Indian Special Forces

[Unknowncommando]

 

[Hydra7.62]

Could you be more specific about casualties suffered under current COAS.

If you can’t then …..shut up.

Here you go sir,

1. October 11, 2021 – Poonch District
https://www.opindia.com/2021/10/5-i...ists-loc-infiltration/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

2. August 11, 2022 – Rajouri District
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...own-1986543-2022-08-11?utm_source=chatgpt.com

3. September 13-19, 2023 – Anantnag District
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Anantnag_encounter?utm_source=chatgpt.com

4.July 8, 2024 – Kathua District
https://theprint.in/india/jco-among...hua-5-injured/2166042/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

5. If u want visual proof, visit r/CombatFootage on reddit search for bodycam footage of PAFF. Watch it at your own risk and consideration. I don't want to attach the footage here, for obvious resons.



The current COAS was VCOAS and before that, he was General Officer Commanding in chief (GOC-in-C) of Northern Command.
He was in office from Feb 2022 to Feb 2024 as a GOC-in-C of NC.

He was responsible for overseeing operations in J&K, LoC and LAC in northern sector.

 

[Jedi Operator]

5. If u want visual proof, visit r/CombatFootage on reddit search for bodycam footage of PAFF. Watch it at your own risk and consideration. I don't want to attach the footage here, for obvious resons.

I hope that's not the one elite predators had shared cause that was Syrian civil war footage

 

[Hydra7.62]

I hope that's not the one elite predators had shared cause that was Syrian civil war footage

I am referring to one with 2.8k upvotes.

 

[Hari Sud]

That was in…

1997
1999
Mid 2010s and then surgical strikes

Apart from that there have been raids and killings of single digits.

These guys are talking about recent ops ie last 3 years and poor performance of Indian army.

Terrorists have upper hand due to Thermal sights being brought from left overs in Afghanistan…Meanwhile we loose the cream of the crop in poorly planned ops.

25 Terrorists and planners were killed in Pakistan last year. Who else will kill them.

 

[shade2]

25 Terrorists and planners were killed in Pakistan last year. Who else will kill them.

 

[username unkown]

That was in…

1997
1999
Mid 2010s and then surgical strikes

Apart from that there have been raids and killings of single digits.

These guys are talking about recent ops ie last 3 years and poor performance of Indian army.

Terrorists have upper hand due to Thermal sights being brought from left overs in Afghanistan…Meanwhile we loose the cream of the crop in poorly planned ops.

Not just thermals it is also result of better communication and human intel on trts side

 

[JConline]

25 Terrorists and planners were killed in Pakistan last year. Who else will kill them.

You Sir, demanded specific figures and sources on the what was said by another member. I'd like to request you to back up your claim with specific sources and figures about who was killed, where and by whom.

Could you be more specific about casualties suffered under current COAS.

If you can’t then …..shut up.

And might I add Sir, "If you can't then .....shut up" reeks of your being subscribed to the very ideas of certain high ranking personnel in the Indian Army that has resulted in Para(SF) becoming what is essentially an elite infantry at this point. I'm not sure what your reasons are behind your subscription to such ideas, but most of us here are fairly well informed citizens, who are concerned about the rather shabby state our Army is in. I understand that this last sentence might irk your sense of patriotism but what I'm saying is the objective truth. "Chal raha hai toh chalne do" just isn't good enough anymore. Our adversaries are arming themselves to the teeth, starting right from the bottom. Us, on the other hand are trying to build on rather shaky pillars.

 

[vampyrbladez]

7 Para SF

Establishment 22

 

[KumaoniReborn]

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What kind of a nation are we? Something that died in the mid 90s couldn't be rectified ever again. No specialized equipment, no primary intel gathering capacity, no specialized training. Only thing left in the SF is the unquestioned ability to grow long beards ig.

No foresight going forward too. Heck even infantry has new weapons and sights rn. But what would one do even if you give new stuff. Grip the mag when there's a vertical foregrip already. No nightfighting capability because only 2 in the squad have proper nvgs. Like which other SF uses monoculars in 2024? And the moment we see a single piece of PVS 31s in an expo, we jerk off like crazy. Training ke naam pe sirf pitthoo leke lamba douro bass. Counter ambush, cqb, kuch nahi karna. Har baar international exercise meh jake beizzati karwana.

No serious nation functions like this. Only josh is keeping this machinery running. But for long?

There is hardly any difference between indian infantry and indian special forces.

If anything border units are performing far better than both RR and Paras in the insurgency right now

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Could you be more specific about casualties suffered under current COAS.

If you can’t then …..shut up.

The current COAS had a month in which 15 soldiers were killed. You know what causality rate that is? The exact same causality rate of the 90s Kashmir where 10,000 terrorists once operated. And only 50 terrorists managed to do this.

 

[Yuyutsu]

7 Para SF

If the government provided an annual personal purchase allowance for frontline and special forces personnel, would soldiers choose modern equipment, or would we still see World War II gear in use?

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Sir, with all due respect the IA suffered repeated ambushes between early 2023 to mid 2024. Multiple mutilations included. Some avenged, some not.

None were avenged. Absolutely zero of the beheadings were avenged.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

That was in…

1997
1999
Mid 2010s and then surgical strikes

Apart from that there have been raids and killings of single digits.

These guys are talking about recent ops ie last 3 years and poor performance of Indian army.

Terrorists have upper hand due to Thermal sights being brought from left overs in Afghanistan…Meanwhile we loose the cream of the crop in poorly planned ops.

The event he’s talking about happened in the mid 80s

View: https://x.com/jhalazalimsingh/status/1836470301376319781?s=46

 

[Corvus Splendens]

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To rapidly clear a open area with a 4 man team, why not 2 point men (doubling as entry men), 1 backup (doubling as breacher), and 1 rear guard.

See 2 point men, 1 support behind and 1 rear guard. This is how you clear open areas fast. None of the stacking up buddy pair nonsense.


And when stacking up makes sense, you have this briefcase guy with nobody covering his six. He can't react fast enough to any threats behind him while double carrying a case and his smg.

 

[vampyrbladez]

If the government provided an annual personal purchase allowance for frontline and special forces personnel, would soldiers choose modern equipment, or would we still see World War II gear in use?

Wait for more 'emergency procurement' in the coming days.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

There is hardly any difference between indian infantry and indian special forces.

If anything border units are performing far better than both RR and Paras in the insurgency right now

Discipline and work ethics dont solve the problem which Innovation,Creativity and Brilliance can.

Army needs to really hire right people.

Para SF is a good 15 years behind Western SF and atleast 8 years behind Western Infantry.

NSG is also not upto western standards…They look better trained than 26/11 but they are still far behind.

After 26/11 Israelis was complaining about Mumbai police and NSG not being well trained and making fun of them..i dont see how they wont now.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

The event he’s talking about happened in the mid 80s

View: https://x.com/jhalazalimsingh/status/1836470301376319781?s=46

This flag…

Old generation brilliance with WW2 training standards.

Dont see this happening today.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

If the government provided an annual personal purchase allowance for frontline and special forces personnel, would soldiers choose modern equipment, or would we still see World War II gear in use?

Good question..

Given the attitude and education of the men and officers i would guess they might save the money for retirement.

 

[hunfrnc]

You think anybody names and get away with your third rate information and call it truth. You should be ashamed

See, "sir", this is the problem with the army, you think you can shut anybody and everybody into submission.
Just see the pathetic state the army is in, rifle without optics, no PPE, 0 night fighting capability, a "SF" as good super infantry, ww2 type helmets.. the list of omissions and commissions is endless, & a big party of it is due to these good for nothing jernails.
we respect our soldiers, but that doesn't mean they are above criticism.