Indo US Relations

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/DerekJGrossman/status/1828223721938788786

 

[Cheepek]

How is Modi responsible for this?.
Dhindus wanted kaste kanging and voted on local issue in national election ,well we got weak coalition goverment ,taking away a single strength from central incumbent goverment . Now murica have many pressure points.

If Modi talks to XYZ about plight of Bangladeshi Hindus, and receives no response- then Modi is at fault and not the other guy.

Sounds like a Paki, I talked to US prez on K issue, i talked in UN about K issue, I talked to the world about K issue, but no one bothers.
Yeah, you're the clown and not the world.

 

[Suga]

If Modi talks to XYZ about plight of Bangladeshi Hindus, and receives no response- then Modi is at fault and not the other guy.

Sounds like a Paki, I talked to US prez on K issue, i talked in UN about K issue, I talked to the world about K issue, but no one bothers.
Yeah, you're the clown and not the world.

Yeh modi or any PM is respomsible for everything even thing which are out of their power.
Sarkar Mai-baap ,sarkarr sb kuch kr sakti hai.

 

[Prasad]

Yeh modi or any PM is respomsible for everything even thing which are out of their power.
Sarkar Mai-baap ,sarkarr sb kuch kr sakti hai.

These clowns who abuse BJP and Modi conveniently and intentionally forget we are still buying incredible amount of oil and gas from Russia.

You see, it does not fit their narrative to abuse BJP and Modi.

but but,,,they will claim to be "hindus"

 

[ezsasa]

- Blood telegram , written by former U.S ambassador to bangladesh archer blood
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’India does not always align with West, deal with it’: EAM Jaishankar on Delhi’s stance on Ukraine war​

 

[Miss Firing]

Ref - Massa civilizers meet Omar/NC

1. As you are aware, we have signed SOSA & talks going on for RDP.

2. Talks for stryker are going on

3. Rajnath sir went to US over 404 delay.

4. Our leader went to see Chulinsky ji to sooth his triggered Bandera feathers. However no condemnation of Russia happened

5. Remember - "We are an open democracy with nothing to fear." (Every Tom/Dick/Harry/Hu/Achmed can come, record, narrate & propagandize without any fear with our own people siding with them, this IS the SYSTEM, nothing can be done about it)

6. Still, as you are aware, even better that me, we literally apply chili powder on secessionist bums, take video, spread it & then play "healing touch" game.

7. Pakistani intruders are generally shot at sight

8. Our oil imports from Russia was highest last month

9. We have started approving CCP investments

10. Russian warship berthed in Chennai & Navy honchos had some discussions

11. Remember, all this is happening against the back drop of the SECOND Amerishart regime change in our neighborhood, first being Pimpran Khan

12. There is massive online/print media propaganda against India from Bangladesh/local Indian pliant media as well

13. Official tweet from a US Navy handle mentioning "natural partnership between US/Bangladesh" is a dead giveaway.

14. US diplomats have met CBN, Revant Reddy & now this (with JK elections coming).

Given the current scenario, we will neither go hyper aggressive against US nor agree to ALL their demands.

Yes, our bar for RED LINES are going down.

Looks like there is day to day interference. (Remember the letter from a US diplomat "asking" the Mumbai port to deny berthing for Russian warship).

In addition to this , our History & Culture are being rewritten/re-narrated by people officially funded by US (Audrey Trushke for example), vassal Kraut media has started platforming some far left twitter "historians" for fact checking Indian history.

The fact that we have no major MIC & no major "blood brothers" as allies will be milked to the hilt.

On a related note -

National Conference, Congress Crack Jammu And Kashmir Seat-Sharing Deal

Congress and National Conference have reached a deal to share J&K's 90 Assembly seats ahead of next month's election, senior leaders from each side said Monday, bringing talks to a end hours before the deadline to file nominees for the 1st phase.

www.ndtv.com

Lundericans are needling.

And why would they mention about plight of Hindus.



Their asset in Bangladesh wrote this & Indian MSM including a certain gentleman who once said a coup was happening in New Delhi are amplifying.


View: https://x.com/ShekharGupta/status/1827632608370430393

In case you are wondering the author of this article is a Zafar Sobhan.

I hope that they meet kuki leaders next - Hope that will "wake"up GOI, but i doubt.



This guy has defended Pannun's threat to blow up Indian planes as "freedom of expression".

He does not deserve to be here.



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But we are getting more integrated with US systems with SOSA/RDP (talks).

 

[ezsasa]

Lundericans are needling.

And why would they mention about plight of Hindus.

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Their asset in Bangladesh wrote this & Indian MSM including a certain gentleman who once said a coup was happening in New Delhi are amplifying.


View: https://x.com/ShekharGupta/status/1827632608370430393

In case you are wondering the author of this article is a Zafar Sobhan.

I hope that they meet kuki leaders next - Hope that will "wake"up GOI, but i doubt.

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This guy has defended Pannun's threat to blow up Indian planes as "freedom of expression".

He does not deserve to be here.

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But we are getting more integrated with US systems with SOSA/RDP (talks).

on Zafar sobhan ..

Son of salma sobhan , salma sobhan is cousin of "Direct action day" suhrawardy.

Salma Sobhan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Miss Firing]

American democracy is an utter sham


View: https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1828201780544504064


View: https://x.com/mirandadevine/status/1465398933753307136

Mark Zuckerberg just admitted three things:

1. Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
2. Facebook censored Americans.
3. Facebook throttled the Hunter Biden laptop story.

Biden regime has been intimidating media to toe its line in all spheres. Regime's brown shirts aka the FBI are conducting raids on journalists who do not conform.

Yet the audacity with which they go around parading as though they invented democracy, moralism, justness & free press is just mind boggling.

They should learn electoral democracy from India & at least conduct proper elections first.

 

[Nutcracker]

American democracy is an utter sham


View: https://x.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1828201780544504064


View: https://x.com/mirandadevine/status/1465398933753307136

Mark Zuckerberg just admitted three things:

1. Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
2. Facebook censored Americans.
3. Facebook throttled the Hunter Biden laptop story.

Biden regime has been intimidating media to toe its line in all spheres. Regime's brown shirts aka the FBI are conducting raids on journalists who do not conform.

Yet the audacity with which they go around parading as though they invented democracy, moralism, justness & free press is just mind boggling.

They should learn electoral democracy from India & at least conduct proper elections first.

ALL PLANNED. AS A CLOCKWORK.
THIS ADMITTANCE ONLY CAME OUT ONCE BIDEN WITHDREW FROM PREZ ELECTION.
In order to not cause suspicion US-deepisstate made sure that its not too soon after his withdrawal, and not too late to cause impact in the year end election.

 

[Anants]

You know what I miss commies parties in these times. Commies were effectively used by NDA(Vajpayee) and Congress/UPA parties to effectively stall any US pressure by getting them to organize anti US demonstrations in front of US consulate. This helped a India claw back some leverage from US.

 

[ezsasa]

You know what I miss commies parties in these times. Commies were effectively used by NDA(Vajpayee) and Congress/UPA parties to effectively stall any US pressure by getting them to organize anti US demonstrations in front of US consulate. This helped a India claw back some leverage from US.

a lot has changed since then. U.S was viewed as a capitalist country then, u.s has now become marxist utopia i.e liberal democracy. leninist and maoist factions of CPI may have issues with U.S, but CPI-M(Marxists) are pro-democratic party now, so much so that CPI-M(marxist) talking heads now amplify talking points coming from democrat "liberal" circles.

this is an article on kavitha krishnan ex-CPI ML


https://nazariyamagazine.in/2023/09/12/kavitakrishnan-stalin-liberation/comment-page-1/

there is a law in U.S that states that communist party members from other countries need permission beyond a visa to visit U.S, and yet one will find CPI-marxist leadership visiting U.S.

 

[Anants]

What a fall!! For both Demos and CPIM. Your post tallies with Balaji Viswanathan interview where he claimed Demos have gone hard left.. And I believe this is due to successful Demos thought enrichment by CCP over the years.

 

[Illusive]

I dont think I understand this current political scenario. The wealthy like Soros support hardcore left? So they have a gunpoint in their head. Its weird to see these big companies like Meta, Google which are capitalists bow to left or are they the one in control.

Funny thing in China is, they are far from anything the traditional left was, but they do clip the wings of big companies or personalities which may undermine CCP.

Chinese would definitely not try to kill the golden goose that is US though.

 

[ezsasa]

I dont think I understand this current political scenario. The wealthy like Soros support hardcore left? So they have a gunpoint in their head. Its weird to see these big companies like Meta, Google which are capitalists bow to left or are they the one in control.

Funny thing in China is, they are far from anything the traditional left was, but they do clip the wings of big companies or personalities which may undermine CCP.

Chinese would definitely not try to kill the golden goose that is US though.

one less discussed argument i have read somewhere especially when it comes to tech capitalists is that, a similar tactic that these tech giants use in their hiring strategy, i.e they hire good brains and make them do nothing just to make sure their competitors don't get access to merit, so that their market dominance is not challenged in a future date by new tech or product. in other words, they don't want to become another nokia.

liberalism detests meritocracy supports social justice, meritocracy is needed for new wealth to be created, by starving the society of meritocracy the incumbent rich can prolong their stay at the top. so liberalism and social justice causes get support from incumbent wealthy.

in India too we see a version of this, our folks focus on the anti-hindutva part, but there are others agendas these organisations run which are primarily anti-reform anti-meritocracy.

Who runs & funds Hinduphobic, Bharat-bashing media like 'The Wire'?

In this series of articles, we will attempt to probe the backers and funders of new & established media organizations with a decidedly Hinduphobic

hindupost.in

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

90-foot-tall bronze statue of Lord Hanuman becomes new landmark in Texas

A 90-foot-tall bronze statue of Lord Hanuman, known as the 'Statue of Union,' has been unveiled near Houston at the Sri Ashtalakshmi Temple, marking a significant cultural and spiritual milestone in America. This third tallest statue in the US symbolizes selflessness, devotion, and unity, and...

m.economictimes.com

I don't know how Red necks will be reacting to this in their circles. The key is to make them believe and it's real that them and us both have survival problems from leftist-islamists combo.

 

[Illusive]

one less discussed argument i have read somewhere especially when it comes to tech capitalists is that, a similar tactic that these tech giants use in their hiring strategy, i.e they hire good brains and make them do nothing just to make sure their competitors don't get access to merit, so that their market dominance is not challenged in a future date by new tech or product. in other words, they don't want to become another nokia.

liberalism detests meritocracy supports social justice, meritocracy is needed for new wealth to be created, by starving the society of meritocracy the incumbent rich can prolong their stay at the top. so liberalism and social justice causes get support from incumbent wealthy.

in India too we see a version of this, our folks focus on the anti-hindutva part, but there are others agendas these organisations run which are primarily anti-reform anti-meritocracy.

Who runs & funds Hinduphobic, Bharat-bashing media like 'The Wire'?

In this series of articles, we will attempt to probe the backers and funders of new & established media organizations with a decidedly Hinduphobic

hindupost.in

But that doesn't mean they will stay in the bubble, they'd get slayed by Chinese companies or others who would just innovate and outperform them. I still have difficulty understanding the motivations of the current US led left.

The goal of any power has been to keep your opponents busy within themselves fighting each other and profit from it or simply annihilate it.

There are so many details in this like, the population/fertility decline, rise of AI, rise of fundametalist Islamist foothold in the west which I think is just the virus that has been planted systematically eveywhere to create unrest when needed, the push for immigrants without any filter.

It just feels like the left is a mess right now of different thought processes. You cant just call them Marxist and be done with it is all I am saying.

 

[Anants]

But that doesn't mean they will stay in the bubble, they'd get slayed by Chinese companies or others who would just innovate and outperform them. I still have difficulty understanding the motivations of the current US led left.

The goal of any power has been to keep your opponents busy within themselves fighting each other and profit from it or simply annihilate it.

There are so many details in this like, the population/fertility decline, rise of AI, rise of fundametalist Islamist foothold in the west which I think is just the virus that has been planted systematically eveywhere to create unrest when needed, the push for immigrants without any filter.

It just feels like the left is a mess right now of different thought processes. You cant just call them Marxist and be done with it is all I am saying.

It isnt mess. CPIM batted for Chinese. CPIM will bat for anyone for who Chinese want them to bat. Its simple. Regarding West is turning left become of economic conditions as well as Chinese influence. And you have to understand left is nothing but offshoot of Abrahamic thought. So even democratic societies are intertwined with leftist thoughts intractably which they try to give space under "socialistic" policies.

 

[ezsasa]

The Mudi has become so pathetic that the US readout doesn't even mention Bangladesh

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Modi should stay at home and focus on winning elections along with fixing internal issues, instead of doing this vishawaguru nonsense.

and from a different perspective..

- every word and sentence that comes out in a MEA related readout is very deliberate, they have people dedicated to writing and approving drafts for outgoing communication. they could have chosen not to publish that sentence, but they did not. if PMO and MEA added some sentence, it is very deliberate.

- by choosing to include the sentence on BD minorities and U.S not including this in their readout. our MEA has put a marker in 2024 and is telling our historians and future practitioners, U.S policy hasn't moved that much since 50 years on this matter. this will be later be interpreted by future Indian policy practitioners as per circumstances of their day.

- future foreign policy academics/historians will not look thru social chatter to understand the state of affairs of the past, good ones will go thru official statements of the past, bad ones will rely on opeds of the past.

 

[Anants]

https://swarajyamag.com/news-brief/safety-of-hindus-in-bangladesh-comes-up-in-pm-modis-phone-call-to-us-president-biden-ukraine-issue-also-discussed

 

[Azaad]

and from a different perspective..

- every word and sentence that comes out in a MEA related readout is very deliberate, they have people dedicated to writing and approving drafts for outgoing communication. they could have chosen not to publish that sentence, but they did not. if PMO and MEA added some sentence, it is very deliberate.

- by choosing to include the sentence on BD minorities and U.S not including this in their readout. our MEA has put a marker in 2024 and is telling our historians and future practitioners, U.S policy hasn't moved that much since 50 years on this matter. this will be later be interpreted by future Indian policy practitioners as per circumstances of their day.

- future foreign policy academics/historians will not look thru social chatter to understand the state of affairs of the past, good ones will go thru official statements of the past, bad ones will rely on opeds of the past.

Regarding this entire imbroglio in BD , I deliberately stayed away from those threads so as to not add anything to the chatter & fill in countless pages indulging in wild speculation besides venting my spleen & in the hope that within a span of a month or 2 a more clear picture will emerge.

Unfortunately nearly a month down the line the situation is getting even more muddled. For instance how many of us out here knew BD had approved China's plans in 2017 to construct a submarine pen to house 6-7 subs at an upcoming Naval base near Cox's Bazaar IIRC which was built last March - the BNS Shaikh Haseena .

Do we understand that BD intends to have a fleet of 6 submarines in the near future or is this subterfuge to get the PLAN in ? In the event St Martin's Island the purported place which the US was interested in is totally unsuitable for a base . However the issue remains that the US is interested in a Naval cum Aircraft Base in BD.

Was the US asking for a quid pro quo in the light of the PLAN getting a foothold there which SHW obviously denied them ? What was India's reaction to the base the Chinese built ostensibly for the BDN ? On the surface there seems nothing amiss in the Modi administration's relationship with the SHW government .

Now the issue is with SHW gone & BDs economy deteriorating , will the BD Army acquiesce to US demands. There's a very good chance it might happen. However , how will the Islamists treat such a move ? Assuming the US buys them out , it's no longer a case of the JeI monopolising the Islamists cause in BD anymore .

A lot of even more extreme players have cropped up who may not be pliable to US manoeuvres or aligned with the JeI way of thinking . Moreover it's not as if the Awami League is both - down & OUT . Neither will the Chinese sit back & be a passive observer , nor will we ?

If such a base can have the Chinese worried , It's a even bigger problem for us. We already have US personnel prying our bases under the pretext of preventing misuse of defence equipment of US origin they've sold us like the P-8i , INS Jalashwa , the few Predators we've taken on lease etc . With the slew of agreements we've signed previously & just now , their intrusion into our defence establishment will grow .

How exactly did the Indian establishment react behind closed doors to the US mounting a campaign to oust SHW before & after the elections ? Apart from a few customary statements from the MEA there was nothing of note in the public domain.

I've a gut feeling BD will become a real mess going forward on both the political & economic fronts becoming a playground for competing interests with disastrous consequences for themselves & us .