Indian Special Forces

[abingdonboy]

Its not the job of Para SF to do these operations.

They dont have the training,they dont have the equipment and its not the job of a Army SF to do Hostage rescue.

What is the NSG doing in a place like Kolkata where the state govt is in bed with the bad elements..what kind of a threat do Bengalis have?

We see Urban ops in and around Srinagar on a daily basis including hostage situations.

Why is so much money spent on NSG if they are supposed to just sit in their base and do a bi annual exercise?

We have all kinds of resources and zero brain.


And you are right..members of this forum will not be silent if soldiers are treated like cannon fodder..and i will be the first to criticise.

I’ve told you this before- IA/RR owns the battlefield in JK, NSG cannot be brought in without an official sanction from IA

I’ve heard from quite a few that the IA still hasn’t gotten over NSG being used in pathankot and ‘their boys’ including paras being used merely as force protection assets in a static guard position to protect the IAF’s hardware

Asking IA to have the objectivity to call upon NSG is too much to expect for these petty egomaniacs- it is effectively seen as weakness to ask for another unit’s assistance

 

[abingdonboy]

Why does IA pay no attention to PPE? Why are their SF a joke? Why are they not able to procure even 10% of their requirements in category? Why do they scramble around for ad-hoc solutions constantly?


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View: https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/1862171892930507156?s=46

These are features and not a bug- these chaps see service like many other Indians see a govt job. The only real outrage I’ve seen from IA and their veterans is when their benefits and perks are threatened- plenty of outrage over cantonments going and all that OROP drama

Golf courses and polo fields>warfighting

 

[abingdonboy]

I think the more important question here is that why is your main “Special Force” not competent enough to do a hostage rescue mission?

To be fair most (all?) tier 2 US SOFs do not regularly train in HR and it’s not in their mission profile- this is why they created CIFs inside the SFGs. Basically 1 company of experienced green berets that would be given specific training (and equipment)for HR, Direct action etc etc, they’d also regularly work to support tier 1 units

India has no concept of specialisation

 

[Jedi Operator]

They are battle hardened.

they have experience fighting on both sides

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

they have experience fighting on both sides

I just put that for those who dont look at foreign SF and think that only Indian SF sees blood.

This was the politest way of saying that.

 

[Baseplate]

Arise the slayer of adversaries, from the heart of LML.

ASMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

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that wierd ass stock makes it look ugly , looks like a wire stock

A basic telescopic stock will make it look way better

 

[randombully]

that wierd ass stock makes it look ugly , looks like a wire stock

A basic telescopic stock will make it look way better
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That asmi stocks seems more cheaper and lighter, than this basic telescopic stock.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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Yes they have a fking decommissioned civilian aircraft to practice offensive as well as anti hijack ops

Delhi mein restaurant khule he aiyse aircrafts me.

Plus these are old design…engineering changes.

They do on live aircraft time to time…have seen them soo many times at airport.

 

[TAVOUR 21]

Delhi mein restaurant khule he aiyse aircrafts me.

Plus these are old design…engineering changes.

They do on live aircraft time to time…have seen them soo many times at airport.

Have you met any Skymarshal?

 

[Bleh]

Iraqi SOF
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All 2 dozen of them.
Maybe we should cut down the size?.. Focus on getting 1000 of them to top notch, rest to medium standards as we can afford to.

 

[Yodha]

Why does IA pay no attention to PPE? Why are their SF a joke? Why are they not able to procure even 10% of their requirements in category? Why do they scramble around for ad-hoc solutions constantly?


View: https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/1863206928383385786?s=46


View: https://x.com/ksingh_1469/status/1862171892930507156?s=46

These are features and not a bug- these chaps see service like many other Indians see a govt job. The only real outrage I’ve seen from IA and their veterans is when their benefits and perks are threatened- plenty of outrage over cantonments going and all that OROP drama

Golf courses and polo fields>warfighting

About that LUH thing. It's not fully cleared for procurement.

There are issues with the main rotor design

1) Low performance in recovery of rotor rpm in autorotation. That can possibly kill the aircrew during an actual engine failure.

2) The AFCS is not fully integrated yet.

Improvements are underway.

And that lease thing, I don't vote in favour too. Instead, we could have had emergency procurement of AS350 in tens of numbers.

You cannot say the same for LCH. It has been ordered in adequate no.s and in future the quantity will further go up.

 

[randombully]

All 2 dozen of them.
Maybe we should cut down the size?.. Focus on getting 1000 of them to top notch, rest to medium standards as we can afford to.

I suggest 5000, we should be able to bring atleast this much to top notch.
Rest all para sf's could be our version of US rangers I.E. elite infantry.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Have you met any Skymarshal?

Many times…

Shaken hands and chatted.

Rest is all confidential i cant share but i have a good exposure of meeting them.

 

[TAVOUR 21]

 

[Noob]

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Naa I did not just see a vbss guy in HCBC and a Stirling wtf is this timeline?

About that LUH thing. It's not fully cleared for procurement.

There are issues with the main rotor design

1) Low performance in recovery of rotor rpm in autorotation. That can possibly kill the aircrew during an actual engine failure.

2) The AFCS is not fully integrated yet.

Improvements are underway.

And that lease thing, I don't vote in favour too. Instead, we could have had emergency procurement of AS350 in tens of numbers.

You cannot say the same for LCH. It has been ordered in adequate no.s and in future the quantity will further go up.

Any plans for a LUH based killer egg for Indian SOF in near future?

 

[Noob]

And they don’t even prepare for an annual exercise, at least to look good FFS.
Another thing noticeable is that US guy is running with head up and with good situational awareness while our “Jawan” is running like Bhag bhag DK Bose

I am sorry to inform you but they do prepare for this excercise for a month in advance atleast they did so last year so this is after they put in little efforts otherwise you might not be ready to see what you will see

 

[VictorDelta4]

Any plans for a LUH based killer egg for Indian SOF in near future?

Post in thread 'HAL LUH/LOH'

Jul 9, 2024

How feasible is the idea of a desi CAS/Recce variant of the LUH similar to the OH 58 Kiowa? I recall seeing an unmanned version of LUH in some photo from the CATS team.
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[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I’ve told you this before- IA/RR owns the battlefield in JK, NSG cannot be brought in without an official sanction from IA

I’ve heard from quite a few that the IA still hasn’t gotten over NSG being used in pathankot and ‘their boys’ including paras being used merely as force protection assets in a static guard position to protect the IAF’s hardware

Asking IA to have the objectivity to call upon NSG is too much to expect for these petty egomaniacs- it is effectively seen as weakness to ask for another unit’s assistance

1.Govt cant keep paying 25-30 lacs a month to repair the houses Army blows up…NSG should be used..Why the hell they are there if they cannot do Urban ops which is their forte?

2.Army and Para SF acting offended shouldnt be a concern…Its the job of NSG and should be done and NSG are all Army only.

3.If Army sees calling NSG weak it should also feel so calling the Para SF also.

And Para SF is having a really bad outing since 2021 so its better NSG shared the burden along with Marcos.

 

[Bleh]

I suggest 5000, we should be able to bring atleast this much to top notch.
Rest all para sf's could be our version of US rangers I.E. elite infantry.

They shadi are 5000ish AFAIK & at barely US Rangers class

 

[randombully]

They shadi are 5000ish AFAIK & at barely US Rangers class

Aren't they putting all para regiments into Para sf?