Indian Special Forces

[Airborne22]

Even the elite units use these outdated and allegedly unreliable stuff.

OFB reliability
definitely not sarcasm

 

[Alby]

Serbian AKs, Part 6: Morana, an Ambitious AK Upgrade Program

In Part 1 of this article, I talked about the prototypes of Yugoslav AKs, in Part 2 we dived into the history of M70 rifles with milled receivers, Part 3 was dedicated to the most common Zastava M70, Part 4 went over rifles that Zastava developed during the collapse of Yugoslavia, Part 5 was...

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Instead of going for mediocre Fab upgrades our SF and NSG should buy some these serbian Ak upgrade kits for trial.You will get an upgraded Ak without any weight gain.

 

[Screambowl]

They should but the question is would they? I have essentially lost all hope in the military.

If they don't then they can't retain the territory in hostile urban environment. And every one knows Para SF s not trained to IDF level in that, no matter whatever kits they procure.

 

[hkdas]

View: https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1839258130360012882?t=10TnD0R_bECb9IAIp8Pi7A&s=19

 

[Airborne22]

Serbian AKs, Part 6: Morana, an Ambitious AK Upgrade Program

In Part 1 of this article, I talked about the prototypes of Yugoslav AKs, in Part 2 we dived into the history of M70 rifles with milled receivers, Part 3 was dedicated to the most common Zastava M70, Part 4 went over rifles that Zastava developed during the collapse of Yugoslavia, Part 5 was...

www.thefirearmblog.com

Instead of going for mediocre Fab upgrades our SF and NSG should buy some these serbian Ak upgrade kits for trial.You will get an upgraded Ak without any weight gain.

SSSD looks much better than this and the boys using them seem happy. That marco spec ak 103 is the best you'll get in India imho.

 

[Airborne22]

View: https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1839258130360012882?t=10TnD0R_bECb9IAIp8Pi7A&s=19

In the marco and OG para units... the senior guys of the unit always consider the ones with 4-5 years of active service ones for actual leadership positions within the units as it takes them that much amount of time to get acquainted with combat procedures, small team tactics, their primary secondary and tertiary skills and combat exposure.

 

[Jedi Operator]

View: https://x.com/mountain_rats/status/1839258130360012882?t=10TnD0R_bECb9IAIp8Pi7A&s=19

that used to be the case...back then when 8-6 months CD course followed by 10-12 months MARCOS course
Now the actual selection has been shortened to 7-8 months and the probation period (not selection...probation otherwise like it happens in SEALs, SAS etc) is 6 months...so total it will take 1 year for a MARCO to be made combat ready

Selection is different, they'd have 2-3 months of diving, land and continuation training....probation is kinda like being in unit and performing good on exercises, training deployments, not actuall combat but other stuff .....all of this was said by Cdr Vijay Rawat on one of his interviews

 

[hkdas]

View: https://youtu.be/0-KxtVKCnHM?si=JlhAXh6Vd78v11B-

 

[Jedi Operator]

In the marco and OG para units... the senior guys of the unit always consider the ones with 4-5 years of active service ones for actual leadership positions within the units as it takes them that much amount of time to get acquainted with combat procedures, small team tactics, their primary secondary and tertiary skills and combat exposure.

true that...it will still take 2-3 years and atleast 1 Kashmir deployment comes in between for a new MARCO...for him to be considered capable of understanding what it means to be an operator. For officers to be prahar commanders, like in the SEAL Teams to be squad or platoon commanders it takes 4-5 years, but for enlisted anywhere upto 6-7 years. Also by the time they'd be Lt Cdrs they'd still have some role in combat like Kashmir, anti piracy etc but they'd slowly start moving to more administrative tasks
Also unlike sailors, officers are not career operators at MARCOS, SEAL Teams or any such naval SOF unit....Officers have a billet, which means 2-3 years at a MARCO team then in order to be further promoted they'd have to do their postgraduation courses, serve as XOs, COs of warships...and all this is still while they're lieutenants which is the first six years of their service. So that is why more is expected out of them in training cause, every time they return from regular navy to their position, they'd be attached to a different prahar (team) and have to proove themselves. I mean no doubt so many officers just take the initiative in all those ops we saw in Kashmir with all those gallantry medals, because the sailors who are there forever once they were marooned in would not tolerate if an officer comming for a billet is not working hard enough to match their standards

 

[hkdas]

that used to be the case...back then when 8-6 months CD course followed by 10-12 months MARCOS course
Now the actual selection has been shortened to 7-8 months and the probation period (not selection...probation otherwise like it happens in SEALs, SAS etc) is 6 months...so total it will take 1 year for a MARCO to be made combat ready

Selection is different, they'd have 2-3 months of diving, land and continuation training....probation is kinda like being in unit and performing good on exercises, training deployments, not actuall combat but other stuff .....all of this was said by Cdr Vijay Rawat on one of his interviews

Can u share the interview video?
AFAIK, Marcos probation is 3 months, just like in para SF.

 

[Jedi Operator]

Can u share the interview video?
AFAIK, Marcos probation is 3 months, just like in para SF.

Dont recall konsa wala tha...milega toh dal dunga yahan pe bro tujhe tag karke
And nehi bhai.....MARCOS dont have a probation like in Paras, only in Indian Army SF do they call their selection as a probation...duniya mei sari jagha probation means what it's meaning is "a trial period for new guys to evaluate their fit for a role and company culture." Now Para SF probation happens in their battalion only, they do not have a selection center for all battalions...which is fair I mean that is their uniqueness I guess.

Koi bhi Cdr Rawat ka interview utha le, he says the selection course for MARCOS is 1 month Build up phase, 2-3 months Combat diving, similarly land phase, by end of which you have Hell Week and then similar duration is Special Weapons & Tactics phase, similar to a continuation training

 

[Noob]

All right everyone Exams are here so I will go into reading mode only popping up here and there to keep up with the thread cya guys after exams hopefully we get good pics in this time period so I can be High on hopium

 

[Baseplate]

All right everyone Exams are here so I will go into reading mode only popping up here and there to keep up with the thread cya guys after exams hopefully we get good pics in this time period so I can be High on hopium

Sucker mine ended today

Best of luck

 

[Arad Operator]

atleast 1 Kashmir deployment

Not all Navy boiz go for Kashmir Tenure though, only west sends a detachment to North!

 

[hkdas]

View: https://youtu.be/0-KxtVKCnHM?si=z-x-zUiUVBtxJsD7

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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PLA drip

Bro Japanese had enormous money and their rifle costs a lot.But on the otherhand Chinese were literally a peasant army until late 90s and their development is astonishing.They are emphasising quality over quantity offlate.
Also they dont have influence or cooperation with Nato so their development is wortg applause.Thats why i posts the pics of PLA sometimes.

IAS,IPS and IA Officers have degraded beyond repair.

Thankfully they have exposed themselves in podcasts and reels for few smarter ones to realise which direction are we heading in.

 

[Jedi Operator]

Not all Navy boiz go for Kashmir Tenure though, only west sends a detachment to North!

You mean only MARCOS West that is Abhimanyu sends a detachment to North?
Not true....Capt Varun Singh was attached from East Coast, so was Lt Cdr Mrityunjay Kumar, look at the citations, unit is clearly mentioned. Also the interview Lt Cdr Bijay Nair had with MARCO Joginder Singh, he clearly mentioned that they went from Vishakapatnam to J/K....he also said that all MARCOS have to go to Kashmir atleast once...I can understand that this might not have been the case back in 1990s because many officers rose to administrative ranks like Cdr Rawat never served...others who were in IPKF never got to serve too, but most sailors did, after 1996 that is. Post that everyone has