Indus water treaty

Numero said:
If you kill people through war & skirmishes people won't give a squat.
Hindu Cringe accounts need to pipe down a bit. Water is a human necessicity. Don't overhype yourself too much so that people start to accuse you. Bharat Bharat spam karta hai aur meaningless stuff spam karta hai. Right wings still don't know how to make a point
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Water is not usually shared with neighbors by any nation. Especially with terrorists
You may have a soft spot for them but many don't.
 
LETHALFORCE said:
Water is not usually shared with neighbors by any nation. Especially with terrorists
You may have a soft spot for them but many don't.
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Not shared but we normalised it since the Nehru time. To the point that it can be a questionable issue for some.
Nonetheless, I don't give a shit even if they're boiled on oven.
 
Numero said:
Not shared but we normalised it since the Nehru time. To the point that it can be a questionable issue for some.
Nonetheless, I don't give a shit even if they're boiled on oven.
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you are right it is really no shared 50-50, we gave 80 percent.
 
Numero said:
If you kill people through war & skirmishes people won't give a squat.
Hindu Cringe accounts need to pipe down a bit. Water is a human necessicity. Don't overhype yourself too much so that people start to accuse you. Bharat Bharat likhta hai aur meaningless stuff spam karta hai. Right wings still don't know how to make a point. Too immature & aggressive with a weak IQ
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Tum kya Gandhi ki books pdte ho kya? "6 women in bed".
Who cares human rights for terrorists? Do you think Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, Xi will accuse India to scrap human rights for a zombie race??
 
ThE BrOkEn HeArT said:
Tum kya Gandhi ki books pdte ho kya? "6 women in bed".
Who cares human rights for terrorists? Do you think Trump, Putin, Netanyahu, Xi will accuse India to scrap human rights for a zombie race??
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Other countries aren't weak like India in narrative making. Here we're talking about a whole country of Pakistan. It's a heavy job. Moreover, there are too many Mirjafars living inside to create instability & set Pakistan's narratives in a hope to undermine Modi. Country is the least of their concern.
 
Numero said:
Other countries aren't weak like India in narrative making. Here we're talking about a whole country of Pakistan. It's a heavy job. Moreover, there are too many Mirjafars living inside to create instability & set Pakistan's narratives in a hope to undermine Modi. Country is the least of their concern.
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This part... Im agreed. But we can hope opposition will support GOI when it comes to a war. Today in all party meet... INDIalliance have showed the support to GOI.
 
ThE BrOkEn HeArT said:
This part... Im agreed. But we can hope opposition will support GOI when it comes to a war. Today in all party meet... INDIalliance have showed the support to GOI.
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Mere eyewash. They be doing what they're supposed to do. See how Congress sent their Karyakarta in Kashmir masquerading them as tourists & giving interviews to garner support for the locals. Even in this critical times. So many exposes are there.
 
dumdumdum said:
So how do you "build infra" without walking away from a treaty that prohibits you from building that infra?
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Read my post again.

I said "Let them build" i.e I'm willing to wait for a couple of years and see if they actually walk the talk or chicken out like they did on NRC.
 
Vinash said:
Read my post again.

I said "Let them build" i.e I'm willing to wait for a couple of years and see if they actually walk the talk or chicken out like they did on NRC.
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Temporary/small scale diversions can be done in the short term (like we have discussed on the other thread). Large scale diversions will take a decade and probably more.

There has been good progress on this front I would say. A number of tributaries have started drying up in pakiland - after we started building dams on a war footing especially post 2019. We still are not close to utilizing the entirety of the share allocated to us in the IWT - long way to go before we start gobbling up pak's shares too.
 
crazywithmath said:
Temporary/small scale diversions can be done in a few months (like we have discussed on the other thread). Large scale diversions will take a decade and probably more.
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If the political leadership actually wants to get it done, they will.

Yeah, start the large scale projects also. It's not like you have to allocate the entire budget right away. The budget will be spread over multiple years for large scale projects.

Let's see if they start large scale projects in an year.
 
Vinash said:
If the political leadership actually wants to get it done, they will.
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I have edited my response, read the 2nd part.

Vinash said:
Yeah, start the large scale projects also. It's not like you have to allocate the entire budget right away. The budget will be spread over multiple years for large scale projects.

Let's see if they start large scale projects in an year.
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Nope, will require extensive geotechnical surveys and standardizing. The kind of infra they will have to build in a seismically active Himalayan topography has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - so testing and standardizing would come first. Then DPRs. Only then can the constructions start and still, they would require political consensus.

This is precisely why I was writing the other day that the true impact of us scrapping the IWT would be felt in a decade from now.
 
crazywithmath said:
I have edited my response, read the 2nd part.



Nope, will require extensive geotechnical surveys and standardizing. The kind of infra they will have to build in a seismically active Himalayan topography has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - so testing and standardizing would come first. Then DPRs. Only then can the constructions start and still, they would require political consensus.

This is precisely why I was writing the other day that the true impact of us scrapping the IWT would be felt in a decade from now.
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any chance preparations have already been made years ago???
 
LETHALFORCE said:
any chance preparations have already been made years ago???
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Na Bhai, you'll need fresh geological surveys.

For a bit more offbeat, and possibly fantastical idea would be to build aqueducts instead of dams. Connecting multiple irrigation aqueducts will functionally divide up the. The catchment area of these aqueducts will need to be massive to take in most of the water though.
 
Sanglamorre said:
Na Bhai, you'll need fresh geological surveys.

For a bit more offbeat, and possibly fantastical idea would be to build aqueducts instead of dams. Connecting multiple irrigation aqueducts will functionally divide up the. The catchment area of these aqueducts will need to be massive to take in most of the water though.
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Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).
 
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