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A Chinese economist Mr Chen Jing's article:

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Translation:

Why did proud India bow its head and reach a six-point consensus with China?

1. Vikram Misri is Modi's special envoy, not casually. We talked about the six points of consensus, basically to end the confrontation. Direct flights are India broken, visas are also Indian cards, all will be restored.

2. India has a characteristic, the introduction of policies is very fierce, some ideas are not the Chinese dare to think. For example, it is clearly unfavorable for India, the card Chinese technician visa, it is still doing. European and American companies are severely fined, do not consider affecting the investment reputation. Independent and independent, very proud. In the international arena, the influence is not small, often stir up a lot of movement.

3. Pride is also reflected in the fact that India’s propaganda is very fierce and very optimistic. Now it is not the best for the future, the plan is basically equal to there. The total volume is not the fastest growth rate, not to mention the total economy immediately surpassed the sun and shocked the world. In addition to the international praise of China’s economy, the situation seems to be very good, replacing China with great hope.

4. Unexpectedly, although India does have some strength and potential, but it also takes time. The reality is still quite difficult, beginning in the second half of 2024, there are some relatively big troubles. For example, the Indian stock market, just four months back, the withdrawal of foreign capital, it is not good to boast. And if the economic growth rate, from the highest in the world's major economies, dropped to 5.4% in the fourth quarter of 2024, it is the same as China! It should have shocked 8%.

5. The relationship with China is not good, and there are problems, some key components and technology are tightened controls, and even assembly technical support personnel are affected. The Indian side has no courage to be tough to the end. It has always been fishing between China and the United States, because the United States must win, win big, win fast, so it turned aside. Now the United States is in great trouble, China is strong, and the expectations are not established. The master is too far away, or simply rely on Chinese technology products.

6. Therefore, starting in the fourth quarter of 2024, India began to ease. First, it disengaged from the border and relaxed. Now it is ready to resume direct flights, visas, and some exchange programs. However, it is impossible for India to get through the customs so easily.

7. There is expected to be a regulatory framework, sanctions control will be there, and see what India does. Apart from verbally agreeing to resume communication, we will always be vigilant and learn the lessons of the past lack of understanding of Indian psychological characteristics and decision-making styles. The Indian market is large, and there is definitely a need to trade, and people do not trade make a surplus of 100 billion dollars. But making money also needs to be managed, one is really to make money, and the other is to maintain long-term interests.

8. It is expected that the Indian economy will still grow at a higher rate, but not very well. It is also necessary to increase the import of Chinese technology products, it is difficult to be independent. China-India cooperation is inevitable, in an atmosphere of less friendly, mutual caution, and collision, based on the basic principles of trade, business is growing. India has become a large market where Chinese companies can make money, but also know how to operate.

 

[Blademaster]

A Chinese economist Mr Chen Jing's article:

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Translation:

Why did proud India bow its head and reach a six-point consensus with China?

1. Vikram Misri is Modi's special envoy, not casually. We talked about the six points of consensus, basically to end the confrontation. Direct flights are India broken, visas are also Indian cards, all will be restored.

2. India has a characteristic, the introduction of policies is very fierce, some ideas are not the Chinese dare to think. For example, it is clearly unfavorable for India, the card Chinese technician visa, it is still doing. European and American companies are severely fined, do not consider affecting the investment reputation. Independent and independent, very proud. In the international arena, the influence is not small, often stir up a lot of movement.

3. Pride is also reflected in the fact that India’s propaganda is very fierce and very optimistic. Now it is not the best for the future, the plan is basically equal to there. The total volume is not the fastest growth rate, not to mention the total economy immediately surpassed the sun and shocked the world. In addition to the international praise of China’s economy, the situation seems to be very good, replacing China with great hope.

4. Unexpectedly, although India does have some strength and potential, but it also takes time. The reality is still quite difficult, beginning in the second half of 2024, there are some relatively big troubles. For example, the Indian stock market, just four months back, the withdrawal of foreign capital, it is not good to boast. And if the economic growth rate, from the highest in the world's major economies, dropped to 5.4% in the fourth quarter of 2024, it is the same as China! It should have shocked 8%.

5. The relationship with China is not good, and there are problems, some key components and technology are tightened controls, and even assembly technical support personnel are affected. The Indian side has no courage to be tough to the end. It has always been fishing between China and the United States, because the United States must win, win big, win fast, so it turned aside. Now the United States is in great trouble, China is strong, and the expectations are not established. The master is too far away, or simply rely on Chinese technology products.

6. Therefore, starting in the fourth quarter of 2024, India began to ease. First, it disengaged from the border and relaxed. Now it is ready to resume direct flights, visas, and some exchange programs. However, it is impossible for India to get through the customs so easily.

7. There is expected to be a regulatory framework, sanctions control will be there, and see what India does. Apart from verbally agreeing to resume communication, we will always be vigilant and learn the lessons of the past lack of understanding of Indian psychological characteristics and decision-making styles. The Indian market is large, and there is definitely a need to trade, and people do not trade make a surplus of 100 billion dollars. But making money also needs to be managed, one is really to make money, and the other is to maintain long-term interests.

8. It is expected that the Indian economy will still grow at a higher rate, but not very well. It is also necessary to increase the import of Chinese technology products, it is difficult to be independent. China-India cooperation is inevitable, in an atmosphere of less friendly, mutual caution, and collision, based on the basic principles of trade, business is growing. India has become a large market where Chinese companies can make money, but also know how to operate.

A crappy bullshit of an article if I ever read one. Rockdog, try to stop posting stupid CCP propaganda on this forum. Go post this shit somewhere else.

 

[Azaad]

A Chinese economist Mr Chen Jing's article:

Link

Sina Visitor System

Translation:

Why did proud India bow its head and reach a six-point consensus with China?

1. Vikram Misri is Modi's special envoy, not casually. We talked about the six points of consensus, basically to end the confrontation. Direct flights are India broken, visas are also Indian cards, all will be restored.

2. India has a characteristic, the introduction of policies is very fierce, some ideas are not the Chinese dare to think. For example, it is clearly unfavorable for India, the card Chinese technician visa, it is still doing. European and American companies are severely fined, do not consider affecting the investment reputation. Independent and independent, very proud. In the international arena, the influence is not small, often stir up a lot of movement.

3. Pride is also reflected in the fact that India’s propaganda is very fierce and very optimistic. Now it is not the best for the future, the plan is basically equal to there. The total volume is not the fastest growth rate, not to mention the total economy immediately surpassed the sun and shocked the world. In addition to the international praise of China’s economy, the situation seems to be very good, replacing China with great hope.

4. Unexpectedly, although India does have some strength and potential, but it also takes time. The reality is still quite difficult, beginning in the second half of 2024, there are some relatively big troubles. For example, the Indian stock market, just four months back, the withdrawal of foreign capital, it is not good to boast. And if the economic growth rate, from the highest in the world's major economies, dropped to 5.4% in the fourth quarter of 2024, it is the same as China! It should have shocked 8%.

5. The relationship with China is not good, and there are problems, some key components and technology are tightened controls, and even assembly technical support personnel are affected. The Indian side has no courage to be tough to the end. It has always been fishing between China and the United States, because the United States must win, win big, win fast, so it turned aside. Now the United States is in great trouble, China is strong, and the expectations are not established. The master is too far away, or simply rely on Chinese technology products.

6. Therefore, starting in the fourth quarter of 2024, India began to ease. First, it disengaged from the border and relaxed. Now it is ready to resume direct flights, visas, and some exchange programs. However, it is impossible for India to get through the customs so easily.

7. There is expected to be a regulatory framework, sanctions control will be there, and see what India does. Apart from verbally agreeing to resume communication, we will always be vigilant and learn the lessons of the past lack of understanding of Indian psychological characteristics and decision-making styles. The Indian market is large, and there is definitely a need to trade, and people do not trade make a surplus of 100 billion dollars. But making money also needs to be managed, one is really to make money, and the other is to maintain long-term interests.

8. It is expected that the Indian economy will still grow at a higher rate, but not very well. It is also necessary to increase the import of Chinese technology products, it is difficult to be independent. China-India cooperation is inevitable, in an atmosphere of less friendly, mutual caution, and collision, based on the basic principles of trade, business is growing. India has become a large market where Chinese companies can make money, but also know how to operate.

If everything is about India ceding ground & China not being affected why did the CCP accept India's terms ? CCP should've refused to resume flights & issue visas to India.

I don't think anybody in the government has any illusions whatsoever China's weaponizing its trade & industrial dominance against India which it must as per the dictates of realpolitic.

That's what the China + 1 plan is all about - to decouple with China where India can expect to be only one of the many other beneficiaries. Why would you assume anyone in India or the rest of the world would be stupid enough not to consider the fact that the CCP would retaliate in kind ?

I could go on with the rebuttals but it struck me the entire tone of the article seems not just propaganda for the consumption of the Chinese masses but it seems clear now the CCP sincerely believes it , every word of it . It's called being high on your own supply. This is hubris the Japanese were referring to when they compared it to the triumphalism within the Imperial Japanes Military just before WW-2.

It's truly astounding when you really think of it , how exactly does the CCP think it can go about demolishing existing manufacturing bases all across the world especially of the west without expecting any backlash as if the entire world will kowtow to the Chinese without a war be it economic followed by the real thing.

Good luck to you . As the ancient Chinese curse goes - May you live in interesting times. Well you've just made the world a more interesting place . From 2020 onwards.