Indian Special Forces

pretty much happens, one CAG guy and one SAS guy died while being stuck like that and not being able to come out of it.
I remember reading how 3-4 plank owners of Team six just died in training just three years into its formation. I would liek for you to think that these training accidents, happy it's not fatal are more common than you think. MARCOS have got 5 KIAs and 6 killed in training so far since there formation
rarely does this stuff happen for public displays but training which is a big difference

At least in the West they keep their SOF away from public eyes and they are mission focused. When you do learn of their deaths it’s usually either in operations or training and that keeps some mystique of them

SF are treated like toy things in India whether it is these shows, marching on R day or PSO duties for big brain very very important generals
 
Pakiz aren't a walkover like Sooriyans, you can forget about chings.

Jooz are playing the game on ez mode, with #PhullSapport of the world's only Super Power with their enemies self-combusting or barely holding on with "resistance" with support of some fakir Iranis.

Yet every time pakis go up against anyone including backwards tribals they get ripped apart. Maybe relatively they aren’t a walkover for Indian units but that doesn’t make them any way competent and building them up like this is why Indian leadership is always impotent to every aggression

+ would take 100,000 Israelis with their backs against the wall against 1,000,000 Indians after a govt job
 
Delta is another world above any other unit on the planet, even SAS today will accept they are leagues behind D boys purely in terms of support delta has, they are like a military inside an already elite military
agreed, this was posted on r/JSOC a few years ago and it blew my mind away.....I've almost everything to Sean Naylor's Relentless Strike.

Just to think that Delta also as an aviation squadron of it's own, a signals squadron as well as computer networks squadron and ofcourse AFO ops run by G Squadron makes them a mini version of the entire UKSF - let alone 22 SAS

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Have you ever seen CNN inside a Delta shoot house? Do SAS present all their arms on a cloth covered table and pose for pictures with 12 year gold school kids?
well before 9/11 they used to present arms, infact SAS does demonstrations in Hereford yearly, however they are never publicised.

FBI's HRT has exactly the same kind of shoot house as Delta, their were news reporters who ran us through much of it, again it's not a very well known documentart. It was the best shoot house by early 2000s standards and I suspect the current MARCOS one in Port Blair is similar minus the airplane model


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e17PyNToqE&t=328s&pp=ygUYZmJpIGhydCBiZWhpbmQgdGhlIGRvb3Jz
 
agreed, this was posted on r/JSOC a few years ago and it blew my mind away.....I've almost everything to Sean Naylor's Relentless Strike.

Just to think that Delta also as an aviation squadron of it's own, a signals squadron as well as computer networks squadron and ofcourse AFO ops run by G Squadron makes them a mini version of the entire UKSF - let alone 22 SAS

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I genuinely don’t think the Indian security mind can comprehend the US military let alone JSOC, the lengths they go to train are otherworldly by Indian standards, the skills these boys develop and enhance over decades whilst Indian units are spit shining their boots for parade duties or launching CASOs

there’s a reason JSOC veterans have almost nothing to say about India and its military- they are so irrelevant to them as far as capabilities and standards go they aren’t even worth mentioning.
 
Cause it's just a photo that captures a single frame ? If two guys from the same outfit are doing it logic says that the other two also deem to posses similiar knowledge on snipers ! Or maybe they are just trainees ?! No need to go hyper over a pic. chill
Logic doesnt apply to Indian Army training!



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well before 9/11 they used to present arms, infact SAS does demonstrations in Hereford yearly, however they are never publicised.

FBI's HRT has exactly the same kind of shoot house as Delta, their were news reporters who ran us through much of it, again it's not a very well known documentart. It was the best shoot house by early 2000s standards and I suspect the current MARCOS one in Port Blair is similar minus the airplane model


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e17PyNToqE&t=328s&pp=ygUYZmJpIGhydCBiZWhpbmQgdGhlIGRvb3Jz

Everything is about training and mindset. Look at the level of preparedness these guys had 20+ years ago, the mandate may have been tweaked but never really changed and they merely refined themselves over the years

Indian units are amateurs by these standards
 
that's why i believe that those virgin SoKo and jap SOF can beat us anyday.
There's this ex MARCO chap who recently appeared on millitarymantra he said the Jap SOF and SoKo guys have good drills and are as good as anybody out there he trained with. The thing is, this I have heard from an Ex Green Beret also and an ex Delta guy 'Geo Hand' that these two SOFs need to look good and thus want to know everything about the mission prior, slight change in planning and their op goes south. My take is that it is basically steming from their dependence on going with the flow when they can predict what's to come, their martial arts are also heavily influenced on Kata, save for Kudo - that's a bit more MMAish
 
pretty much happens, one CAG guy and one SAS guy died while being stuck like that and not being able to come out of it.
I remember reading how 3-4 plank owners of Team six just died in training just three years into it's formation. I would liek for you to think that these training accidents, happy it's not fatal are more common than you think. MARCOS have got 5 KIAs and 6 killed in training so far since there formation
Such risky stuff should be kept at a minimum ;
once well trained and proficient and periodic jumps are good but doing such stuff i nearly all events is risky , they are a lot more valuable to be lost doing such shows .

instead go for heliborne stuff .
 
Have you ever seen CNN inside a Delta shoot house? Do SAS present all their arms on a cloth covered table and pose for pictures with 12 year gold school kids?
there's way more shit we know about these units than we should going by what you wrote above. Lemme drop an example - An Indian kid who has spent more than enough time surfing threads related to these units can tell the squadron and tasking of a CAG operator just by looking at his callsign.

Take USSOCOM, arguably the powerhouse SOF elements of the west and NATO, they run active public displays, official PR instagram/YT/LinkedIn pages, every Army SF, Ranger Regt unit has their own PR handles on YT/Insta.

JSOC doesn't have much of this presence but hey... there's always a book/movie/a video game or maybe leaked op footages

This is far from the secrecy you're talking about or maybe im wrong as this might be some grand scheme of things that I'm unaware of (pardon my -82 IQ indian arrogant perspective in that case)
 
Why is are only two guys in the open-leg prone position while the other two aren't?
because that is not our SOP. We dont train that way
Yes
here this out

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhPvoTmROE4&t=747s

Somehow it worked for him, cause he prooved the Isrealis and French defeating them in sharpshooting. Also that Isreal guy's theory on how rain affects bullet's path is pure BS. I've read a former DEVGRU sniper's book and he says the same thing what this MARCO chap is saying.
Here's a quote from Mob VI by Justin K Sheffield
"If it is a day full of precipitation, like the air is charged with moisture, your round is actually going to fly flatter, faster and farther, it's the opposite of what you'd think. If you shoot in the rain, rain drops aren't actually hitting the bullet. There's a cone of air that moves through and thus is less affected by air with moister."

As for the open-leg positon, my take is that our guys dont practice this cause they are not used to actually shooting high calibre rounds, most of our snipers are chambered with 7.62×54mm or 7.62×51mm, not the .50 cal intensive training imparted in the NATO countries. Again I dont know....the straight in line position looks stupid to me but that MARCO sniper got great success by it.
 
I genuinely don’t think the Indian security mind can comprehend the US military let alone JSOC, the lengths they go to train are otherworldly by Indian standards, the skills these boys develop and enhance over decades whilst Indian units are spit shining their boots for parade duties or launching CASOs

there’s a reason JSOC veterans have almost nothing to say about India and its military- they are so irrelevant to them as far as capabilities and standards go they aren’t even worth mentioning.
bro we needed to raise Adhoc units like Gen Bakshi's TSD because even after decades our capability in joint training and intellegence driven special operations was so limited, support ke naam pe our guys only have experience calling RR in Kashmir what more do you expect, even to that, TSD was unfairly treated.

Imagine living in a country where you remain stagnant and crises hits, then you go running here and there, then a maverick guy has to raise an Adhoc unit and then you dispose it off.

It basically reflects ki tum ram bharose ho, our country is litteraly there without planning or anything. We are releying that some hero will save the day. That is what we've always been like
 
Easy

PAFF videos show the reality
I was reading through all your answers and hard agreeing... And then you dropped this. I won't even counter this pointless statement again. Sure, our state is sad but you've successfully been blackpilled to death. And we can't save you.
 
there's way more shit we know about these units than we should going by what you wrote above. Lemme drop an example - An Indian kid who has spent more than enough time surfing threads related to these units can tell the squadron and tasking of a CAG operator just by looking at his callsign.

Take USSOCOM, arguably the powerhouse SOF elements of the west and NATO, they run active public displays, official PR instagram/YT/LinkedIn pages, every Army SF, Ranger Regt unit has their own PR handles on YT/Insta.

JSOC doesn't have much of this presence but hey... there's always a book/movie/a video game or maybe leaked op footages

This is far from the secrecy you're talking about or maybe im wrong as this might be some grand scheme of things that I'm unaware of (pardon my -82 IQ indian arrogant perspective in that case)
Bud there's plenty of things we show of ourselves too, vo bas duniya ko dikhane layak nehi hai
 

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