Indian Special Forces

shade2 said:
Thanks for the detailed listing of gear and pictures, atleast now i can know what i'm looking at.

Let's hope they do a joint procurement of the Arad or any other AR15 carbine to replace the Tavors, like it's being done for the Predator
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They aren't gonna replace tevors they might add ars but tevors aren't going anywhere
 
I know this is just a show, based on the book that goes by the same name, but Paddy Mayne did say that
SAS were given Maroon berets in 2nd WW by the brass, and they rebelled, they reasoned the brass. This is why SAS did not disolve into the Parachute Regiment unlike our SF.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlmffutRQA

I belive Para Cdos initially had the maroon beret to blend in, cause Meghdoot Force was the Adhoc unit

According to the book, as a defence against identification, and execution under Hitler’s Commando Order, the SAS were ordered to wear black berets, rather than the distinctive red beret of airborne forces, and to identify themselves as tank corps troops.

The disguise was appropriate enough, for the role assigned to the SAS had departed, once again, from the script laid down by David Stirling: they were to act as forward reconnaissance, assault troops to weed out pockets of resistance, draw enemy fire, clear the roads and keep the tanks and ground troops rolling forward.

Then during a parade everyone save for Paddy had the maroon beret. This might just be a statement but it was an important one. Montgomery is actually known to have said this "men like these are not to be ordered to attack machine gun nests" [like ordinary soilders]. Why ? Because such he understood that men are witty, guile, strong and take matters in their own hands. Not everyone is like that and if you use them like cannon fodder, you loose the strategic battle in and of itself

In essence SF are meant to be different than the rest, they are not green army soilders, they dont do section attacks, and as an ex SAS put it they are also not the best of all regiments, but each man who joins the SAS is an embassader of his regiment. SAS is seen in the UK millitary now as an essential tool and it is an honor for regiments to send their men to try out for selection, knowing that everyone who applies wont get selected but if their guys do, they carry their parent unit's reputation with them.

Why the hell could we not develop that simple mindset
 
Jedi Operator said:
I know this is just a show, based on the book that goes by the same name, but Paddy Mayne did say that
SAS were given Maroon berets in 2nd WW by the brass, and they rebelled, they reasoned the brass. This is why SAS did not disolve into the Parachute Regiment unlike our SF.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLlmffutRQA

I belive Para Cdos initially had the maroon beret to blend in, cause Meghdoot Force was the Adhoc unit

According to the book, as a defence against identification, and execution under Hitler’s Commando Order, the SAS were ordered to wear black berets, rather than the distinctive red beret of airborne forces, and to identify themselves as tank corps troops.

The disguise was appropriate enough, for the role assigned to the SAS had departed, once again, from the script laid down by David Stirling: they were to act as forward reconnaissance, assault troops to weed out pockets of resistance, draw enemy fire, clear the roads and keep the tanks and ground troops rolling forward.

Then during a parade everyone save for Paddy had the maroon beret. This might just be a statement but it was an important one. Montgomery is actually known to have said this "men like these are not to be ordered to attack machine gun nests" [like ordinary soilders]. Why ? Because such he understood that men are witty, guile, strong and take matters in their own hands. Not everyone is like that and if you use them like cannon fodder, you loose the strategic battle in and of itself

In essence SF are meant to be different than the rest, they are not green army soilders, they dont do section attacks, and as an ex SAS put it they are also not the best of all regiments, but each man who joins the SAS is an embassader of his regiment. SAS is seen in the UK millitary now as an essential tool and it is an honor for regiments to send their men to try out for selection, knowing that everyone who applies wont get selected but if their guys do, they carry their parent unit's reputation with them.

Why the hell could we not develop that simple mindset
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Ps:David Stirling was called the phony major and he tried his best every time to discredit Payne as he was very jealous of Payne’s success and the respect he got from everyone.
 
Alby said:
Ps:David Stirling was called the phony major and he tried his best every time to discredit Payne as he was very jealous of Payne’s success and the respect he got from everyone.
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Yeah there's a book by that name too, was'nt sure if it's just the author's bais or the truth, but will give it a go next month
 
vampyrbladez said:
The MARCOS have chosen to indigenize most of their gear and standardize the same rather than the jigsaw clown show of Para SF and CTRL+C/CTRL+V of Israeli Tier 2 by Garud.

Key components indigenized :
  • X95 Flattop and Scope/Magnifier - PLR Systems Pvt Ltd/ Adani Defence and Aerospace 🇮🇳 (ToT from IWI 🇮🇱)
  • Masada Pistol - PLR Systems Pvt Ltd/ Adani Defence and Aerospace 🇮🇳 (ToT from IWI 🇮🇱)
  • PVS-31D Gen 3 NVG - Tata Advanced System Limited 🇮🇳 (ToT from L3 Harris 🇺🇸)
  • TASL Maritime High Cut Ballistic Helmet - Tata Advanced System Limited 🇮🇳
  • Tactical Vest Plate Carrier (III+) (SF Rig - Shooter's Cut) - Armasen Tactical 🇮🇳
  • UCP Camo Tactical - The Design Man 🇮🇳
Key components imported :
  • JPC 2.0 Multicam - Crye Precision 🇺🇸
  • V2 Tactical Comms Headset w/ Active Hearing Protection (COMTAC) - PolTact 🇺🇸
  • RF7850-SPR (SDR) - L3Harris 🇺🇸
The MARCOS have a separate office for modernization to keep track of the latest changes in the SF world and frequently cross-train with Tier 1/ 2 SF and trainers to sharpen their skills.


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TASL Maritime High Cut Ballistic Helmet


View: https://x.com/tataadvanced/status/1811257378836304280
 
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A Very good summary of the problem we have, this is why every thing from Op Pawan to Kargil to 26/11 is all spoken off as a systematic faliure, and deep down every organization of the government suffers from this same problem he said, the armed forces as we have discussed so far is not any different, they too are victims of this
 
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