Indian Special Forces

[samsaptaka]

He is a passionate old man who has a lot of stories to tell that are a goldmine for us. However, I don't like the host of roger that with nkc. Bande ko har jaga ghuma fira ke olq ghusana hai ya connect karna haixD

Are you referring to Col Thapa or Hellfire, also can anyone provide the link to Hellfire's rant on SG getting publicity

 

[Noob]

The problem with Indian Army is its regimentation.

As soon as young officers come they are taught about unit history and culture.

Then they are taught to be biased for your own regtt and unit.

When they grow old and in rank they do thigs which suit their regtt.

Like for example a COAS of Arty gives priority to Arty..from Armoured to Armoured etc.

This can also be seen in the fauji kids who get triggered for no reason at all…its the same upbringing they get at home that our unit is the best.

Then the second enemy of Army is the non serious officer class.

Be honest with me here..how many podcasts have you seen where a officer has shown tremendous intellect and knowledge?

Its because of comfort..There is no major threat hence its a picnic career for most..had we been in Israels position we would have seen a difference.

Lastly, the standards have dropped.

When my father joined the Army in 70s he was paid a little higher than IAS and had too much more respect than a IAS.

People didnt have so many options for a career hence the best brains went to Army.

Today, 90% of SF probees wont even know the name of all the equipment a SF uses.

They believe in show!

Look at the Generals today..do you think they can stand in a line with Manekshaw,Sunderjee and Cariappa or Thimaya!

Agreed to almost all the points hence I put forward the point of revamping all the cources before the standards are gone it worked in that era won't in the new era definitely not need a total revamping teach the guys about actual guns get armourer for the unit who is well knowledge in this field and see how units armoury goes from 2007 to 2024 we will start seeing good and custom builds according to our needs we lack this badly aabhi to "oo we got ak hmm what can we do let's give out a tender to upgrade it and give it to yahoodis cause fuck the competition and quality need to keep yahoodis happy even if it comes with substandard gear (fuck fab mods). In the end we all know kuch ni hona Jana let's chill and enjoy what we can.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Everyone is free to hate anyone or like anyone.

I myself am not a fan of Major Jacob and only respect him for his service and not his opinions.

But, i hope you know the difference between serving in Kashmir and serving in North East.

Let me give you a example…if you catch a Pistol in North wast on a search you will get COAS Citation..for the same to be earned in kashmir you would need multiple Aks and decent ammo.

Secondly,North East militants are 10 times better trained than Kashmiri terrorists.

Thirdly,Major Sahini and Major Jacob both were a part of SG.

I dont see how Major Jacob is too superior to Maj Sahini that my comparison has made untouchable Major Jacob a SC/ST now from his General class.

I disagree with the second point. Respectfully

 

[Zoid Raptor]

O paaji kabhi hans bhi liya karo
Ye dekho 10 para sf

Not the best gear given PA and SSG in particular gets priority in funding and procurement but that's some uniformity Paras should aspire for

 

[Mr.Evil]

O paaji kabhi hans bhi liya karo
Ye dekho 10 para sf

Friendly Fire

 

[Jedi Operator]

The problem with Indian Army is its regimentation.

As soon as young officers come they are taught about unit history and culture.

Then they are taught to be biased for your own regtt and unit.

When they grow old and in rank they do thigs which suit their regtt.

Like for example a COAS of Arty gives priority to Arty..from Armoured to Armoured etc.

This can also be seen in the fauji kids who get triggered for no reason at all…its the same upbringing they get at home that our unit is the best.

Then the second enemy of Army is the non serious officer class.

Be honest with me here..how many podcasts have you seen where a officer has shown tremendous intellect and knowledge?

Its because of comfort..There is no major threat hence its a picnic career for most..had we been in Israels position we would have seen a difference.

Lastly, the standards have dropped.

When my father joined the Army in 70s he was paid a little higher than IAS and had too much more respect than a IAS.

People didnt have so many options for a career hence the best brains went to Army.

Today, 90% of SF probees wont even know the name of all the equipment a SF uses.

They believe in show!

Look at the Generals today..do you think they can stand in a line with Manekshaw,Sunderjee and Cariappa or Thimaya!

Yaaar another thing is when these young kiddos get access to go to facilities like INS Abhimanyu or GRTC or because their parents served in SF. They end up attaching so much unnecessary emotion to the military, which they’ve never even served in. And why? Because they have nothing else going on in their lives. Let me know what this whole "elite predators" or "mountain rats" thing would be without that channel to give them an identity.

 

[Jedi Operator]

This explains it all

 

[rkhanna]

This explains it all

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How dare a Colonel speak negatively. Does he have the experience of a General in knowing what Strategy means or the larger picture of National Security affairs?

 

[IWIarad11]

People both in forces and outside can't handle being called out here in India plays on their ego alot, was talking to someone recently got to know ego runs deep in force so ofc you can't call them out for their pathetic standards, I am being generous while calling the standards just pathetic. No first world military takes us seriously talk to any green berret who has toured India on any of the excercises you see them laugh on our standards and our tactics they say good lads who fight hard but live in the 90s. It's the harsh truth many of the Indians don't wanna digest,I didn't wanna speak on this matter at this moment but it came out so I am giving my take. (We are happy seeing binods in bloody 2024 that shows us our conditions and contrary to popular belief no we didn't have binos in good number never ever have we had those in good numbers the secret stash dosent exist stop going on so much copium yes some units has had some in mid 2010s but just handful of numbers) the parachute lobby has done more harm than good took us years just to have a indoor freefall facility hoping for millions of changes in the future and trying to stay positive vese on side note Gearsmith Tshirts are amazing never tried their combat pants so can't vouch for those maybe someone else can.

This explains it all

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Wake up everyday and get frustrated with every single thing around. That's our life bois.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Wake up everyday and get frustrated with every single thing around. That's our life bois.

Na Prthiviraj ne serious lia…na aj k Gangu ram teli ne..!!

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I disagree with the second point. Respectfully

They are better trained bro.

North eastern millitants dont consider them a militant ..they think they are an Army.

They have ranks and even go for courses in Myanmar where they are trained by chinese and burmese.

They have leave system.

Morally they are even better than most armies as they dont touch women and children.

Ask any Army man he will rate them above Kashmiri or Paki terrorists.

 

[rkhanna]

They are better trained bro.

North eastern millitants dont consider them a militant ..they think they are an Army.

They have ranks and even go for courses in Myanmar where they are trained by chinese and burmese.

They have leave system.

Morally they are even better than most armies ss they dont touch women and children.

Ask any Army man he will rate them above Kashmiri or Paki terrorists.

They have more operational discipline and overall tactical awareness as well. Most of the those militants were born in the bush and spent their childhoods hunting with sticks - their survival skills are not ideological its part of their habitat.

 

[IWIarad11]

They are better trained bro.

North eastern millitants dont consider them a militant ..they think they are an Army.

They have ranks and even go for courses in Myanmar where they are trained by chinese and burmese.

They have leave system.

Morally they are even better than most armies as they dont touch women and children.

Ask any Army man he will rate them above Kashmiri or Paki terrorists.

I agree with most but maybe not the family part. Why did they ambush and kill Col Viplav's family?

P.S. The same militants were killed by Major Dig Rawat, KC

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I agree with most but maybe not the family part. Why did they ambush and kill Col Viplav's family?

P.S. The same militants were killed by Major Dig Rawat, KC

I am not aware of this incident..please share.

 

[IWIarad11]

I am not aware of this incident..please share.

Col Viplav Tripathi, who was a CO of a AR regiment was traveling in his convoy with his kid and wife. PLA cadres ambushed from both sides, killed everyone. It was brutal.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Col Viplav Tripathi, who was a CO of a AR regiment was traveling in his convoy with his kid and wife. PLA cadres ambushed from both sides, killed everyone. It was brutal.

Did they know women and chidren were there in the convoy?

 

[Blademaster]

I agree with most but maybe not the family part. Why did they ambush and kill Col Viplav's family?

P.S. The same militants were killed by Major Dig Rawat, KC

Please tell me how we avenged the killing of Col Viplav's family? I have no pity, mercy or any sympathies for these PLA cadres or Maoists. They need to be wiped off the earth without delay or mercy.

 

[Nightshade1992]

They have more operational discipline and overall tactical awareness as well. Most of the those militants were born in the bush and spent their childhoods hunting with sticks - their survival skills are not ideological its part of their habitat.

This is why Major Sahani often preferred to have North Eastern operators in his team. Nearly 60% of his patrol and strike group comprised individuals from that region. Their upbringing in the local terrain gave them an unmatched awareness, enabling them to avoid numerous IEDs during his tenure. These operators had an almost instinctive sense of the land, far surpassing their counterparts from the northern regions.

 

[IWIarad11]

Did they know women and chidren were there in the convoy?

Guess so. Their intel is on point usually

 

[IWIarad11]

Please tell me how we avenged the killing of Col Viplav's family? I have no pity, mercy or any sympathies for these PLA cadres or Maoists. They need to be wiped off the earth without delay or mercy.

Not sure entirely but guess 21 para took the revenge. Kaise lia uske liye toh Maj Rawat se puchna padega.