Indian Special Forces

rkhanna said:
Do some R&D on what happened to the GRU Spetz units post the Berlin Wall falling - which was right after Afghanistan.

"Russia" already hurting in men and material post Astan, was dismantled - and the economic collapse and purge of pro soviet officer cadre took its Toll.

Also research Russian Orbat and effectiveness in both the Chechnyan conflicts.

The Russians eventually fell back to the one thing they had a superiority on - rocket forces.

They replaced skill with brute force.


A 1998-2005 Para Cdo was superior warfighter than any spetznas soldier.


Ironically the ONE thing we had going for us untill the mid 2000s was our combat experience. No longer can claim that with expect the Chinese
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I believe this is coming from the inherent 'Indian' bias. I have been following the SF scene since the last 15 years. Have written consistently on this topic. Sure Post Soviet..the Russian forces were at their worst. However, despite limited resources the Russian SFs gave their best. The fought major conflicts in Dagestan and Chechanya. Para SFs post Kargil were great but calling them superior to Spetsnaz is a 'Joke'.
 
Indradeep Roy said:
I believe this is coming from the inherent 'Indian' bias. I have been following the SF scene since the last 15 years. Have written consistently on this topic. Sure Post Soviet..the Russian forces were at their worst. However, despite limited resources the Russian SFs gave their best. The fought major conflicts in Dagestan and Chechanya. Para SFs post Kargil were great but calling them superior to Spetsnaz is a 'Joke'.
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I would agree on the fact that Spetsnaz in skills were never ever below Para SF.

Even in their worst periods their AK handling was way superior than any Indian Unit could show.

Even US veterans have trained under ex spetsnaz and only praised them.

Maybe in tactics used and decision making Spetsnaz could be questioned but again who are we to question when our own NSG op is questioned by goras.
 
rkhanna said:
Do some R&D on what happened to the GRU Spetz units post the Berlin Wall falling - which was right after Afghanistan.

"Russia" already hurting in men and material post Astan, was dismantled - and the economic collapse and purge of pro soviet officer cadre took its Toll.

Also research Russian Orbat and effectiveness in both the Chechnyan conflicts.

The Russians eventually fell back to the one thing they had a superiority on - rocket forces.

They replaced skill with brute force.


A 1998-2005 Para Cdo was superior warfighter than any spetznas soldier.


Ironically the ONE thing we had going for us untill the mid 2000s was our combat experience. No longer can claim that with expect the Chinese
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It’s funny cuz our KD ratio was far higher than theirs during this era.
 
COLDHEARTED AVIATOR said:
But are u talking of an era of chechen war and comparing poor paki punjabi muslims with fighters like chechen?
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Chechens are also poor. Thinking one fighter is superior is why Indians are in a backward state. If punjabi poor muslims then what does that say of indians who have been getting their asses handed to them by these paki punjabis in 2024
 
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