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Very important part of infrastructure is hygiene and sanitation. India is severely lacking in this department. Any word on this? Landfills? Anything? Cleaning toilets and washrooms? Water recycling? Anything? Sewage? Septic?
 
londonparistokyo said:
Very important part of infrastructure is hygiene and sanitation. India is severely lacking in this department. Any word on this? Landfills? Anything? Cleaning toilets and washrooms? Water recycling? Anything? Sewage? Septic?
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Its easy to do in some other's Natives land that's virtually unaltered or when some country is too homogeneous.
 
The Taj Mahal is being visited by Lakhs of People every year. The Tajmahal and its surrounding area looks clean with that parks and other monuments. The moment outside it is basically a shithole which is super ugly and it never redeveloped.

In the name of facelift few of the contractors done this.

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Basically putting an lipstick on a dirty pig and call it a day.

Urban planning in India needs a massive push. Things like waste management, water pipelines, electricity supplies, footpath, parks, sports area needs to be done.

For an country which build some of the most complex architectures today struggle to build even some simple things.
 
ArjunMK1A said:
The Taj Mahal is being visited by Lakhs of People every year. The Tajmahal and its surrounding area looks clean with that parks and other monuments. The moment outside it is basically a shithole which is super ugly and it never redeveloped.

In the name of facelift few of the contractors done this.

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Basically putting an lipstick on a dirty pig and call it a day.

Urban planning in India needs a massive push. Things like waste management, water pipelines, electricity supplies, footpath, parks, sports area needs to be done.

For an country which build some of the most complex architectures today struggle to build even some simple things.
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This is what happens around the world. Countries cleanup the areas around places of important. Just add aesthetic lighting and this area will look 10 times better.

I visited old quarters in Shanghai with similar street as Chandani Chauk in Delhi - cramped and small shops. They did same things as pics above, cleaned up streets, pukka walking paths, denting-penting of the shops and put latest billboards with aesthetics lighting and Bingo a Modern Historical place in city visited by lakhs of people.

Half of the change is the people themselves, even if we clean up the things our locals make is look 100 times worse. They park vehicles anywhere they like, not in any order, spit everywhere, stand in middle of road and talk loudly on phones holding traffic, no lane discipline, littering everywhere.​
 
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londonparistokyo said:
Very important part of infrastructure is hygiene and sanitation. India is severely lacking in this department. Any word on this? Landfills? Anything? Cleaning toilets and washrooms? Water recycling? Anything? Sewage? Septic?
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Gobi has build a lot of public toilets everywhere + there seems to be small garbage trucks( size of a 4 wheel tempo ) to pickup the trash throughout the day.
Most of this "throughout the day" thrash is generated by your average handcart streetfood seller
 
ArjunMK1A said:
The Taj Mahal is being visited by Lakhs of People every year. The Tajmahal and its surrounding area looks clean with that parks and other monuments. The moment outside it is basically a shithole which is super ugly and it never redeveloped.

In the name of facelift few of the contractors done this.

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Basically putting an lipstick on a dirty pig and call it a day.

Urban planning in India needs a massive push. Things like waste management, water pipelines, electricity supplies, footpath, parks, sports area needs to be done.

For an country which build some of the most complex architectures today struggle to build even some simple things.
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these days redevelopment projects are no longer bits and pieces, there would a comprehensive project plan with local bodies having a say in it.

it's tempting to limit our opinions on info tidbits what ever social media gives traction to. bring in the rest of the information as well like scope, scale, cost, phases and projects taken up etc.

last year, when we were discussing ayodhya redevelopment. from the pics what looked like just a 30 ft road relaid in some gulli. it was costing more than 1.5 crore per km because of underground sewage and utility lines etc. this kind of info we can get only when we dig into tender data beyond superficial info a pic can provide.
 
shade2 said:
Gobi has build a lot of public toilets everywhere + there seems to be small garbage trucks( size of a 4 wheel tempo ) to pickup the trash throughout the day.
Most of this "throughout the day" thrash is generated by your average handcart streetfood seller
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Frankly much of the trash that I saw seemed to be there for quite a while, not freshly thrown. You can tell by the way parts of it has degraded. It was disgusting. This was in Uttarakhand btw. Public toilet sanitation was... well... it was pretty bad. Little-to-no maintenance and just extremely foul smelling
 
londonparistokyo said:
Frankly much of the trash that I saw seemed to be there for quite a while, not freshly thrown. You can tell by the way parts of it has degraded. It was disgusting. This was in Uttarakhand btw. Public toilet sanitation was... well... it was pretty bad. Little-to-no maintenance and just extremely foul smelling
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We are used to living in filth.
People want cleanliness but they have no means to dispose their garbage.
Walk on a street you won't find a single dustbin unless it's a area with eaterys. What are people supposed to do in this situation? They throw the garbage in any space that does not belong to any indi individual. Often under lamp post, drainage, building corners or building back side area.
 
I agree. I noticed the dearth of dustbins in many places. But I also noticed that people with dustbin access would rather throw their trash onto the street (this was at Gangotri of all places!). It's a dual-faced problem. The dustbins were also quite full and emptied maybe once per day. Government really needs to step up and that's my complaint. Infrastructure isn't just roads, it's sanitation too.
 
haldilal said:
Ya'll When Central is stopping development then what to say. This is pure Faltu pana by the Central.


View: https://twitter.com/haldilal/status/1850470932147556563


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Happening rn in Kolkata - Army and Kolkata Metro are fighting over a narrow strip of land.

The airport line got delayed coz the AAI wallahs were refusing to let the contractors set up cranes etc on a strip of land already acquired by the Metro Railway Kolkata claiming it would disrupt flight takeoffs (all their concerns vanished once the Ministry interfered directly).

You have no idea how narrow minded the babudom can be at times.
 
Suryavanshi said:
We are used to living in filth.
People want cleanliness but they have no means to dispose their garbage.
Walk on a street you won't find a single dustbin unless it's a area with eaterys. What are people supposed to do in this situation? They throw the garbage in any space that does not belong to any indi individual. Often under lamp post, drainage, building corners or building back side area.
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londonparistokyo said:
I agree. I noticed the dearth of dustbins in many places. But I also noticed that people with dustbin access would rather throw their trash onto the street (this was at Gangotri of all places!). It's a dual-faced problem. The dustbins were also quite full and emptied maybe once per day. Government really needs to step up and that's my complaint. Infrastructure isn't just roads, it's sanitation too.
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In my area there are dustbins but those seem to be for dry waste like say you need to throw a small 200ml juice carton or chips packet or something.

Ofc many of these dustbins go missing because of nashedis or chindi chori gangs because they seem to be made of steel
 
londonparistokyo said:
Frankly much of the trash that I saw seemed to be there for quite a while, not freshly thrown. You can tell by the way parts of it has degraded. It was disgusting. This was in Uttarakhand btw. Public toilet sanitation was... well... it was pretty bad. Little-to-no maintenance and just extremely foul smelling
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i live in almora (uttarakhand) sometime....many people hv no sense of hygiene nd cleanliness. most small naalas (water stream) in towns nd city is become dustbin, full of plastic waste etc. some years ago government install big steel boxes like dustbin in different areas. but people throw their waste not in dustbin but near it surrounding. that makes whole dustbin area full of waste. monkey, dogs nd cows also help to put out waste from these dustbin....but after some month those dustin disappear. i hv to travel 3-4 km on my scooty to dump my waste in a dustbin (even today)...later i go with my frnds outside of city for party. than i see 25-30 dustbin outside of town laying side of roads....so they remove dustbin, coz people were throwing waste not in dustbin but its surroundings. thats how people solve problems😝, now people starting to throw their waste in small water streams.
yes u r right, in uttarakhand public toilet is very dirty. i always try to escape to use them nd even if i enter those public toilet, i put my handkerchief around my face nd nose. but u always found people outside that public toilet, who collect 5 nd 10 rupee to use😝.
still villages nd less populated areas r clean in uttarakhand. nd some areas of cities well maintained by municipality. hill station r clean in my experience.

View: https://youtu.be/gdZN5ls0sRo?si=Ac61VstZnihpMhba

View: https://youtu.be/-KpIHjCttPc?si=9mX8lhJMezCmDCR5
 
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londonparistokyo said:
I agree. I noticed the dearth of dustbins in many places. But I also noticed that people with dustbin access would rather throw their trash onto the street (this was at Gangotri of all places!). It's a dual-faced problem. The dustbins were also quite full and emptied maybe once per day. Government really needs to step up and that's my complaint. Infrastructure isn't just roads, it's sanitation too.
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when i visited gangotri nd badrinath in my childhood near 2010 (luckily one year before famous uttarakhand natural disaster)...they both were super clean. 😭😭
 
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