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Sadly even today the 20+ year gap between our SOF and the best of NATO still remains. the MAIN difference is that 20 years ago the Chinese and even the Russians were behind us. Now most militaries have lapped us - Eastern Europe, LATAM, SEA

our ego's only allow our world view to be Bangla, Pak, Lanka and Nepal - so we still the GOAT
Thatswhy we are looking for ceasefire on LOC…had we spent on upgrading we could be in a better position to dominate LOC by placing cameras like you suggest or putting more well trained long range snipers or using the night to dominate our fights.

But even the chief knows how capable we are..thatswhy the news comes that we are not looking to escalate even when Taliban is hammering on the west.
 
Thatswhy we are looking for ceasefire on LOC…had we spent on upgrading we could be in a better position to dominate LOC by placing cameras like you suggest or putting more well trained long range snipers or using the night to dominate our fights.

But even the chief knows how capable we are..thatswhy the news comes that we are not looking to escalate even when Taliban is hammering on the west.

Any "Hammering" Will come only before the Next Election Cycle. No political gains to hammer away when election has been won
 
Not shocking, Some Police units have Barret Snipers also.
As far as I know, JKP and some NE state Police has Western Sniper Guns
I'm not shocked by the fact that police units use sniper rifles/marksman rifles. I'm just interested in knowing which police commando unit uses Sako snipers. I myself am trained on a steyr ssg69 rifle in use with JKP.
 
Sadly even today the 20+ year gap between our SOF and the best of NATO still remains. the MAIN difference is that 20 years ago the Chinese and even the Russians were behind us. Now most militaries have lapped us - Eastern Europe, LATAM, SEA

our ego's only allow our world view to be Bangla, Pak, Lanka and Nepal - so we still the GOAT
Disagree that the Russians were 'behind' us. The Spetsnaz have been traditionally under equipped compared to NATO elites. But never at the level of India. It may be true in case of the PLA...they didn't even have any dedicated SFs until the 90s. But they narrowed the gap by 2010. Back in the day they had a police 'commando' unit 'Snow Leopard ' that used to consistently humiliate foreign SFs in SWAT exercises.
 
Disagree that the Russians were 'behind' us. The Spetsnaz have been traditionally under equipped compared to NATO elites. But never at the level of India. It may be true in case of the PLA...they didn't even have any dedicated SFs until the 90s. But they narrowed the gap by 2010. Back in the day they had a police 'commando' unit 'Snow Leopard ' that used to consistently humiliate foreign SFs in SWAT exercises.
Do some R&D on what happened to the GRU Spetz units post the Berlin Wall falling - which was right after Afghanistan.

"Russia" already hurting in men and material post Astan, was dismantled - and the economic collapse and purge of pro soviet officer cadre took its Toll.

Also research Russian Orbat and effectiveness in both the Chechnyan conflicts.

The Russians eventually fell back to the one thing they had a superiority on - rocket forces.

They replaced skill with brute force.


A 1998-2005 Para Cdo was superior warfighter than any spetznas soldier.


Ironically the ONE thing we had going for us untill the mid 2000s was our combat experience. No longer can claim that with expect the Chinese
 
Do some R&D on what happened to the GRU Spetz units post the Berlin Wall falling - which was right after Afghanistan.

"Russia" already hurting in men and material post Astan, was dismantled - and the economic collapse and purge of pro soviet officer cadre took its Toll.

Also research Russian Orbat and effectiveness in both the Chechnyan conflicts.

The Russians eventually fell back to the one thing they had a superiority on - rocket forces.

They replaced skill with brute force.


A 1998-2005 Para Cdo was superior warfighter than any spetznas soldier.


Ironically the ONE thing we had going for us untill the mid 2000s was our combat experience. No longer can claim that with expect the Chinese
Sir whats the story of Malaysians behind ahead of us?

They seem they are like 10-15 years ahead like europeans.
 
Sir whats the story of Malaysians behind ahead of us?

They seem they are like 10-15 years ahead like europeans.

IMO SEA upskilled through the 2000s together. For the following reasons

1. More assertive china
2. Uptick in armed rebellions across the major of this region + piracy
3. Higher GDP per capital - translates to higher budgets with smaller military
4. Way more crosstraining with the Aussies / Americans post the armed conflicts that racked this region in the 2000s -
5. This is my theory only - Malaysia specifically has very close links to the GCC countries - as they upgraded there was a direct result on Malaysia as wel
6. Lastly - when you have the right structures in place - command/c&c, doctrine - NatStrat level - makes upgrading much faster and easier
 

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