Indus water treaty

If the political leadership actually wants to get it done, they will.
I have edited my response, read the 2nd part.

Yeah, start the large scale projects also. It's not like you have to allocate the entire budget right away. The budget will be spread over multiple years for large scale projects.

Let's see if they start large scale projects in an year.

Nope, will require extensive geotechnical surveys and standardizing. The kind of infra they will have to build in a seismically active Himalayan topography has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - so testing and standardizing would come first. Then DPRs. Only then can the constructions start and still, they would require political consensus.

This is precisely why I was writing the other day that the true impact of us scrapping the IWT would be felt in a decade from now.
 
I have edited my response, read the 2nd part.



Nope, will require extensive geotechnical surveys and standardizing. The kind of infra they will have to build in a seismically active Himalayan topography has not been attempted anywhere else in the world - so testing and standardizing would come first. Then DPRs. Only then can the constructions start and still, they would require political consensus.

This is precisely why I was writing the other day that the true impact of us scrapping the IWT would be felt in a decade from now.
any chance preparations have already been made years ago???
 
any chance preparations have already been made years ago???
Na Bhai, you'll need fresh geological surveys.

For a bit more offbeat, and possibly fantastical idea would be to build aqueducts instead of dams. Connecting multiple irrigation aqueducts will functionally divide up the. The catchment area of these aqueducts will need to be massive to take in most of the water though.
 
Na Bhai, you'll need fresh geological surveys.

For a bit more offbeat, and possibly fantastical idea would be to build aqueducts instead of dams. Connecting multiple irrigation aqueducts will functionally divide up the. The catchment area of these aqueducts will need to be massive to take in most of the water though.
Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).
 
Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).
Yep Barrages + Canals can easily be built even in those terrains. Even if we can't stop the water all together if we can even limit 30%-40% it would be disastrous for those Porkis.
 
Nobody builds aqueducts anymore. Especially at a high volume scale. Thats retarded in terms of price. We build canals.
The biggest difference between industrial and pre-idustrial world. is now, rock-cutting is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper than building up piles of rock as buildings for base needs such as water transport or sewage ( though in sewage's case we overlook this cost advantage for safety standards of containment of sewage from groundwater/soil strata).
Fair point. Canals would be better. Either way, canals are something that can be done much easier than the kind of dams we would need. They can even be operational in parts so that water can be decreased from Pakistan as the construction goes on.
 
Lot of the media has India can’t do this or India can’t do that. How will water be stored etc… this is all after the fact the treaty is suspended what will Pakistan do? Being suspended will give enough time to plan the water diversion when that is completed the treaty can be completely scrapped.
 
Lot of the media has India can’t do this or India can’t do that. How will water be stored etc… this is all after the fact the treaty is suspended what will Pakistan do? Being suspended will give enough time to plan the water diversion when that is completed the treaty can be completely scrapped.
What will Pakistan do ?
Answer: follow the universal handbook of downstream nations : Cope & Seethe.
 
The one thing i posted about in another tread about river diversion ( i really wish we could copy-pasta those posts here as i did spend some effort looking up numbers ) that didnt get any responses and i am curious as to what the patriots here think of the idea of diverting Indus:

First, when it comes to river diversion, abandon any and all thought of 'we will cut channel straight through 80km of himalayan main ridge that is 6km high on average and just dump indus into pehlgam'.
That is minecraft logic, not reality.

The indus enters India carrying about 20% of the water it carries as it exists Kashmir. The biggest tributary of Indus is Shyok- which is biggerthan the Indus itself in water volume at point of confluence.
So shyok + Indus =45-50% of indus water.

So looking at geography, the ONLY way to divert indus, is if you cut a short chanel across ONE ridge along the indus - just 20-30km north of demchok and make indus fall into Pangong Tso lake.
The Shyok also comes within 2km of pangong Tso and is also connectable to it by a short-cut over one ridge.
Then once it falls into Pangong Tso, China can cut a channel through relatively flat tibet and either just create a massive inter-connected bigger lake district in tibet to absorb indus-shyok waters or cut a channel all the way to the Kunlun and make it fall into the Khotan river and make Xinjiang 10 times greener - as this 'river' will literally double the water output to xinjiang.

China will be HAPPILY onboard this plan, because China cannot do it alone without war - Indus only becomes divertable to Pangong Tso inside of Ladakh and Shyok is all inside Ladakh before it goes on to Baltitstan to fall into indus.

But question is, what do YOU, the Indian patriot, think of this ??
Because if we do this, there is no going back - you cannot 're-fill' cut ridgeline channels effectively- concrete erodes a lot quicker under water abrasion than rock.
And this is PERMANENTLY gifting an Indian river the size of Krishna river to China and withering the western Indian subcontinent.
But the pro is, this *IS* fatal hit to pakistan. You do this, Pakistan dies as a country, PERIOD.

So whats the choice patriots would take, i am curious - do you kill your arch-nemesis by fucking over indian subcontinent a bit or do you tolerate arch-nemesis and dont take away Sindhu from hindu ?
 

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