, conduct sniper training and make direct-action assaults on multiple urban objectives.”

The realistic training environment and integration of skills from participating units fostered tactical improvements and stronger relationships among the partner-nation forces, according to the 1sgt SFG(A) Soldier.

“By engaging in this rigorous training, participants develop their skills, improve communication and foster a spirit of collaboration that is essential for successful operations in real-world situations,” he said. “Working alongside our partners across the Indo-Pacific region increases security capacity and interoperability among our forces.”

The OCTC is a 173,000-acre joint combined arms training site 18 miles south of Boise. It provides world-class training facilities for warfighters from all U.S. armed forces and partner nations.

 

[hkdas]

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[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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Looks glamorous tastes shit!

 

[hkdas]

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[RDXChauhan]

Their performance with all those equipments movement time, response time, ability to carry all the gear should be tested in real situation.

They were seen with similar kit in Kashmir some days back if I am not wrong

 

[Screambowl]

They were seen with similar kit in Kashmir some days back if I am not wrong

Yeah, in black outfit. This was that encounter if I am correct. So they took out 5 means they are able to cope up with the gear.

Five militants killed in an encounter between security forces and militants in north Kashmir's Bandipora district said Defence spokesman.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/five-militants-killed-in-an-encounter-in-north-kashmir-s-bandipora-district-117111800470_1.html

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

On a lighter note!!


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[ManhattanProject]

In this particular loadout, all that I'd like to see added is a PEQ-15/ATPIAL or equivalent which gives you a IR laser+illuminator to complete the night fighting setup. The MOR gives you the IR laser but no illuminator so less useful in indoors/areas with low natural illumination.

Oh, and a suppressed weapon (Tavor/X95 isn't the best platform for suppression so would absolutely love it if they make the switch toward something like SIG MCX).

Other than that, nothing. But what's far more important is to make this kit standard issue for all MARCOS! In the field (anti-piracy ops, the occasional J&K op) we still see a lot of variance though MARCOS is certainly way ahead of everyone else when it comes to kit standardization and we're starting to see PVS-31s in the field.

There's not much reason to go further than this wrt kit modernization - the setup as it exists (barring the couple improvements I mentioned) is broadly good enough for the current 'operator standard' across global SOFs.

The next order of business would be to FORCE this standard onto the Paras & Garuds, as they are obviously unable to do it by themselves due to myriad reasons. One way to make this happen would possibly be through AFSOD - limit the induction of non-MARCOS into the group saying their proficiency with kit not good enough, then make the group do a couple high profile ops, we need to create the notion that AFSOD is elite of the elite (even though on ground it's unlikely to be anything but a dev group in the end) - that might be the only way to force the Army mindset to step up.

They can't handle being told that they're not elite.

Once all the SFs are brought to this standard, only then can the process of standardizing SOPs & joint operations begin. You can't have standard SOPs when one service's SF is able to conduct CQC at night with ease thanks to binocular PVS-31s while the other service can't cuz they have bi-ocular PVS-7s. It would be like mixing the Olympics with the Paralympics cuz all but one SF would be severely handicapped.



This pic...

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I don't know if it's just the angle (cuz other pics of this guy don't seem to show it as prominently) but I think we can't rule out that he's got some kind of internal knee pads...

On that note - be aware that just because you can't see the kneepads doesn't necessarily mean they aren't there! The 'conformal inserts' like this where the pad hangs out:

...are NOT the only game in town! A lot of operators prefer the ones that you can slip internally because they have no chance to catch on things in the field unlike the older ones where the pad hangs out^^.

Hw is using a rope as a sling, they need better slings.

 

[Arad Operator]

@Airborne22 @Noob @Jedi Operator which two former Airborne units you guyz think deserved the SF conversion, post July 2022?

My take:-

5 and 6 PARA Airborne deserved conversion the most!

5 PARA(Airborne) now 5 PARA SF, one of my favourite OG unit. Already had several battle and theatre honors, operated like a Cdo unit despite being an airborne infantry during the wars of 1971 and 1999.
Post conversion, its the best in CFF and other skills among the other erstwhile Airborne units.

6 PARA(Airborne) now 6 PARA SF, my second most favourite OG unit. Performed extremely well during the wars of 1971 and 1999 under the aegis of 50th PARA(I) Brigade. Spearheaded the Op Cactus in Maldives with 3&7 PARA as the body/reserve. One of the most successful units in CI-CT and HAW, conversion was delayed two decades but they deserved to be converted.