Indus water treaty

[crazywithmath]

If the political leadership actually wants to get it done, they will.

I have edited my response, read the 2nd part.

Yeah, start the large scale projects also. It's not like you have to allocate the entire budget right away. The budget will be spread over multiple years for large scale projects.

Let's see if they start large scale projects in an year.

Nope, will require extensive geotechnical surveys and standardizing. The kind of infra they will have to build in a seismically active Himalayan topography has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - so testing and standardizing would come first. Then DPRs. Only then can the constructions start and still, they would require political consensus.

This is precisely why I was writing the other day that the true impact of us scrapping the IWT would be felt in a decade from now.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I have edited my response, read the 2nd part.



Nope, will require extensive geotechnical surveys and standardizing. The kind of infra they will have to build in a seismically active Himalayan topography has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - so testing and standardizing would come first. Then DPRs. Only then can the constructions start and still, they would require political consensus.

This is precisely why I was writing the other day that the true impact of us scrapping the IWT would be felt in a decade from now.

any chance preparations have already been made years ago???

 

[crazywithmath]

any chance preparations have already been made years ago???

@haldilal

 

[Sanglamorre]

any chance preparations have already been made years ago???

Na Bhai, you'll need fresh geological surveys.

For a bit more offbeat, and possibly fantastical idea would be to build aqueducts instead of dams. Connecting multiple irrigation aqueducts will functionally divide up the. The catchment area of these aqueducts will need to be massive to take in most of the water though.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

@haldilal @Vinash @SKC

can one of you gents maybe copypasta the river diversion posts from the Pehlgam thread to here for a concise locus standi ?
Thanks.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Na Bhai, you'll need fresh geological surveys.

For a bit more offbeat, and possibly fantastical idea would be to build aqueducts instead of dams. Connecting multiple irrigation aqueducts will functionally divide up the. The catchment area of these aqueducts will need to be massive to take in most of the water though.

Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).

 

[haldilal]

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[redpanda]

Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).

Yep Barrages + Canals can easily be built even in those terrains. Even if we can't stop the water all together if we can even limit 30%-40% it would be disastrous for those Porkis.

 

[Sanglamorre]

Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).

Fair point. Canals would be better. Either way, canals are something that can be done much easier than the kind of dams we would need. They can even be operational in parts so that water can be decreased from Pakistan as the construction goes on.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Lot of the media has India can’t do this or India can’t do that. How will water be stored etc… this is all after the fact the treaty is suspended what will Pakistan do? Being suspended will give enough time to plan the water diversion when that is completed the treaty can be completely scrapped.