Israel x Iran Conflict (80 Viewers)

[Azaad]

Interesting view of former PM.


View: https://x.com/amanpour/status/1933575231051890937?t=Ov97znKwq7MftSKTu_q7dA&s=19

Going by the disclosure in the video if there are no net positive gains to be had , why exactly did Israel prosecute this campaign ?

If the idea was to somehow inveigle the Americans into it then I don't see this happening for as Ehud Barak states without direct US involvement it's not possible for Israel to defang Iran of its N weapons program on its own & with these strikes I don't see Iran returning for such talks too , at least not soon.

In fact if anything it'd spur them on to give final touches to the N weapons program & test a N device or a few. What then has Israel gained from all this

Also raises the question why exactly did Trump give the go ahead to Satanyahu then ? In this respect the Biden administration was more circumspect . If Israel didn't attack Iranian N installations then , it was coz the Biden administration retrained them from doing so & it turns out the Biden administration was right .

This then is escalation for the sake of it. All Iran has to do is weather it out & not escalate by bombing US bases or that of the Gulf Sheikhdoms & there's no excuse for the US to get involved. Eventually a stalemate arises.

Not a conspiracy theorist but earlier rumours emanating from Israel seem true that Satanyahu was essentially prolonging the conflict & opening up new fronts to save his government & himself from prosecution.

 

[Nicky]

I have not been commenting much on the ongoing between Iran and Israel. It is disappointing from some of the members here to see them not supporting Israel. They have helped us in time of need during Kargil war. Just because they belong to another Abrahamic religion and some extremist Jews having stupid views on us, some people think they are not worth supporting. You cannot expect 100% of the people having the same view. All it matters is whether the state represented by people are in favor of us or not. So cut the crap support Israel. I am not asking you to be a cheer leader on social media. All I am asking is get your priorities right with respect to our national interests.

Even Iranians would like their Mullah regime to be decimated to usher in a new dawn for their country. Their Mullah regime is not our friend. They are vying for global Islamic leadership by targeting Israel. And they think they can snatch that title from Gulf Arabs if they nuke Israel. This war will have repercussions for India and it is not something we can ignore. At this point, I can't even believe Iranian regime was all bark and no bite. Israelis are having air superiority right from the first day. And this is a country which has to cross 2 other countries to bomb Iran. Imagine the pilot fatigue after such a long journey sitting in a enclosed cockpit not moving an inch. Their precision strikes targeting their top leadership is something we cannot ignore.

We better keep this in mind and go for the decapitating strike when it comes to Porkistan as well. It should be swift and fast. The shock and awe should shock Porkistanis. Consider Porkistan getting any stealth fighter as a red line and prepare for it today for preemptive strikes. I would love to hear some analysis from @Azaad about this war.

It's simply a matter of what's best for us.

An Iran under a US puppet is not of benefit for us.

 

[Ajatshatru]

 

[Tsunami]

For drones.

For loitering munitions and PGMs and various type of slow and low flying drones.

 

[neelaslayer]

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Make 19 accounts of each airbase and terror centers destroyed like this.
On may 7 all that jet shot down is cope from pakistan.

View: https://x.com/OsintTV/status/1931278123737444655?t=vAXdPND-eUNSshI-TZfu1A&s=19

 

[Nicky]

Going by the disclosure in the video if there are no net positive gains to be had , why exactly did Israel prosecute this campaign ?

If the idea was to somehow inveigle the Americans into it then I don't see this happening for as Ehud Barak states without direct US involvement it's not possible for Israel to defang Iran of its N weapons program on its own & with these strikes I don't see Iran returning for such talks too , at least not soon.

In fact if anything it'd spur them on to give final touches to the N weapons program & test a N device or a few. What then has Israel gained from all this

Also raises the question why exactly did Trump give the go ahead to Satanyahu then ? In this respect the Biden administration was more circumspect . If Israel didn't attack Iranian N installations then , it was coz the Biden administration retrained them from doing so & it turns out the Biden administration was right .

This then is escalation for the sake of it. All Iran has to do is weather it out & not escalate by bombing US bases or that of the Gulf Sheikhdoms & there's no excuse for the US to get involved. Eventually a stalemate arises.

Not a conspiracy theorist but earlier rumours emanating from Israel seem true that Satanyahu was essentially prolonging the conflict & opening up new fronts to save his government & himself from prosecution.

Hard to put everything happening down to one simple reason.

There are multiple players and overlapping and conflicting interests.

Israel, obviously wants Iran nuclear capabilities wiped out. They probably thought US would jump in use their B2 to hit facilities deep in mountains that Israel can't reach.

There are certainly players in the US that will push for it to intervene more directly.

Russia and Chini want Iran to survive as they want their anti-west axis to grow.

I believe for us Iran falling completely will not be beneficial. Its better if both sides are weakened but status quo remains.

 

[shade2]

I have not been commenting much on the ongoing between Iran and Israel. It is disappointing from some of the members here to see them not supporting Israel. They have helped us in time of need during Kargil war. Just because they belong to another Abrahamic religion and some extremist Jews having stupid views on us, some people think they are not worth supporting. You cannot expect 100% of the people having the same view. All it matters is whether the state represented by people are in favor of us or not. So cut the crap support Israel. I am not asking you to be a cheer leader on social media. All I am asking is get your priorities right with respect to our national interests.

Even Iranians would like their Mullah regime to be decimated to usher in a new dawn for their country. Their Mullah regime is not our friend. They are vying for global Islamic leadership by targeting Israel. And they think they can snatch that title from Gulf Arabs if they nuke Israel. This war will have repercussions for India and it is not something we can ignore. At this point, I can't even believe Iranian regime was all bark and no bite. Israelis are having air superiority right from the first day. And this is a country which has to cross 2 other countries to bomb Iran. Imagine the pilot fatigue after such a long journey sitting in a enclosed cockpit not moving an inch. Their precision strikes targeting their top leadership is something we cannot ignore.

We better keep this in mind and go for the decapitating strike when it comes to Porkistan as well. It should be swift and fast. The shock and awe should shock Porkistanis. Consider Porkistan getting any stealth fighter as a red line and prepare for it today for preemptive strikes. I would love to hear some analysis from @Azaad about this war.

Yahood Govt bends over backwards for our sentiments including some PR team choots posting a butchered map or some Taklu leftoid kike calling the Kashmir Pandit ethnic cleansing and genocide as "propaganda".

Irani Mulla, the top one, he shamelessly barks about MUSLIM KHATRE ME HAI IN INDIA, talks about "oppression" in Kashmir etc, they also try to fuck us over Chabahar and other such investment/development deals just because Ching is paying them more.

It's simply a matter of what's best for us.

An Iran under a US puppet is not of benefit for us.

They are civilizationally such a tribe that US puppethood wouldn't last for long.

The last ((( shah ))) was a US puppet who deposed his father who was muscular, independent and well loved by the Irani people.

The Irani people, fed up of the shameless American Shah then installed these Mullahs and now they want to mullahs gone.

If the Greens weren't able to fully enslave them and turn them into "Arabs" or "Turks" I doubt any Amerishart can control them.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Make 19 accounts of each airbase and terror centers destroyed like this.
On may 7 all that jet shot down is cope from pakistan.

View: https://x.com/OsintTV/status/1931278123737444655?t=vAXdPND-eUNSshI-TZfu1A&s=19

 

[Azaad]

It's simply a matter of what's best for us.

An Iran under a US puppet is not of benefit for us.

A nuclear armed Iran is much worse for us. They're getting involved in every Muslim issue around the world including Kashmir & minority rights in India , trying to take the leadership position when they are in the shape they're in & you think with N weapons they're going to temper their position ?

They'd become a much more rabid version of what they're today. Long term US involvement will be necessary. More importantly it's a coalition which'd do the job which means not only the involvement of the Gulf Sheikhdoms but regional Arab powers like Egypt.

Easier said than done. After all the Arabs have been more European in this regard than the Europeans themselves. They buy weapons from the US & a few of them give the US basing rights to protect themselves from the Iranians by availing of the US Security Umbrella , while splurging their wealth on inessentials. At least the Europeans used the financial windfall thus accrued productively.

In any case this present episode has only served to escalate tensions enormously without being conclusive in any way . That in turn sets the stage for something much more escalatory in the future.

 

[Nicky]

They are civilizationally such a tribe that US puppethood wouldn't last for long.

The last ((( shah ))) was a US puppet who deposed his father who was muscular, independent and well loved by the Irani people.

The Irani people, fed up of the shameless American Shah then installed these Mullahs and now they want to mullahs gone.

If the Greens weren't able to fully enslave them and turn them into "Arabs" or "Turks" I doubt any Amerishart can control them.

The current Iranian regime is not against us. I don't care how they oppress their people.

As long as Iran doesn't turn into US puppet and reduce an oil source for us, I don't care.

 

[Muzh]

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That is hilarious. That is the best piece of trolling I have seen in quite some time

 

[Doreamon]

But does USA still have a option now to not intervene in the conflict ? The talks might not happen . Talks or no talks Iran with in span of months or a year ll detonate a bomb in their desert . In future scenario this threatens entire middle east and USA .

 

[Nicky]

A nuclear armed Iran is much worse for us. They're getting involved in every Muslim issue around the world including Kashmir & minority rights in India , trying to take the leadership position when they are in the shape they're in & you think with N weapons they're going to temper their position ?

They'd become a much more rabid version of what they're today. Long term US involvement will be necessary. More importantly it's a coalition which'd do the job which means not only the involvement of the Gulf Sheikhdoms but regional Arab powers like Egypt.

Easier said than done. After all the Arabs have been more European in this regard than the Europeans themselves. They buy weapons from the US & a few of them give the US basing rights to protect themselves from the Iranians by availing of the US Security Umbrella , while splurging their wealth on inessentials. At least the Europeans used the financial windfall thus accrued productively.

In any case this present episode has only served to escalate tensions enormously without being conclusive in any way . That in turn sets the stage for something much more escalatory in the future.

That's why I said, best outcome for us is weakened Iran but not under US control. As seen recently, US will leverage pressure points against us.

The status quo works for us for the most part.

Israeli leaders agree that they themselves aren't powerful enough to end Iran's nuke regime. They need US involvement.

We need to wait and watch.

I don't care about Israel over our interests. A decisive victory for either side is not beneficial to us.

This conflict is already hurting us.

Israel-Iran conflict to impact oil supply to India, increase export costs by 40-50%

Israel's attack on Iran raises oil prices, posing risks to India's economy with potential supply disruptions and increased export costs.

www.thehindu.com

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

It does beg the question though, does US/China have the capacity to do to Indian nuclear infrastructure what Israel did to Iran's?

They surely can cause some harm. But unlike these smallers states we have a larger depth and more distributed targets. So, It will not be easier.
Since we have validated our Air Defence Network, ITs highly unlikely any decapitation strikes against us will be any easier.

 

[Tsunami]

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Are photoshopped hai yar kitni bar same SS daloge...

 

[Ajatshatru]

That is hilarious. That is the best piece of trolling I have seen in quite some time

Khikhikhikhi

 

[Knowitall]

As i mentioned previously there have been several disruptions leading to capability degradation of Iranian missile forces.

Imagine Pakistan eliminating India’s entire war cabinet in a single day. The CDS the army chief NSA head and so on. Now imagine our response to that.

Yet Iran has barely launched 200-300 ballistic missiles as without air superiority their launchers are sitting ducks despite supreme leader wanting a 1000 fired.


View: https://x.com/israelradar_com/status/1933804067895066944?s=46


View: https://x.com/israelradar_com/status/1933814550601580959?s=46

 

[liberalredditor]

Are photoshopped hai yar kitni bar same SS daloge...

piejaan ki maze lene me kya dikkat hai??

 

[neelaslayer]

Starlink is dangerous for india a palanatir cia tool.


View: https://x.com/mitrapredator/status/1933787534376775692?t=MgY10qgAA0_Ej7zMO2ocHQ&s=19

 

[Azaad]

That's why I said, best outcome for us is weakened Iran but not under US control. As seen recently, US will leverage pressure points against us.

The status quo works for us for the most part.

Israeli leaders agree that they themselves aren't powerful enough to end Iran's nuke regime. They need US involvement.

We need to wait and watch.

I don't care about Israel over our interests. A decisive victory for either side is not beneficial to us.

What US control are you talking about ? At least read up more in this regard. When the mullahs seized power in the 1979 revolution this didn't come thru only due to the Mullahs chanelling people's dissatisfaction & mass discontent.

There were various other parties involved in the revolution as well most notably the Tudeh party of Iranian communists.

In order to avenge their humiliation courtesy the hostage crisis in Tehran , the US & the Gulf Sheikhdoms egged on Saddam Hussain to launch a war on Iran which he duly complied with.

Result - the Iranians who had divided loyalties before rallied behind the mullahs who took the war to Iraq & slaughtered all opposition at home consolidating power .

The country most aware of this is the US. And in order to do what you're suggesting requires boots on the ground. Right now there's no opposition worth the name in Iran where the mullahs through their own networks have monopolised the economy , the war fighting machinery & internal security .

The rest of the population may well be against the mullahs but as long as they aren't organized & lack fire power it amounts to zilch . Hence a revolution is totally ruled out for the present .